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    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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Looks like the genuine thing, except i can't see Barclays having signed it. If they haven't, then its improperly executed and only a court can enforce it (they are likely to if everything else is OK).

 

Never pre-empt what a court may do, if that were the case why don't they enforce more often?

 

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Blair Oliver & Scott, £2500 written off December 2006 Default removed January 2007:D

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Monument, didn't sign the agreement

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Lloyds TSB didn't sign the agreement!

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Citicards, didn't sign the agreement

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Hi

 

Sorry to be a pain but it is quite important did you send the agreement back or did you take it into your bank and discuss it face to face before signing. It is just that i cannot see any cancellation details but i need to know whether it was cancelable or a distance contract to know what to look for.

 

Peter

Hi Davey 77

Sorry for the delay, i cannot find any major problems i am afraid, their are one or two errors in the documents form and content but nothing that i can see that would make the agreement unenforceable.

 

Sorry

 

Peter

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Thanks Peterbard. That's ok. Not a great surprise. My suspicions have been confirmed.

Thank you for looking at it for me though - cheers, D

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I wouldn't have thought they could enforce that. It's impossible to see if the prescribed terms are there and any copy they provide must be legible anyway. That isn't.

 

Thanks Ian. I agree :D

 

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Just received a court claim from CL finance in relation to my "debt" thread is found here,

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt/82935-help-cl-finance-court.html#post741271

 

I would appreciate it if somebody could help me.

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I have received a response to my letter to the SLC regarding suspected fraud regarding my CCA.

It is in full in Emma vs Student Loans Company, if anyone to take a look.

Nationwide-A&L-Halifax 1-Student Loans Company-NatWest-Virgin Media-Link-Capital One ALL WON!

Thames Credit -statute barred sent 13/11/08

BCW- prove debt letter- 14/08/08

Apex- CCA 14/08/08

Redcats UK- SAR 14/04/09

Call Serve- CCA 14/08/08

Littlewoods- no CCA letter 03/09/08- Lowells now

Wescot- CCA 19/9/08

Capital One/Debitas- now with Lowells

 

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Hi Peter, I pm'd you, what do you thinnk?

sorry didnt spot the 'brain reboot'

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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Had a bit of fun with MBNA/A&L this morning. They sent me a letter saying if I didn't make payment within 7 days they'd commence legal proceedings. I phoned them and listed all of their breaqches:

 

Constant harassment even though account in dispute.

No response to credit agreement request, they have now committed a criminal offence.

Adding interest and charges whilst account in dispute.

Delay in providing statements leading to a complaint to the ICO.

 

The staff member had to clue re: any of this and the implications of it leading to him asking a million questions. The stating he'd have to pass it to a manager as this was all beyond him.

 

I said to feel free to do this and to tell the manager to go ahead and file in court because I'd like to see what a judge made of a counterclaim for default on Section 85. Well, this threw him completely.

 

He apologised for the letter they sent and said they'd be back in touch soon!

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Had a bit of fun with MBNA/A&L this morning. They sent me a letter saying if I didn't make payment within 7 days they'd commence legal proceedings. I phoned them and listed all of their breaqches:

 

Constant harassment even though account in dispute.

No response to credit agreement request, they have now committed a criminal offence.

Adding interest and charges whilst account in dispute.

Delay in providing statements leading to a complaint to the ICO.

 

The staff member had to clue re: any of this and the implications of it leading to him asking a million questions. The stating he'd have to pass it to a manager as this was all beyond him.

 

I said to feel free to do this and to tell the manager to go ahead and file in court because I'd like to see what a judge made of a counterclaim for default on Section 85. Well, this threw him completely.

 

He apologised for the letter they sent and said they'd be back in touch soon!

 

lol

 

Nice one, I had a good old chat with a cap one member of staff yesterday and blew his head a bit. You sort of feel sorry for them (NOT!!!!!).

 

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Ian - sounds an exact replica of my situation, and of my conversation with them yesterday. (My letter was signed by Dee Dillistone - Head of Pre-Litigation, strange because on Thursday's letter she was Head of Customer Service).Maybe it was the same guy we both spoke to - he must be thinking stacking supermarket shelves on the night shift is looking like a good option!

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Nice one, I had a good old chat with a cap one member of staff yesterday and blew his head a bit. You sort of feel sorry for them (NOT!!!!!).

 

Tanz

 

How come you all get the ones you can talk to? I seem to always get the rude agressive young blokes who tell me I'm wrong - that's it, no explanation, no legislation, no courtesy and no clue! If I had a pound for every time I have been told they have not breached any harrassment legislation I would be very rich indeed!

 

I think I need to head for the Bah Humbug thread...

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Chester Towers and Nottingham Hall are really in a dither about Section 85. I wonder how many claims they have now. I am so glad I was the first person to upset their little apple carts with this gem. I can't wait to get to court for my hearing. This time I am not settleing out of court, nothing to lose and a lot to gain because being mean I am claiming CI on all three accounts as well the Section 85 interest.

 

MBNA have tried to say I am wrong, but they are yet to come up with the section of the Act which says we are wrong. Generic mailers no longer cut it. No executed agreement, where do they go from here?

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I am assuming late May for mine, but I have been asked to plead section 85 on the 9 May for another CAGger. The Judge specifically asked me to plead her case when the directions was held.

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Chester Towers and Nottingham Hall are really in a dither about Section 85. I wonder how many claims they have now. I am so glad I was the first person to upset their little apple carts with this gem. I can't wait to get to court for my hearing. This time I am not settleing out of court, nothing to lose and a lot to gain because being mean I am claiming CI on all three accounts as well the Section 85 interest.

 

MBNA have tried to say I am wrong, but they are yet to come up with the section of the Act which says we are wrong. Generic mailers no longer cut it. No executed agreement, where do they go from here?

 

BA, by claiming CI, what is the balance of your claims?

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BA - this hearing sure will be interesting!!!

 

Ian - I bet you can't wait for their next letter!!! :D Nice for us to wrap them in circles isn't it? you "spot of bother" today made me laugh!!

 

We have a few interesting hearings coming up in the near future :)

 

BA your getting too good when Judges ask you to plead a claimants case do I detect a legal career in the making :rolleyes:

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I told a caller from Capital One today that the constant calls were harrassment. She said I was talking gibberish. When I told her I was recording the call and wanted a note of her name, rather surprisingly she refused to give it!

 

Another call added to my 13 page log!

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Have you seen the news about the woman who's taking Halifax to court for harassment?

 

Hi Ladybird.

 

No, I have not seen this....

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Very nice we are going to have to keep an eye on that case :)

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Had a bit of fun with MBNA/A&L this morning. They sent me a letter saying if I didn't make payment within 7 days they'd commence legal proceedings. I phoned them and listed all of their breaqches:

 

Constant harassment even though account in dispute.

No response to credit agreement request, they have now committed a criminal offence.

Adding interest and charges whilst account in dispute.

Delay in providing statements leading to a complaint to the ICO.

 

The staff member had to clue re: any of this and the implications of it leading to him asking a million questions. The stating he'd have to pass it to a manager as this was all beyond him.

 

I said to feel free to do this and to tell the manager to go ahead and file in court because I'd like to see what a judge made of a counterclaim for default on Section 85. Well, this threw him completely.

 

He apologised for the letter they sent and said they'd be back in touch soon!

 

I am in a similar position!!!

However, my position seems to be a stand off...MBNA are ignoring me.

However, I have reported them TS.

 

I wonder if they will be in touch with you soon?

 

AC

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I am in a similar position!!!

However, my position seems to be a stand off...MBNA are ignoring me.

However, I have reported them TS.

 

I wonder if they will be in touch soon?

 

AC

 

TS probably won't - they don't do anything!

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