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    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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no mine too

 

I suspect a nice little DCA sent one of those demands scanned up.

 

usual MO,

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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All seems dwp legit. Even used saynoto0870 to find landline numb. Called and Defo Gov dept.

 

Ignore or follow up for the equivalent of a dwp CCA?

 

Mistaken identity is my thought.

Really ....

 

Your soon find out when you apply for any state benefits,including state retirement pension and they start deducting the money you owe them from your week payments !

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Please use the quote system, So everyone will know what your referring too, thank you ...

 

 

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Got this the other day.

I requested my employment details for 1993 from the NI archives.

The alleged date that this crisis loan was taken out was 23rd April 1993. I was pretty sure I was in employment on that date and I'm assuming if that's the case you cannot apply for a crisis loan?

Is this letter definitive enough?

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that's 1993 docs

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Got this the other day.

I requested my employment details for 1993 from the NI archives.

The alleged date that this crisis loan was taken out was 23rd April 1993. I was pretty sure I was in employment on that date and I'm assuming if that's the case you cannot apply for a crisis loan?

Is this letter definitive enough?

 

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think that proves that you were in employment on that specific date. :/

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Welcome akinika! Feisty little buggers formerly Iqor I believe?

 

They first called Friday eve & a tart 'only in writing' soon got rid of him but then a second call came this morning!

 

Me: "You called me last night and I said only in writing"

Them: "We've sent you a letter, you may not have received it yet"?

Me: "So why are you calling after I said only in writing"? "This is now the second call, times and dates are being logged, if you call again I will raise a complaint of harassment"!

Them: "You can't do that Sir"

Me: "Oh, can't I"? "Only in writing please, do you understand"?

Them: "And when you receive the letter, you will act on it then"?

Me: "No". CLICK

 

I know I should have just hung up after 'only in writing' but I love to hear them squirm and hang themselves.

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Got this the other day.

I requested my employment details for 1993 from the NI archives.

The alleged date that this crisis loan was taken out was 23rd April 1993. I was pretty sure I was in employment on that date and I'm assuming if that's the case you cannot apply for a crisis loan?

Is this letter definitive enough?

 

Sorry, typo in earlier post. 1993 is correct.

 

Welcome akinika! Feisty little buggers formerly Iqor I believe?

 

They first called Friday eve & a tart 'only in writing' soon got rid of him but then a second call came this morning!

 

Me: "You called me last night and I said only in writing"

Them: "We've sent you a letter, you may not have received it yet"?

Me: "So why are you calling after I said only in writing"? "This is now the second call, times and dates are being logged, if you call again I will raise a complaint of harassment"!

Them: "You can't do that Sir"

Me: "Oh, can't I"? "Only in writing please, do you understand"?

Them: "And when you receive the letter, you will act on it then"?

Me: "No". CLICK

 

I know I should have just hung up after 'only in writing' but I love to hear them squirm and hang themselves.

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The document you posted in #29

 

Doesn't prove anything really

 

And #33 !

Please use the quote system, So everyone will know what your referring too, thank you ...

 

 

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The document you posted in #29

 

Doesn't prove anything really

 

And #33 ?????

 

Hmmm 45002, I was labouring under the false understanding that if I could prove I was working on the date of this crazy alleged debt I could prove it was nothing to do with me.

I have since found out that at the time a 'crisis loan' could be obtained even if you were in work.

 

Not sure what you're getting at with the attachment in post #33? That the letter I got today from akinika?

 

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whichever way it turns out DO NOT EVER PAY A DCA FOR A GOV'T DEBT

 

they DO NOT and WILL NEVER OWNTHE DEBT.

 

if you owe it

the only thing that can happen is 'eventually' they take a small regular payment out of any future benefits.

 

its up to you really what you do.

 

if you do find that you did have the loan

and there is a balance outstanding

 

theres nothing to stop you paying them sooner so's benefits aren't dipped into in later life.

 

don't forget this will Never be a priority debt anyhow

 

so minimal payments once you start.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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whichever way it turns out DO NOT EVER PAY A DCA FOR A GOV'T DEBT

 

they DO NOT and WILL NEVER OWN THE DEBT.

 

dx

 

Thanks dx,

 

What tactic should I employ to remove akinika from the equation? They're defo not getting a penny!

 

TIA

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silence

 

do nothing they'll give up

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ring or write and complain

Get a free DWP sar running

Its on their website

Make then prove their data

Ask your employer to stall or ignore if they can

As its in dispute

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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This also happened to me as well,

DWP sent attachment to my employer for £235.00,

It was for a loan from 2001.

Never had any paperwork - my employer had to take deductions,

due to timescales paid in full,

wrote to the DWP as to date they have never replied

and now give up in getting my money back bunch of crooks the DWP

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This also happened to me as well, DWP sent attachment to my employer for £235.00, It was for a loan from 2001. Never had any paperwork my employer had to take deductions, due to timescales paid in full, wrote to the DWP as to date they have never replied and now give up in getting my money back bunch of crooks the DWP

 

So make the Data Protection Subject Access Request which is free with DWP and ask for written proof of the particular debt. If they can't provide it, make a formal request for a refund to DWP head office and if no joy get your local MP involved.

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'Prove it' letter (CC company payroll dept) plus SAR to DWP all ready to be sent off Monday morning.

 

Any suggestions for wording to send to payroll (I can easily email) to make sure it's stalled until resolved?

 

TIA

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Kinda broke the golden rule by giving them a call,

(In my defence they're not a DCA) just to make sure they got the letter and what they're going to do about it really.

 

Actually got through to a really helpful bloke who, after I explained the supposed reasons for said alleged Social Fund loan, (to recap, 1993, I would have been 22, single, living in a bedsit and it was for bunk-beds) he agreed that something didn't seem right.

 

We came to an arrangement that involves him forward dating to October and him sending me a bank giro bill for £44. This will put a stop on the AOE order and give them time to investigate.

 

If nothing else it's stalled for a couple of months and I'll wait and see what, if any proof DWP will provide.

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if you mean rang the DWP

no harm in that at all

 

 

sounds like you might be getting it sorted.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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if you mean rang the DWP

no harm in that at all

dx

 

Thanks DX.

 

 

I kinda think I'm delaying the inevitable though.

 

 

If they've done what they've done so far with no evidence,

(and how can there be? Being 1993 they would have destroyed records by now)

 

 

I think they will just steamroller this farce through eventually even when they can't find anything :mad2:

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so what is the bill for £44 they are sending?

 

Should they steamroller through and enforce this via a DEO then refer to post #43

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so does it prove their claim?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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