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    • I have read through a number of similar threads, but one thing i'm not sure how to proceed about is that I live abroad in the middle east and have done for several years. The claim letter was sent to my parents address and I really don't want them to be harassed about this. I am sure I sent the original creditor a registered letter with my change of address but can't find this currently. I am not in a position to pay this, and tend to come back to the UK to see family at most once a year (less since Covid), so not particular bothered about my financial score...more concerned about harassment of my parents. I have not registered on the gov gateway or anything like that.  Details below (as best as i can), and thank you for taking the time to look into it. Also redacted claim form attached: Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre (Northampton) If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS) Name of the Claimant ? PRA Group (UK) Limited   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 23/5/24   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM Tues, 11/6/24 (19 days)  Thurs, 25/6/24 (33 days)   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The Claimant claims the sum of £7926 for an outstanding debt owed. On 20/4/18 the Defendent entered into an agreement with Lloyds Bank for a Credit Card under reference [16 numbers]. On 10/5/22 the Defendant defaulted on the agreement with an outstanding balance of £7296. On 28/11/23 the debt of £7296 was assigned to PRA Group (UK) Limited, who itself assigned the debt to PRA Group UK Portfolios Ltd on 30/12/23. Notices of assignment were sent to the Defendant in accordance with S136 Law of Property Act 1925. The Claimant has instructed PRA Group (UK) to act on its behalf and the CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. The sum of £7925   What is the total value of the claim? £8481 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Yes   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? I believe I sent a letter by registered mail of a change in address to abroad in 2021. Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Debt purchaser   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not personally - probably sent to my parents   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not personally - probably sent to my parents   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not personally - probably sent to my parents Why did you cease payments? Unable to afford, living abroad   What was the date of your last payment? Unsure (probably 2021)   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No     Claim form 23-5-24.pdf
    • While we wait for someone to explain how farage is any better than sunak  .. if not worse   One of many likely upcoming belly laughs   Reform chairman Richard Tice has accused the Tories of (reform like) “dirty tricks” after one of his party’s candidates withdrew his papers to stand at the last minute and endorsed former cabinet minister Sir Gavin Williamson. In a dramatic final 24 hours before nominations closed there had been fevered speculation that as many as six Tory MPs and other candidates could defect to Reform after Nigel Farage decided to stand in Clacton and become leader. But instead no Tories switched and Tom Wellings, the Reform candidate for the new seat of Stone, Great Wryly and Penkridge in Staffordshire, quit and put out a statement endorsing Sir Gavin.   Who does he think he is an Anderson, a Carswell !!! was heard at the reform HQ pub ... as Candidate brushed aside by Farage in clacton to run as an independent    Tice accuses Tories of ‘dirty tricks’ to persuade Reform candidates to stand down WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Exclusive: A furious row has broken out after a Reform candidate’s last minute defection to the Tories   :ROFL  
    • See what you think of the attached. I have to do some proofreading of an English grammar book for an Italian publisher this weekend - for money! - so I'm afraid corrections and suggestions will come in dribs & drabs.  I've totally knackered the layout, the numbering and the order of your Exhibits but there will be several versions done so don't worry about that ATM. Your arguments are superb. What is less superb is the way you jump from one to the other and back again, so I haven't changed your words, but I have moved the paragraphs around and given each section a heading. New bits are shown in red. Crossed out crossed out in black is something you've quoted from the government Code of Practice, but that has since been withdrawn so unfortunately that argument has to go. Your paras 7 & 8 don't harm your case but to me are waffle and can go.  Keeping the arguments clear & concise will always impress a judge. IMPORTANT - did you ever send Simple Simon a CPR request?   Defendant's WS - version 2.pdf
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If you take a look at some of the comparison sites you can get a listing of business accounts that offer free banking (ie; no monthly charges) and also no transaction fees.

 

I've just done a quick look myself, and there actually seems to be quite a few.

 

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So, I see nothing very much happened today. We'll get judgement maybe by october, and appeals will start in november, maybe... apart from that :shrug:

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No kidding.

 

The stay was put in place due to lack of evidence.

 

Because the Banks defended the claim the oft made.

 

However We Should have reason to belive these charges are unlawful because of this report.

 

There is more evidence to consider withint the case.

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"Hope"

 

Thats what this case is based on it would seem.

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Hi everyone and Bookworm hope you are all well?.Looks like the banks are being kind to us all now by giving us extra on our overdraft facility and calling it a Reserve, is this for our benefit or is it to make them look good to the court :D:D:D:rolleyes:...

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Sorry yourbank but havn't been on for a while apart from that I only really post on this thread cannot understand all the gobligook on other threads so I am sorry to have been a bit of a bore to you...:smile::smile::lol:;-) obviously you work for a bank?

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I am on so many forums, that every time I see the words, "Barclays [problem]", "Barclays, has anyone got this before", I am screaaming ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Yes a billion times. Sorry if the post came across like that, not meant as was written:o

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FSA Waiver on Bank Charges:http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/dir_quart_0709.pdf

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JC, I said I have seen the thread about the Barclays Reserve about a billion times, on here, MSE, PC, etc,etc, with the above named titles. Sometimes, I comment on them and mostly I don't.

Post 1127 was a throwaway comment.

JC, I seem to know less and less and less here, somedays. Perspective is everything, one person views a charge as a con, another as a [problem], and another as a penalty for their mistake. I can understand you view and other contrary views.

For me, I don't get charges so I don't view them as something that I need to think about at this moment.

When I do have a view I am sure I will post somewhere on the tinterweb. I am sure I may have had a view in the past as Nattie on here.

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What quite shocks/surprises me to all this is so 'low key'. This is our cash they are holding on to and yet it seems so few people 'rock the boat'. HSBC in my case merrilly charge me £150 a month as just 'procedure' and I look in dismay at their blaise attitude to it all. Do the financial institutions know something we don't I wonder?

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No, but they can still charge until the conclusion of the OFT test case. The historical T&C's decision is likely in September and that decision will be interesting to see.

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Hi Guys,

 

I can not find anything on the OFT report regarding its investigation into bank charges. I understood that the OFT would hand over its preliminary report to the judge in a letter by the end of July. It is now the 5th August, has there been any developments?

 

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JC, I said I have seen the thread about the Barclays Reserve about a billion times, on here, MSE, PC, etc,etc, with the above named titles. Sometimes, I comment on them and mostly I don't.

Post 1127 was a throwaway comment.

JC, I seem to know less and less and less here, somedays. Perspective is everything, one person views a charge as a con, another as a [problem], and another as a penalty for their mistake. I can understand you view and other contrary views.

For me, I don't get charges so I don't view them as something that I need to think about at this moment.

When I do have a view I am sure I will post somewhere on the tinterweb. I am sure I may have had a view in the past as Nattie on here.

 

Hi, even tho you clearly dont want to I'm agoing to ask anyway - what is this Barclays reserve all about?!

 

I haven't come on here for ages now, as it just seems like we're getting nowhere and someone mentioned something above about all we have left is hope - well I dont have that any more.... :-(

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Hi Guys,

 

Could someone please tell me where I can find the new criteria for claiming hardship, which I understand has been revised and clarified recently by the FSA. Would there be a hardship claim for someone who has been written off work sick for 12 months, although working now, who has many debts building up, has accrued a number of CCJ's and is one step away from a repossession order being made on his home.

 

Thanks.

 

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Hi Guys,

 

Could someone please tell me where I can find the new criteria for claiming hardship, which I understand has been revised and clarified recently by the FSA. Would there be a hardship claim for someone who has been written off work sick for 12 months, although working now, who has many debts building up, has accrued a number of CCJ's and is one step away from a repossession order being made on his home.

 

Thanks.

 

TheyrCriminals

 

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regulated/Notify/Waiver/pdf/disp_monthly.pdf

Annex 2 might be of interest to you.

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You know all this makes one wonder. I still believe that the financial institutions are in cahoots with the OFT/FSA. One needs to consider where their 'top brass' are employed from to consider that comment. Can you imagine their 'interviews' and the OFT/FSA saying, 'sorry you are from 'X' bank etc. and cannot be employed? Rather the entire opposite I would dare to say.

Anyhow, what I don't inderstand is that if you have a 'hardship' case then you might well be considered for a review and probably receive a full refund. How can this be I ask because if the FI's like erm, 'win' would those 'hardship' case people have to repay it all back? If they did not then that would obviously be considered grossly unfair. Personally I consider being owed well in excess of £4k and would not look on too happy if that a 'selected' few shall we say, got away with it? I would add that whilst I consider myself a hardship case I'd simply not get a look in purely because I'm fully employed and paid a reasonable salary. However I wonder what will happen as I'm 'verging' on redundancy within the next few weeks/months.

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You know all this makes one wonder. I still believe that the financial institutions are in cahoots with the OFT/FSA. There is no evidence to support this view. One needs to consider where their 'top brass' are employed from to consider that comment. Can you imagine their 'interviews' and the OFT/FSA saying, 'sorry you are from 'X' bank etc. and cannot be employed? Rather the entire opposite I would dare to say.Is that a bad thing if someone has had banking/financial employment?

Anyhow, what I don't inderstand is that if you have a 'hardship' case then you might well be considered for a review and probably receive a full refund. How can this be I ask because if the FI's like erm, 'win' would those 'hardship' case people have to repay it all back?No they would not. If they did not then that would obviously be considered grossly unfair.Those who have had GOGW refunds running into the millions of pounds would not have to give that back because you are right, it would be grossly unfair. Personally I consider being owed well in excess of £4k and would not look on too happy if that a 'selected' few shall we say, got away with it?Got away with what? Not sure I understand that bit. I would add that whilst I consider myself a hardship case I'd simply not get a look in purely because I'm fully employed and paid a reasonable salary. However I wonder what will happen as I'm 'verging' on redundancy within the next few weeks/months.If you do get made redundant then ask your bank to consider you for hardship as that would be a change of circumstances under the waiver rules, Annex 2 for reference.

Michael

 

Michael, a lot of people think that there is a conspiracy because the OFT test case meant the FOS Waiver(pressure is mounting on them because of the lack of filtering of genuine hardship cases). The problem prior to the test case was that judges could go either way which solved nothing for consumers.

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