Hello Friends, I am a Leeds city resident and I got three parking tickets in a span of two weeks. There are multiple issues with these PCNs as I spotted some discrepancies in councils guidance on the time limits. Few years back Leeds city council has introduced a mobile based parking solution by partnering with a company called parkmobile. Being a daily commuter I really love the convenience of the app though it charges 25P convenience fee for each transaction. The way the app works is as below: Step 1: Drive to the intented parking space and open the app. Step2: App presents the user a map with the exact location of your car by using mobile’s gps location. The map also shows the parking machine Ids on the map corresponding to the street. The same ID is also displayed on the parking machine with big, bright and bold letters so that any one can see it from far distance as well. Step 3: User selects the parking machine ID and click on pay now button Step 4: App asks user to re confirm the Vehicle registration Step 5: Counter starts The beauty of the app is that it also incorporates any timing restrictions that may have been imposed on that street parking machine (for eg : Maximum Parking Duration 2 hours), Price list for each of the hours (for eg 0-2 hrs – 2£). My case: Now coming to my case, I drive a fully electric car and Leeds City council incentivise all EV drivers with a free parking permit(to be displayed on windscreen) which enable EV drivers to park for free on any of the city’s street parking spaces. As I am so used to the parking app since its launch I always use it to check the parking restrictions and payments etc. On this occasion I parked on a street named as ‘Edward Street’ which has 2 hour maximum parking rule according to council and as per the front facia of the parking machine. But to the contrary on parkmobile app it was tagged as full day parking. Following the guidance from the parkmobile app I simply parked on the street came back in the evening only to find a PCN attached to Windscreen. Later in the week I started parking in a different street and it has also got similar issue and ended up getting another PCN. . Finally I ended up in getting 3 PCNs I was so desperate to speak to the Enforcement officer. Luckily I got hold of one of the officers sooner than later and explained the situation. Officer heard the whole story and agrees that there is a problem and council has to correct it. Officer also advised me to park in another street near by where the parkmobile info marry up with the front facia info. Since then I stopped getting tickets. Current situation: Current situation is that I appealed all the PCNs and council politely rejected and sent a NTO letter on my wife’s name as my wife is Registered Keeper of the car. Way forward: I am thinking to take a video of the whole situation, parking app usage video and put similar explanation as above in my respresentation to council. Questions I do have now: 1) The NTO letter is on my wife’s name, As me being the driver at the time PCN issuance can I do the representation? 2) How strong is my case and what are the chances of cancelling the PCN by council after my representation? 3) PCN states a contravention code as “06 – Parked with out clearly Displaying a valid pay and display ticket or voucher”. I think rather it should state “07-Parked with payment made to extend the stay beyond initial time” as I am displaying the council permit on windscreen all the time. Does this discrepancy invalidates the PCN? 4) Does council accepts the video as evidences in representation? 5) Any other suggestions please ?

Are PCNs subject to the 6 years (england) statute barred law anyone know?

Wonder if anyone can help alleviate the burden of these series of PCNs.... I left my car legally parked on the road for approx. 1-month in March during which time my father was critically ill in hospital. When I came back to find my car to my horror it was not where I left it. Luckily I spotted it 50-100 yards down the road, half parked in a permit holders only zone and half parked outside it, with 10+ PCNs attached! Luckily a good Samaritan who lived on the street had written a note stating "your car was moved here by a lorry and lifter by the people doing the road works". I spent the next hr knocking on every house to find this neighbour and finally did find her when she explained how it was unbelievable how far the council contractors moved my car only to dump it with the bonnet poking into a controlled bay and then proceed to ticket it every single day since! This absolutely beggars belief that they are allowed to do this! Now I fully appreciate that sometime during my car being parked there that maybe the council put up signs and because I had not gone back I had not noticed so I get that they are allowed to move the car, but on what planet are they allowed to move it into a permit holders only bay a very long way away from where I left it?! this is tantamount to theft! Needless to say it's not what I need with my dad only just out of hospital, and I intend to appeal but of course my 14 day period has long passed and do I really need to lodge my appeal 10 times?! This seems absolutely ridiculous that they can cause this and then I have so much inconvenience to resolve it. Is there anyway round this by writing to them listing all the PCNs and asking to cancel them all in one go seeing as I was not responsible and I have several witnesses who will vouch for the contractors moving my car? Can I sue the contractors for distress? Any help would be much appreciated.

Hi All, I recently received 2 PCN for parking on the pavement on consecutive days (the car didn't move). I don't deny I parked on the pavement but (!): 1) the "pavement" isn't usable by pedestrians, doesn't lead anywhere and is dangerously overgrown with brambles 2) there are signs around the area stating that pavement parking is allowed and the markings on the pavement are now completely invisible. 3) although, in theory parking off this tiny section of pavement is allowed and wouldn't block the road, it would make passage harder especially for vans. There wasn't a car parked opposite when I parked but there was one just behind. As I don't live on that road I was trying to be polite! 4) the first PCN for was for code 62 (parking with one or more wheels on or over a footpath) but the second, issued less than 24 hours later was for code 622 (with the same description). The parking site is on the rail side of Avalon Close off Whatley Avenue, SW20. Unfortunately as I've only just joined the site I can't post a link but google streetmap shows the area really clearly thought the brambles are about a foot further out from the fence now (yes the car was pressed hard against them! The front of the car was well back from the dropped curb by approximately a metre. Is there anything I can do other than appeal and expect two rejections? £110 seems a lot to pay for 2 days of trying to park considerately! Any thought gratefully received. Cheers John

Hi all We have received two PCN's from a Euro Car Park - members of BPA demanding payment of £100 each for both mine and my husband's cars. The date issued is 17/12/2016. I cannot recall the full details of the incident so I am relying on their evidence to advise me - however it looks to be very lacking in detail with simply an images of my number plate twice with text underneath it alleging the time of entry and exit. Now this does not seem sufficient to me but you tell me.... Is there advise on the best route of action to take as this is the first letter from them i want to deal with the matter asap but do not want to pay. is there a thread on here that i might've missed that talks about what to do Many thanks Tam

Im fuming. It just seems to me that car owners are one big cash machine for councils. Stick some cameras up and let the money roll in. I recently moved to a new area and started driving to work. Unbeknown to me one of the roads I was turning into on my way to work each morning at 7:30am has a time restriction in place that you cant turn into it after 7:30am. Its dark, its christmas , the streets are empty, no one was killed, no traffic was caused. But yet I have appealed against these tickets and am told by the council they are 'certain an offense has taken place' and I need to pay £390 thankyou very much. That is like almost half a months wages. For making a mistake that has harmed no one. Does anyone know how I can fight this?

Hi, I would greatly appreciate a bit of advice. Having previously naively paid PCNs many years ago in NHS car parks where I have worked , in recent times I have wised up and appealed multiple tickets successfully. I am currently awaiting an NHS car parking permit from the Hospital I am working at, but I have been advised there may be a long delay. There is no public parking space in the area and I live to far away to take public transport. I have had a few PCNs that I have provisionally appealed against on grounds of Empark not owning the land and the charge being disproportionate to losses incurred (am awaiting the outcomes of the appeals). I have previously appealed on these grounds multiple times and always been successful either on initial appeal or at the POPLA stage. I note that some companies have started quoting recent appeals that have been rejected on such grounds to try and deter the appeal, however POPLA still seem to continue approving appeals on these grounds. My query is, can a private parking company make a larger case against someone for multiple PCNs, or is each PCN taken on a case by case basis? Many Thanks

Hi, I am really hoping someone may be able to help me understand what I should be doing. I'll try and be concise ... I currently have 5 local authority PCNS that have now gone to the bailiffs at a cost of £187 each (originally £35) + the threatened bailiff charge of £235 on top should they call. Early in the year I was diagnosed with acute depression and anxiety by my GP brought on by a combination of events , some of which are still continuing today, that ultimately ended up with me being signed off work and eventually having to resign. I don't dispute the fact that these tickets were given for genuine reasons. The problem I have/had is that I wasn't able to manage my affairs during this period and, in turn, did not make representations within the allocated time. I have contacted the council since and explained my predicament and even offered a token payment but they simply say it is beyond their remit now. I tried to explain that when applying for housing benefit, after losing my job, I was able to backdate my claim for the same very reason that I haven't been able to address these PCNS, because I wasn't able to manage my affairs - this is an actual example the council use on their HB forms as to why a person would be able to successfully backdate their claim. They did not really advise me what I could do and then the next thing is that the bailiffs' letters start arriving. If anyone could advise it would be much appreciated as I really don't need this! Thanks

Hi all! Long story short, I got into a bit of a mess 18-24 months ago and through my own daft fault failed to pay a number of PCNs issued for parking too long at work/home (my area operates a time clock system). 1 of these went to TEC and Jacobs were instructed (pre April 2014, in May 2013). After a couple of visits and notices through the letterbox I heard nothing more from Jacobs and as far as I understand the Warrant for Northampton expired start of April 14. I had 9 others which I managed to set up a payment plan with the council for and was paying off monthly. However in March / April after a period of financial hardship (like literally not having enough food to always eat daily) I had difficulty paying my payment plan. I did get it reinstated in May time and made 3 further payments which meant I had fully paid 7 of these 9. In July and August with school holidays (I have a son) and the extra costs this always brings + school uniform costs plus various other financial issues (feel like its a vicous spiral I'm trapped in) I fell behind again. This time I did not get the 'you've fallen behind' letter and I had anticipated making my next instalment on 17th Sept when I get paid my tax credits. However I came home on Friday to 3 Notice of Enforcements (2 for the outstanding PCNs on my arrangement and a further one for a parking violation at the end of 2013). I immediately wrote to the Council profusely apologising (I realise this will do absolutely naff all but thought it was worth a try) anf then set about panicking like mad. Having done my research online I see the rules re bailiffs have changed in April 2014 with new regs so I have 1 main question: Are they still not allowed to force entry in your absence? or can they come in to 'Take Control' regardless? Absolutely stressing as am out all day at work and my teenager gets in before I do and although he isn't allowed to open the door when Im not in I'm terrified they'll come and break in or whatever whilst I'm at work. Secondly, I absolutely will arrange to pay these amounts owed but can only do so at smaller amounts and although I will write to Marstons to make a payment offer I expect this to be rejected as too low. The notice suggests I have until 15.9.14 to arrange to pay but everything I have read suggests that the notice is a 7 day thing (they're dated 1.9.14) so thats 14 days? I'm sorry for the questions but I'm still operating in a barely contained state of panic and I'm so frightened that they'll come and get in by force and I (or my boy) will come home to all our / his things taken... .. that would simply break my heart. And yes I know its all my own fault and I take full blame for being rubbish with finances and money but I do want to resolve this. Help please :'(

Hi everyone I've read here with interest for about a year now but decided to register to post the following, partly for advice but also because I am in contact with a Magistrate (a friend) who has kindly offered some advice (which I don't have yet, we will be meeting up next week). So, sans advice, here is what has happened so far: I have several PCNs issued. All of which I'm sure are valid. There is a time limit on the streets near my workplace and due to the nature of my work I have occasionally been caught short. My fault. I had paid all PCNs I received (except 2 which I challenged, 1 of which was withdrawn), however, a Bailiff turned up at my workplace in September asking for £480.08 for two PCNs at £82 each. I told him I thought I had paid all PCNs, but he said clearly I hadn't. This may be the case, but as far as I know I had paid my fines/bills/?? Like I said I am not contesting the PCNs themselves BUT the Bailiff fees. Bailiff's costs where simply entitled "Bailiffs costs". The template for costs/expenses etc was on the back of the form BUT no actual breakdown of costs in this instance were given and he told me he didn't need to provide this, I could write to head office. His companion was apparently blocking my vehicle in outside and a tow truck would be called if I didn't pay up, he said. So, I paid the fee (I was busy at work and having a bailiff turn up and argue could effect business negatively). Surprised that I had PCNs outstanding, I contacted my local council, and they provided me via email with a few PCNs they believed to be outstanding. They also said that some were already with the Bailiffs and I would have to deal with them directly, implying I had no right to pay them directly to the council. I sent a letter of complaint to the Council (via recorded delivery AND email), and cc'd the Bailiffs and my local MP. I outlined why I thought the fees had been inflated and quoted the legal jargon from the legislation.gov.uk website. I also requested that they look into the matter and refund any money that was not owed. No reply. From anyone. Today I wake up, Bailiff at my door (same guy) saying I had another £480 fine from 2 parking tickets, and he would take my car if I didn't pay. I asked him for a breakdown of costs, and he said he didn't need to provide one. I told him that, as far as I was aware, he did need to do this before taking any further action - and that he could clamp my car but certainly couldn't remove it without giving me fair notice to pay, especially as I hadn't received a warning letter. I also informed him that my centre console in my car contains a non-removable harddrive containing personal information which is protected from removal by the Data Protection act (direct from the legislation website). He presented me with a court order for one of the PCNs, with "£480" simply scrawled at the top. I told him unless he can produce a breakdown of costs I would be calling the police. He said he didn't need to, and proceeded to walk out back to my car. I went back upstairs, picked up a camera, and turned it on. I went outside with the camera on and asked for an explanation and breakdown of costs. This was not forthcoming. I said "So, you are willing to take my car after having shown me this piece of paper, and don't think that I am entitled to a breakdown of costs?" He told me I was twisting his words, and "playing word games". As far as I was concerned it was a basic conversation and his lack of linguistic skills are no fault of mine. I called the police, they said they wouldn't come out. I said I felt intimidated and explained the situation and they told me to call 101. I called 101, and they said pretty much the same thing, and that it was a civil matter. Perhaps if I had two cars I could block the bailiffs van in and see if it remains a civil matter then. Anyway, as I mentioned I have a contact who is a magistrate who may be able to shed some light on this for me having lost almost £1000 in (mostly, it seems) inflated costs. After speaking with the police, these bailiffs in theory could slap any amount on their "costs" and get away with it. Moral of the story, don't park where you shouldn't and if you do then call the council JUST IN CASE you have any fine you don't know about. PCNs need to exist, unfortunately, to stop people taking the **** but I also feel that Bailiffs need to be doing their job fairly and properly.

Hi Guys, I'm new to this site, seems like a great resource. Any of your help will be greatly appreciated. I have uploaded a couple of files of the PCNs in question. Anyway the story... I came home from work on Friday to be greeted by two PCNs. You can imagine how blue the air was. On closer inspection they are for two offences committed within a minute of each other. One is for parking in a loading bay for about five minutes(while loading for a local business) the other is for entering a no entry zone, all of this on the same road. With regard to the the no entry one, I think I may just have to pay it, but I had no idea I was entering a no entry otherwise I wouldn't have done it, but ignorance is no excuse and I imagine this is the line the Hammersmith and Fulham council will take, but if any of you guys can find a technicality then great. It is the loading bay one that is my major annoyance. The PCN states that I was parked in the loading bay for a few minutes and I should not have parked there in my class of vehicle. Granted I don't drive a HGV, but my car is a work car, I am an IT field engineer working across London using my own vehicle. It is insured as a work car by myself so I fail to see how they can charge me for this. I would have been loading a computer/it equipment to one of the estate agents we have all over London. I guess my question on this would be, Can i use a loading bay to load to a local business in a normal car that is insured for business use. Surely this is the very definition of a loading bay, and why it was placed there in the first place. I don't drive like an idiot, in fact i consider myself a considerate driver. Why are these councils allowed to keep handing these out willy nilly to make u the funding short falls. It makes me extremely angry. Frankly I think they are taking the ****, and are abusing their powers to extract money out of the easiest targets ie motorists. Anyway rant over. If any of you rather wonderful people can help me it it would be greatly appreciated. Kindest regards Rich3423

Hi My partner parked my car in a residents bay last April and received a PCN on the windscreen. He stupidly removed this, and left the car where it was. When he returned a second time, there was a second PCN. I was not aware of this until a couple of months ago when I received a bailiffs letter for one of the PCNs. The fee had increased to £263 and I reluctantly paid this. The bailiff advised us to make contact with the council and ask them to waive the second charge as the car was not moved. I did this a week later, and when I had not heard back from them, I rang them today. They verbally told me that there is nothing they can do. My question is this - the tickets were given within 6 hours of each other and the car was not moved. Can this count as a continuous offense and where can I go/look to prove this? I have no right to appeal - does this mean that my hands are tied and there is absolutely nothing that I can do? Please help!