DEBT Collection Agency of the YEAR Awards

[babybear39]

I really do hope Mike falls flat on his face as he tries to contact a debtor live on air. I wonder if he is fortunate to get through to someone how many sections of the Data Protection Act he will be breaking by broadcasting the conversation to a hall full of assholes

 

My thoughts exactly ODC

[sillygirl1]

Still no reply to my email about the blok from CCSS judging, obviously they don't care either.

 

Pity they don't call me and my flatmates, we could really give them the runaround live.....

 

If there is a bus trip up to the event please count me in....

[dannyboy660]

I think Mr Hunt's little event is guaranteed to be staged.

 

Too risky making a genuine call and it's likely to make him look like the dick he no doubt is.

 

It will be a very much managed event with a little humour, mild aggression and ultimately Mr Hunt wins the day.

 

Yawn.

[andrew1]

I have it upon good authority that our Mr Hurlstrom is not fazed by our objections to sit as a Judge in the forthcoming awards ceremony, congratulating some of those DCA's who dished out the stress. You are a brave fellow Sir, I trust this will not colour your judgment of who to choose?

 

We shall see, but the heat has to be turned up. Morally, it's wrong....look in the mirror and ask yourself, just cos you're wealthy doesn't mean it's right.

 

You have been warned....

 

 

Sarah

[ODC]

Looks like he knows what side his bread is buttered on. Well done Sir for making a decision based on greed and a free meal rather than moral principles. Glad to see you have shown how totally unbiased your organisation actually is.

 

Looks like less people arringing to pay their alleged debts through CCCS and more joining the totally biased and proud of it CAG. Looks like the DCAs can expect more CCA requests and Statute Barred letters thatn ever before

 

''If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people He gave it to'' Dorothy Parker

[dannyboy660]

Can I take it that means I'm gradually winning people around on the CCCs and slightly suspicious Mr Hurlston issue??

 

I'm sure there are many who are glad to just let CCCS take the pressure off - for a while - but how many people are aware their predicament is being shouted from the rooftops to any of the vultures who may be interested?? The more you look at it, or speak to people who have experience of them, the whole thing looks very strange indeed....and the same name(s) keep appearing. The fact he can't see the conflict by chumming up with the DCA's, trashing local Credit Unions and pushing for credit to be granted to 16-17 year olds is astounding arrogance (or ignorance, not sure which).

 

He'll come out with some highly predictable crap about only working with ethical DCA's who operate within the guidelines etc - making sure people don't overstretch on credit etc "it's their own fault" stuff........pure fantasyland, I mean, credit for 16-17 years old is hardly the voice of responsibility is it. Sounds like catch 'em early and bleed 'em dry when they're on the database.

 

Surely it's far better to follow the National Debtline DIY thing and insist on dealing with original creditors, or as ODC quite rightly says with a bit of help and support from CAG. Once the OC marks the debt charged off it's as good as dead anyway. Ask the taxman;)

[sosumi]

Mr Hurlston, is the money really worth it?

There shouldn't even be an Award.

It shames anyone involved.

Shames all of them. A shameful 'business' indeed.

Link to 'Tragic (G E and Westcot Credit)'

[dannyboy660]

Thank you.

 

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[Sidewinder]

What will they use to measure client satisfaction? Lowest suicide rate in the industry?

 

Grandmother 'terrorised' to death after bank wrongly hounded her for £16,000 | the Daily Mail

 

How about inviting Mrs Brazier's daughter to be a guest speaker.....?

[Goldlady]

How about doing a balloon release outside the venue - in memory of Mrs Brazier and to get some publicity?

[babybear39]

How about doing a balloon release outside the venue - in memory of Mrs Brazier and to get some publicity?

 

I second that as long as the family were in agreement.

[ODC]

The meeting will be full of balloons and they will all be spouting hot air

[Goldlady]

:lol::lol:

 

In all seriousness I could organise the balloon side of it if anyone thinks it is a go-er. We could raise funds for the family by asking for a donation for each balloon released.

[sillygirl1]

I'd love to join in on this one, these DCA's are a nuisance and need to be curbed, not have self-administered awards given to them. I would nominate the three agencies involved in the case of poor Mrs Brazier to win unilaterally.

[Goldlady]

OK - a plan. We could have a different colour of balloon for each of the DCA's in the award ceremony. People could vote for the DCA who has destroyed their life the most by purchasing a balloon of the required colour for £1. Some of the money raised would cover the cost of the balloons and helium -the balance could be donated to Mrs Brazier's family. What does anyone think?

[ODC]

That wouldnt be fair as Cabot with their multitude of aliases would be at a distinct advantage, MH for gross stupidity would be in with a shout, Clownells/Hampton iLegal/Red Debt would be contenders and RWC would know all about these balloons even if the thread was not read by them. Ruthless for sending the most threats to Bankrupt and silly messages about parcels.

[dannyboy660]

A quiet, dignified 'Protest of Shame' might be just as effective.

 

It would only take a few people outside the venue with a coffin or two full of DCA letters to make the point. As the 'guests' arrive they could be accompanied by the sound of constantly ringing telephones. We could 'trace' the names of some notable DCA personnel and put it on placards with a 'Default Notice', perhaps even match them up with the wrong company. It's the kind of thing the press could really make a meal of.

 

A balloon release is a good idea, but might require a sizeable gathering to be really 'newsworthy'. Also there's the issue of thousands of plastic/rubbery non biodegradable balloons being let loose on the environment.

 

It would be a shame to let it slip by quietly and unnoticed, except by the parasites themselves. Something should be done to mark the occasion.

[tiglet]

Agreed - can we have a show of hands as to who is willing to go?

 

I did post in the CAG meets section, but there were no responses.

[sosumi]

A quiet, dignified 'Protest of Shame' might be just as effective.

 

It would only take a few people outside the venue with a coffin or two full of DCA letters to make the point. As the 'guests' arrive they could be accompanied by the sound of constantly ringing telephones. We could 'trace' the names of some notable DCA personnel and put it on placards with a 'Default Notice', perhaps even match them up with the wrong company. It's the kind of thing the press could really make a meal of.

 

A balloon release is a good idea, but might require a sizeable gathering to be really 'newsworthy'. Also there's the issue of thousands of plastic/rubbery non biodegradable balloons being let loose on the environment.

 

It would be a shame to let it slip by quietly and unnoticed, except by the parasites themselves. Something should be done to mark the occasion.

I think I agree with DannyBoy. I just feel a bit cautious because of the amount of money these companies have - ie. they're loaded, and we've all seen, by their Web Pages, that they're good at 'spin'.

I also agree with Babybear - needing Mrs Brazier's family's agreement. I'm just not sure if we should even be asking them.

Just a reminder of the dates:

Wednesday 28 November – Hilton Metropole, Birmingham

Call for entries – deadline 19 October 2007

[snlc]

I posted this on another thread but Dannyboy660 pointed me here:

 

I've been watching this thread with some interest. Finding out who is passing our details about is often time consuming.

 

There was a thread about the head of the CCCS charity Malcolm Hurlston which I cant find, but I have done a little chasing back myself.

 

I received a mailshot from the Money Group Ltd (formerly called the Mortgage Group Ltd until August 2005 when they did what Cabot Financial UK Ltd did with Kingshill No 1 Ltd and swopped names -live company for Dormant - why? the mind boggles and we will have to wait until I find out). But these are Money brokers, loan brokers, mortgage brokers with credits on their headed notepaper ( company logo's for) igroup (GE Money , First National & Mortgage Top Ups Ltd ( The money groups own specialist lending division).

 

The Money Group Ltd had sent out a mailer and I sent a Subject Access Request to find out why and where they got my details from. Answer came back 1) The Registry Trust Ltd 2) The Response Team

 

The Response Team look inocuous enough, but the Registry Trust is this ' Not for Profit ' organisation the brain child of none other than one Mr Malcolm Hurlston a Director of the Trust which records for the Government the CCJ's etc we all get through the courts.

 

Now this organisation, whilst admittedly supplying publically available information ( I picked up some ccj's back a few years ago) is SELLING this information to money brokers who are then targetting people who have had a hard time AND at the other end of the stick Mr Hurlston is HEAD of CCCS the debt charity helping people who are in financial trouble...

 

I am digging and finding other Directors of said Registry Trust Ltd also in Debt Counselling companies and one possibly in a Loan company( checking). Now come on what the hell is going on?

 

..AND This Hurlston fellow is now sitting on a panel of Judges to congratulate DCA's in November for some credit magazine ??????

 

I'll await your comments ( serious Comments and then decide how I will tackle this. I don't often say much, but when I do.....

 

 

Tom

[andrew1]

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/112671-cag-cra-r-club-17.html

[sosumi]

DannyBoy660 strikes gold, again! He put this on this thread some time ago :

House of Commons Hansard Written Answers for 30 Apr 1996 (pt 24)

[andrew1]

Popular lad this Hurlston fellow! :

 

Same source!

 

County Court Judgment Records

Mr. Todd: To ask the Minister of State, Department for Constitutional Affairs what assessment she has made of the implications for competitiveness of the restriction to a single third-party distributor of information based on county court judgment records. [67795]

 

Ms Harman: No such assessment has been made.

 

 

15 May 2006 : Column 733W

 

The ‘Registrar’ is a statutory function established by the Register of Judgments, Orders and Fines Regulations 2005. Registry Trust Ltd., which is a non-profit making company, kept the Register of County Court Judgments for the Department, under the terms of a contract, since 1986. Following a review of the service in 2002 to 2004 and subsequent consultation, the Department concluded that the contract for the keeping of the register should be put out to tender from time to time.

 

To ensure continuity of the provision of the register service and a smooth implementation of new regulations (which include the provision of new data in the register on unpaid fines), the Department decided in the short-term to negotiate a revised contract with Registry Trust Ltd. They have been re- appointed as Registrar to run the Register of Judgments, Orders and Fines until 2009.

 

We will be reviewing the options for the longer term in 2007, taking into account competitiveness issues. We currently expect to hold a competition in 2008 for the post-April 2009 contract.

 

Mr. Todd: To ask the Minister of State, Department for Constitutional Affairs whether she has conducted a survey of users of county court judgment records to obtain their views on the value of such records. [67799]

 

Ms Harman: The Department carried out a review of the service and method of service delivery of the Register of County Court Judgments in 2003 prior to public consultation. This included research among users of county court judgment records of the use to which records are put, their current and future value and sought views on how the service could be improved.

 

Mr. Todd: To ask the Minister of State, Department for Constitutional Affairs what recent assessment she has made of the accuracy of county court judgment records; what plans her Department has to recover the cost of improvement from the users of the records; and if she will make a statement. [67800]

 

Ms Harman: An audit of the accuracy of the county court judgments recorded in the Register of County Court Judgments was carried out in 2004. This advised the drafting of amendments to the Civil Procedure Rules, the objective of which is to improve the accuracy of the data supplied to the courts by parties on issue of a claim. The cost to the courts of implementing the requirements of the amended Civil Procedure Rules is to be recovered from Registry Trust Ltd. through the charges raised by the Department for the supply of judgment records.

 

 

I think the clocks ticking for Registry Trust.

 

"Quote from RT:

Please note that the Registry has recently completed discussions with HM Court Service regarding an update to our licence to run the Register of Judgments Orders and Fines. These discussions have been on-going for many months and we are expecting to confirm the detail of these changes during the next few months but for now I can only advise that a new contract will be required for data purchasers. Our new licence is currently with the lawyers being drafted and until this is finalised I cannot comment on what might be in the new data purchase contracts".

 

 

 

Sarah

[sosumi]

and here:

MALCOLM HURLSTON CORPORATE CONSULTANCY LTD.

[andrew1]

and here:

MALCOLM HURLSTON CORPORATE CONSULTANCY LTD.

 

Already got it!