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    • Welcome to the National Consumer Service Buying any goods or any services??? A used car? - Paying by cash or bank transfer??? - BIG Fail!Share the love – Tell a friend about the Consumer Action Group - your National Consumer ServiceAre you buying a used car...? Protect yourself – read our used car guideESSENTIAL:: Read our Customer Services Guide!!!Twitter - Why you should open a Twitter account ESSENTIAL:: Read our Customer Services Guide!!!Have we helped you today...? Please help the CAG Had a car accident? Been offered a courtesy car?Follow @Real_CAG Parcel Delivery Insurance is Unlawful - The TimesWhy don't you change your profile picture?? Problem with utilities company or phone/broadband? Begin by sending a statutory request for your personal data. 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If you need to add something to this thread then   Please click the "Report " link   at the bottom of one of the posts.   If you want to post a new story then Please Start your own new thread That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help    Thanks   citizenB Posted March 4, 2014 #1   The questionnaires below provide important information which will allow us to help you. In order to use them, you will have to copy them into your own post and then give us the answers – preferably in red below each question. You can start by overwriting the prompt: "Give answer here" below each question – and your responses should automatically appear in red   Thank you +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   You have received a claim form.   firstly - read all the posts in this thread FIRST...   then copy this first msg to your thread - and put your answer after each question   In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us]     Which Court have you received the claim from ? Name County Court   MCOL Northampton N1 ? Manual Claim CCMCC (Salford) ? New beta WWW.MONEYCLAIMS.SERVICE.GOV.UK ?   If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)     Name of the Claimant ? Give answer here   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Give answer here   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. Give answer here   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM     Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim in full (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. state how many digits the account number has.. Give answer here   What is the total value of the claim? Give answer here   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Give answer here   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Give answer here   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? Give answer here Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Give answer here   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? Give answer here   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Give answer here   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Give answer here   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Give answer here   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Give answer here   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Give answer here   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Give answer here   Why did you cease payments? Give answer here   What was the date of your last payment? Give answer here   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Give answer here   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Give answer here   What you need to do now.   Answer the questions above   If you have not already done so – send a CCA request to the claimant for a copy of your agreement (If Applicable) (except for Overdraft/ Mobile/Telephone accounts)   Send a CPR31.14 request to the solicitor named on the claim form for copies of documents mentioned/implied within the claim form. There are two different versions - one for Loans/Credit cards the other for Current accounts   Request 1 - Loans/Credit Cards     Request 2 - Current Accounts     You may use a CPR part 18 request for any other information (not request documents) that you might require in order to defend yourself. Please note that CPR 18 is specifically for Fast Track claims and although technically the claim has yet to be allocated to a track the claimant may refuse to comply for this reason.   If you require CPR Part 18 - this will need to be drafted specifically.   If you are not planning on defending for one reason or another – then you will need to complete an Income and Expenditure form and contact the Solicitor with your proposal. The N9a is already enclosed in the claim pack for Admittance which should be sent to the solicitor named on the claim form   If you are considering making a partial admittance N9b must be completed and returned to the court. Please note in most cases a partial admittance will result in an automatic CCJ for the amount admitted.   You have received a Claim - What you need to do.pdf1.33 MB · 242 downloads     Before Printing the PDF TIP   If you DO NOT wish to print Page 1 (Cover Page) of the PDF, please ensure to do the following:   Ensure you go to your Printer Settings and set it to 'Print from Page 2' (this way Page 1 (Cover Page) should not print out).   Note: This will save you Ink & Paper     Bookmark   Report 3 weeks later...   AndyOrch Posted March 20, 2014 #2   Once you receive a Court Summons N1   As a defendant in a small claims case it is important that you act quickly and do not ignore the claim form when it arrives. Remember, the claim will proceed anyway even if you don’t respond. If the claim goes against you, it will be very difficult to make a counter claim as you didn’t respond to the initial small claim.   You may be unaware that you are the defendant in a small claims case that a Creditor has bought against you. When the small claims form arrives follow these initial steps:   1: Read the Form Carefully   The detail about the claim that is being bought against you will be in the ‘particulars of claim’ section. If this section isn't completed, or has the words ‘particulars of claim to follow’ take no action now and wait until you are sent details of the claim against you. You may want to consult a lawyer at this stage.   2: Respond in Time   It’s vitally important that you respond to the claim for you have been sent. Remember that there is a 19 day (5 +14) time limit on this to acknowledge the claim.You must submit before the 19 days are up, so post your response with plenty of time.If your intention is to defend the claim in full you get a further 14 days to submit your response ...so 33 days in total.   3: Talk to the Claimant   Just because a small claim has been bought against you and a claim form issued, this doesn’t mean you are not allowed to contact the claimant directly. In fact the court encourages you to try and settle the claim without the need for a court appearance. So, try and resolve your dispute directly with the claimant if you can.   Not Responding to a Small Claim   If you ignore the small claims form when it arrives this can have an adverse impact on your financial status. The court will continue with the small claims lawsuit that is being bought against you even in your absence as this is a legal requirement. When the small claim is processed you will be sent a bill showing the amount you owe and any additional costs. The small claims against you is a legal process that will be recorded on the Register of Judgements, Orders and Fines. This information is used to check your credit, so could have a negative impact when you next apply for any credit. To avoid damaging your credit rating reply to your small claims docket as soon as you can.   How to Respond to Your Small Claims Form   When you received your form from the court you will also have been sent a response pack. In this pack you will see the option that are open to you. These include:   • A dispute claim form. You can use this form if you do not agree that you are liable for the small claim being bought against you and wish to submit a Defence. • Details about how to pay the amount being claimed from you. • Details about how to admit to part of the small claim against you, and how you can ask the claimant for more time to pay.   There are Two Types of Small Claims:   Fixed Amounts:   If the claim against you is for a fixed amount of money your response pack will contain three forms. Form N9 (acknowledgement of Service), form N9A (admission form) and N9B (defence and counterclaim form).   Unspecified Amounts:   If the amount being claimed is unspecified you will be sent forms N9 and N9C (admission form) and N9D (defence and counterclaim form). It is vital that you read the accompanying explanatory notes before choosing which form to send back.   Paying the Small Claim   If you want to make full payment of the amount being claimed against you this amount will be shown on the claim for you have been sent, and will also have details about where to send the money. Don’t forget, this must be done within the 14 day time limit or your case will proceed to the next stage.   In some instances you would like to pay, but need more time, you can give details about the delay you would like on form N9A, which should be in your response pack. It’s also a good idea to read leaflet EX309: The Defendant Admits by claim as this gives more details on this aspect of your case when fixed amounts of money are involved. Leaflet EX308 gives details of cases when unspecified amounts are being claimed against you.   Also please read forms EX326 and EX160A   How to Defend a Claim Against You   Disputed claims are handled by filling in the appropriate form from your response pack. You have three choices: Form N9, N9B or N9D. Read the note accompanying each form carefully to ensure you completely correctly. Pay special attention to the allegations raised on the form. If you don’t respond to each the court will assume you are admitting guilt. Edited April 10, 2014 by stu007 Updated PDF added    1   Bookmark   Report 2 months later...   citizenB   Posted June 5, 2014 #3   PLEASE NOTE - WARNING   Once you have received your claim form - the Court timetable comes into force. Not that of the creditor or claimant. If you have requested information with them after the claim has been issued - or have entered into discussion with them and they say something like "We will put this on hold for a period of time". You cannot and must not ignore the timetable from the court.   This thread should serve as an example   http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?416202&p=4547677#post4547677   The OP in the case above was in communication with the CAG Vodafone rep. A claim was issued during this time. The Rep in good faith said he would ask the Claimant to put things on hold.... they did not.. the OP ignored advice from caggers to continue with the court timetable and did not submit a defence. The claimaint obtained a Judgment by default. Edited June 5, 2014 by citizenB     Bookmark   Report 3 yr AndyOrch changed the title to You have received a Court Claim ISSUED IN ENGLAND & WALES What you need to do   style="text-align: center;">     Thread Locked because no one has posted on it for the last 3638 days. 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DCA staff are basically ignorant and educationally compromised . DCA work is just right for them. They need no real education to do it , in fact it is a bonus as there is less to be undone and no real previous experience required. It's a job for the non achievers .

 

And the non achievement psychology suits the DCA companies. Lets them work out the frustrations of inadequacy on bullying the weak and vulnerable .

 

Geez - you learnt well :)

 

Seems the DCA's pick out these staff because they aren't likely to ask questions and so on - they offer them bonuses to perform like robots. The DCA's don't want intelligent staff with morals and education else there might be questions asked about their law breaking ways. Far easier to pick out the less educate staffing isn't it?

 

I am a great believer in Karma - and this stuff will come around and bite a few rear ends - so these DCA's and their staff had best be careful where they bend - because they may not be able to sit down for a while!! ;)

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I am a great believer in Karma - and this stuff will come around and bite a few rear ends - so these DCA's and their staff had best be careful where they bend - because they may not be able to sit down for a while!! ;)

 

Just to prove that point and DCA's across the board take note- In 1993 I had a very bad time financially for reasons I won't bore you with, but I was on a six figure salary and my 10 yr old business collapsed through no fault of my own. I tried to borrow my way out of trouble using credit cards which I had given me like confetti when all was going well. I felt I could trade my way out of trouble, but ended up relying on cards - It just didn't work. My world as I knew it imploded. A number of personal creditors were left waiting and the accounts passed to a number of Debt collection agencies of which Cabot, Wescot, Fredricksons, & Blair Oliver & Scot (BOS) were prominent. Cabot and Wescot were the pits, Fredricksons not much better, but Cabot were the lowest of the low in what they did. I always vowed that one day I would find a way of calling these companies to account for what they did. They sent me into a two year deep depression, I never worked or spoke to a soul - that was my life and it spanned far longer than just the 2 years. In March 2006, long after I had gathered my life back I saw my chance. That was when I was introduced to CAG. Recognising I was not alone I began liaising with a few more behind the public scenes of the forum and The Cabot Fan Club was born. Whilst publicly Cabot has been the focus of my attention there has been a lot of ground work done to bring the others to account too. This time embracing additional organisations like Thames Credit and Log BooK Loans who will be feeling the impact of the Fan Club sooner rather than later on behalf of others who I have picked up as having suffered too. Not one DCA will be left untouched and you can all thank Ken Maynard, Cabot and Wescot for that.

 

I too believe in Karma - but this lot are getting it back in this life not the next cos I want to watch them fall and I will. The rest is history. My day has come:D

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But doesn't his silence speak volumes?

 

I smell something fishy, and I'm not talking about the contents of Mr. Hurlston's Apple Crumble....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt/113590-should-i-use-cccs.html

 

....and our chairman is...

 

About us

 

 

I'm seeing Stars and Stripes again....

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HOIST BY THEIR OWN PETARD.

 

Blimey it works....:-)

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I can't put what I'm thinking into words which wouldn't be potentially libelous, so I shan't.

 

But I bet you're thinking it too....

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  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

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Yes sometimes it's probably better not to say too much, just present a few links and a little evidence to stimulate the interest.....then let people do their own investigating and reach their own conclusions.

 

I have no doubt CCCS are doing good work in helping people sort out their financial difficulties, and I'm not attempting to prove otherwise. I just think the service they provide may not be right for everyone and people should be more aware of their background to make an informed choice.

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Lets bring these **** down. I cannot post the evidence on the site (as some of it contains personal account details of thier debtors, and unkile barclays bank and the dca in question i value the privacy of the individual) but I used to work for a DCA. i'd like to hear from anyone who has had 1 phone call after the CCA request and subsequent default, or harrassment following requests for this not to happen from either of the following: mercers or equidebt.

 

i have some ammo already against these 2 outfits, but want a little more. we can them make a report to the oft, and try and get these 2 kicked into touch. let's fight back, not winging on a forum, but lets really start using the same Consumer Credit Act that they use to threaten against them. it really is time to show these cowboys that they can either respect people, or suffer.

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Debt management plan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

"One of the concerns raised is that credit counseling groups that are paid for services by creditors is in fact nothing more than debt collector masquerading as a charity since they provide a commercial service, debt collection, to creditors for revenue and income. It would be hard to find a charitable purpose and mission in that activity".................

 

it goes on to say....

 

"Consumers often make a choice or determine the quality of the debt management group by looking to see if they charge the debtor a fee. Generally those that do charge a fee are thought to be taking advantage of the debtor. Consumers have no idea that in fact it is the other way around. Credit counseling groups that are compensated by the creditor are much more likely to acquiesce to the wishes and demands of the funding creditors and not treat debtor and their creditors fairly or repay debt in a balanced manner".

 

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Am I allowed to borrow that from Wikipedia???

 

If not, can a Mod remove it, and spank my bottom until it turns purple and really hurts????

 

 

OK I'll leave it alone for a while, and see if Mr Hurlston replies to anyone.

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  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

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The deeper you delve into the seedy world of the DCAs you can see how much their evil poison spreads through the seemingly decent side of the credit industry. Thanks to CAG and the OFT and the like this looks like being an interesting few months for those DCAs that are holding on to their licences by the skin of their teeth

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The deeper you delve into the seedy world of the DCAs you can see how much their evil poison spreads through the seemingly decent side of the credit industry. Thanks to CAG and the OFT and the like this looks like being an interesting few months for those DCAs that are holding on to their licences by the skin of their teeth

Oh I hope so ODC. I'm going to do whatever I can to help. The thought of all the implications brought to light on here - just that I've read myself - over the past few days, has set my head spinning. It's giving me bad dreams, and I woke with a migraine!! :shock:

There are Guardian articles that I looked at yesterday - I'll try to find them again - about the number of people in debt or facing a debt crisis. These DCAs are playing with people's lives - for crying out loud! :mad:

We will not be intimidated.

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The deeper you delve into the seedy world of the DCAs you can see how much their evil poison spreads through the seemingly decent side of the credit industry. Thanks to CAG and the OFT and the like this looks like being an interesting few months for those DCAs that are holding on to their licences by the skin of their teeth

 

The skin's nearly gone and the teeth are false anyway :D they are going!

 

Also Vindicator "let's fight back, not whinging on a forum",

 

'Whinging on a forum' has generated enough ammo to demolish these DCA's by the synergy and pulling power of so many experiences. Without it we wouldn't be here. Apart from the fact that far from it being left to a vacant thread with a few hostile words, considerable evidence has been deposited upon the desks of those who matter in all things ' license', so do not be fooled by what you read on the surface, it's what goes on behind the scenes they need to worry about. Keep whinging away - every little helps.

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Being pedantic - shouldn't that be "whinging"?

 

I think winging it is what the DCA's have been doing for too long.:p

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All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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I have no doubt CCCS are doing good work in helping people sort out their financial difficulties, and I'm not attempting to prove otherwise. I just think the service they provide may not be right for everyone and people should be more aware of their background to make an informed choice.

 

I hear what you're saying. In fact, the only "main" totally impartial, charitable debt help organisation in the UK is National Debtline.

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Credit counseling groups that are compensated by the creditor are much more likely to acquiesce to the wishes and demands of the funding creditors and not treat debtor and their creditors fairly or repay debt in a balanced manner".

 

 

i don't beleive that to be the case of CCCS as they offer pro-rata payments to the creditors, which is the standard adopted in the money advice world.

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I smell something fishy, and I'm not talking about the contents of Mr. Hurlston's Apple Crumble....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt/113590-should-i-use-cccs.html

 

....and our chairman is...

 

About us

 

 

I'm seeing Stars and Stripes again....

 

 

Quote from that site: "Registry Trust Limited is a not for profit company"

 

Accounts are a little behind for sure but for the year to Dec 04

 

Turnover £2.141 million

 

Gross Profit £1.883 million

 

Wages, salaries and Directors emoluments £1.004 million

 

Retained Profits £128,660

 

Ah, thats why they are a not for profit organisation, the directors and staff take it all !

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Pro-rata is the only acceptable and fair way of doing it, I think.

 

But the fact the people at the top are so closely linked to the DCA's/CRA's/Registry Trust etc, to the extent they are virtually the same thing can hardly be fair, and should set alarm bells ringing for anyone. To be bullied for more money when you are already paying to the best of your ability as often seems to happen - by people who are obviously passing around "private and personal" information between themselves is just beyond belief. They are all working to line each others pockets with the same faces at the top and they can effectively hold you captive, as this thread is beginning to highlight. A comment on Page 13 of this supplement http://www.newstatesman.com/pdf/financialinclusionsupp2005.pdf is likely to raise a few more eyebrows.

 

The only one I've found so far that promises any degree of protection is Consolidate Your Debt Today - Debt Management Plan (DMP) as they are are prepared to support your action against DCA's who ignore OFT guidelines by directly approaching people in DMP's etc. Now to me that's a breath of fresh air, but obviously it's air you have to pay for as part of the DMP agreement. Not so good,......but independent at least (I hope :cool: ).

 

Further digging may prove they are not much use at all, so I'm not endorsing them but it was the first I found with a bit of basic Googling...........

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Quote from that site: "Registry Trust Limited is a not for profit company"

 

Accounts are a little behind for sure but for the year to Dec 04

 

Turnover £2.141 million

 

Gross Profit £1.883 million

 

Wages, salaries and Directors emoluments £1.004 million

 

Retained Profits £128,660

 

Ah, thats why they are a not for profit organisation, the directors and staff take it all !

 

That's non-profit????

 

My accounts must be classed as extremely profitable...................:? :?

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The only one I've found so far that promises any degree of protection is Consolidate Your Debt Today - Debt Management Plan (DMP) as they are are prepared to support your action against DCA's who ignore OFT guidelines by directly approaching people in DMP's etc. Now to me that's a breath of fresh air, but obviously it's air you have to pay for as part of the DMP agreement. Not so good,......but independent at least (I hope :cool: ).

 

 

fee-charging per chance?

 

that name does ring a bell, i don't have full internet access so can't read their website.

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fee-charging per chance?

 

that name does ring a bell, i don't have full internet access so can't read their website.

 

Yes, I'm assuming they do charge a fee, but they are not dependent on industry creditors and don't seem to have any obvious ties to anyone.

 

I just liked the way they've made a point of stating they will support any complaint or action you wish to take against DCA's who won't play by the rules, including dropping them in it with FOS. It seems someone at the firm is thinking ahead.

 

As I said before they may be poop, I really don't know........

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Yes, I'm assuming they do charge a fee, but they are not dependent on industry creditors and don't seem to have any obvious ties to anyone.

 

I just liked the way they've made a point of stating they will support any complaint or action you wish to take against DCA's who won't play by the rules, including dropping them in it with OFT. It seems someone at the firm is thinking ahead.

 

As I said before they may be poop, I really don't know........

 

I'll be keen to take a look at their info when i get home this evening.

 

Our organisation is funded in part from the private sector, this doesn't mean we act in a way to protect their interests. I can't vouch whether this is true for CCCS etc. If a creditor will not accept a reasonable payment we can remind them that they help towards the funding of the organisation, and by virtue, should entertain any reasonable payment offer as they do advocate the service via their funding. I have no idea what the CCCS do becuase usually they refer people to us if the query is complex ( I don't think they get much legal training )

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Take a look and see what you think.

 

It may be just a gimmick - but I like their fighting talk ;)

 

I will do :)

 

I'm sure they are run by a creditor but I might be off the mark, I know that American Express have a DMP firm - it was those who spring to mind. I'm likely to be mistaken though! :D

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I will do :)

 

I'm sure they are run by a creditor but I might be off the mark, I know that American Express have a DMP firm - it was those who spring to mind. I'm likely to be mistaken though! :D

 

 

OMG..

 

It could be.......there's something strong about the good old USA in there.

 

Drat. Needs investigation when I have a little more time.

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