Council Tax and Bailiffs ref only - NO POSTS ALLOWED

[Threefields]

Thanks Patrickq1. I have opened a new thread and hope someone picks up on it.

[patrickq1]

paste your link here so i can pick up on it and see who has the help you need to get cracking with this or you could PM one of the MODS like kennythecelt and he will guide you and put someone on your case

patrickq1

[patrickq1]

ok ive sent message to kenny see if he can help good luck

patrickq1

[MEAND2KIDS:)]

can u help...I owed council tax to Bolton council for my previous address one for £700(which is on attatchment of earnings) and one for £260 which is with Jacobs. I paid religiously to them £5 pw by standing order and they left me alone. I was told by somebody at bolton council that I still owed £23.61 and that this would be added to my attatchment so stopped the S.O. I now have the bailiffs at my new address(Bolton council passed it to them.) originally saying I still owed £23.61. I rang and advised what the council said they said they would look into this and get back to me. nobody did. that was in Feb. I thought as I hadn't heard thay had spoken to the council. I then had a bailiff at my door last Friday and he put a notice through the door advising I now owe £73.61. I rang the bailiff who said he would look into this on monday and would call to see me. On wednesday I was in the lounge and saw a man run upto my door post something then run to his van. Its was another letter saying I owe them £123.61 for attempts to collect goods. I rang and advised that he did not knock on door and that the delay in pymt was the fault of the council and themselves. He said basically I had to pay as they would still keep coming and adding further charges. He advised that if he had to call again he would take my little girls trampoline from the back garden. The side gate has a lock on. can he gain entry? also if I pay the £23.61 to the council can they still chase me? The attatchments of earnings are coming from my wages at £150 pm andI'm also paying £90 a month on this years. I can't afford this!!

[casbah]

Hi Me

 

The first thing I would do is get together the 23 quid, at least THAT liability order will be settled, thus meaning the bailiffs will have no power to act ON THAT ONE. Pay it online, you will get an e mail as a receipt, keep that somewhere very safe.

 

Now with regards to the kids trampoline, be very careful, I believe that IF they think you have bought it, as a gift, then they can take it, so hide it away,until you have got them off your back.

Now with regards to their fees, they are not going to be happy bunnies, that the liability order is finished, it takes away all their legal rights, thats why its so important to get that money together. They will try and bully you into paying their fees.

You can then play hard ball, they have the right to charge you for two visits, the first one at 24.50 and the second at 18.00, grand total of 42.50.

Do not believe them if they tell you, you owe more. Check out this website National Debtline, for FREE CONFIDENTIAL and INDEPENDENT ADVICE call 0808 808 4000 look for the bailiffs section.

Now back to the fees, once the liability order is settled, they CANNOT take you to court for their fees, have you got the bailiffs name? I'm sure Tomtubby will be by soon and he can check if they are certified.

 

Let us know how it goes

 

best wishes

cas

[nurse british]

Hi I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice. I'm a full time student nurse, on a bursary of £6,000 pa, and have been since may 2007 due to family reasons my mother was going to temporarily live with me last yr until I found out I would be breaking my tenancy agreement as I only live in a one bed flat and obviously we aren't in a same sex relationship so she only ended up staying with me for 2weeks. In October 2007 I received a letter from council tax for the whole yr because they say she lived with me the whole yr. Both me and my mother have sent in proof that she never lived with me then and I never heard anything. This April I received yet another demand letter so after sending off proof and missing days in university to go to the council on numerous occasions they have still passed my details on the bailiff company Rosenthal(on behalf of Manchester city council). They have since visited twice and have recently sent me a letter stating they are coming in 8 days to seize possessions. I Live in a block of flats and although no one has entered my home directly I did let him in the communal hall way. I'm really confused as to what to do next. The letter I received yesterday has a section called 'Notice of Distress'/'Walking possession agreement', id like to make it clear I haven't, nor would I, sign anything, but im worried the few possessions I have will be taken. What can I do now?

Thanks in advance to any replys

[I've got no money]

If anyone is interested there is a really useful book co written by Ian Wise, the barrister who did most of the poll tax and indeed the early council tax commitals, (he got the people out of jail) its' published by LAG and is called "Enforcement of Local Taxation" by Alan Murdie and Ian Wise.

 

One minor point on bailiffs charges. You can be sent to rison for non payment of council tax but not non payment of bailiffs fees. So, providing you haven't signed a VALID walking possession agreement, in your letter to the Council tell them that your payments to the Council are exclusively in respect of unpaid council tax not bailiff fees. There's not a lot that they can do.

 

saintluco - to follow on from Martonman's post - most local councils' have policies about arrears and people on Benefit. You really need to persuade the council to recall it from the bailiffs - if you concentrate on your health that may (depending on the council) be enough. The other thing to do is get some good debt advice, most cities and big towns have specialist money advice services who are often very helpful.

[casbah]

British Nurse

 

Firstly there is plenty you can do.

When you ahve five minutes, go online and see if your council have a website, if they do search for a dummy run for council tax rebate entitlement. If this comes back that you are entitled to a rebate then get on the 'phone and ask for a rebate form, send it off ASAP.

Now with regards to your Mum staying/not staying with you, ring the council and ask for contact details of your local borough councillor, contact them and explain the situation, now from what you say you have had a rebate, inform the councillor that your Mother only stayed 2 wks, in my opinion borough councils are brilliant at getting you to do their work for them, but I believe the onus is for them to prove your Mother lived there.

Copy your tenancy agreement and send them a copy along with your rebate application.

Pay what the dummy run says you will have to, when I did a dummy run it came up that I wasn't entitled to any rebate so I assume when you are entitled it says a rough estimate of how much you will get, pay the balance and a couple of quid more, just to prove you are a can't payer not a won't payer.

Let us know what happens

best wishes

Cas

[Harris1234]

Hi i hope some one is able to help. I am a single mun of two and is at uni training and due to this i do not pay council tax, i also work part time and i do get tax credit as my income is low. How ever before i became i student i got into arrears with my council tax and a liability order was granted against me for £352.19. To cut a long story short, the council passed the debt on to Equita Grrrrrrrrr. I recieved only two letters from then, for which was in such a time scale that it did not give me time to reply. And then i got another letter saying that they would not accept any payment plan from me as they had been out to my home with no such luck and that they would be out out in 7 days to collect goods. Now on both times i got the letter, it was the postman that had deliverd the letters but yet when i opened the letter it had stated that they had just been out to my home, Grrrrrrrr they do wind me up how they can lie like that do and get away with it. I also noticed that they had increased the amount i owed to over £450, for which i am not happy about. So as i have had trouble with then before, i knew not to ring them etc. So i wrote a nice little letter saying that i wanted a full breakdown of the charges, with dates and times when visits had so to speak occured to my home etc. I also stated that i wasnt refusing to pay but could pay only £20 a mth as thats all that i could afford and explained that i only worked part time and recieved tax credit and that if i was to pay any more, it just wouldnt be an option for me to be able to do within affordable mean's. I also sent a cheque of £20 and sent a copy of the letter to the council.

 

In between me sending this letter and waiting for a reply, i recieved another letter form Lovely Equita, stateing that they had been out to my home and had identfied goods that they will take, and that even though it doesnt cover the whole debt, it will cover some. But how the hell this happend i do not know, because (1) i was in when the postman sent the letter, (2) They have never been let into my home, GOD THEY MAKE SOOOOO ANGRY. Anyway i then got a reply to the letter i sent. The letter was not what i thought. It says

 

Dear Miss Harrs,

 

Further to your recent communication, the content of which has been noted. I write to inform that your case is currently allocated to one of our baififfs. The bailiff is ......... ( they then give his name and number for me to contact him on)

 

You should direct all queries to the bailiff in charge of your case. Should you have already concluded this matter with the bailiff please disregard this letter.

 

Now what the is that all about, they havent told me what they have done with my cheque, they havent even returned it. And they have not sent me the information that i asked with all breakdown of all the charges. Where do i go from here, because i shall not be contacteing the bailiff, well most definatly not by phone because i have been there before and i am far from silly . Now i know that have to send me the information that i requested in regards to my account but they havent. So can i please have some help on where to go from here.

[tomtubby]

Can you start a new thread for this question under the bailiff section.

 

You have posted this in the sticky section.

[sugg1]

Hi ,I am new here and i would like some advice.

 

i have had a letter dropped threw the door from a smiths baliffs wanting oustanding CT of £941 + £24.50 fees for last years CT.

 

I phoned the bailiffs as i have`nt got £966 to be able to pay and i offered to make payments of £100 amonth which the women on the end of the phoned agreed to ,she said she would send out a form for us to show are income and out go`s and then said the bailiff would then come around and speak to us in our house and i said i would no be letting the bailiff in and she in that case you have 7 days to pay the full amount.

 

I also phoned Plymouth city council and explain my suitation and they said they could not do anything as it was with the bailiff now and then went about arranging paying off this years as we are 2 mts behind with that already.

When i asked they guy at the council office how i could afford to pay £100 amonth for this year and then pay the bailiff he said they will have to take in to account that you are paying this years.

 

I will not be letting the bailiff into my house on their return and will proberly not even answer the door ,i have read that they will return the debt to the council.

 

What i need to know is this.

My husband (who name is on the debt) is classed as disabled and has a blue badge and a disabled bay outside our house ,can they take the car away even with him been classed as disabled.

He has a heart problem and also has problems walking ,we are awaiting his war pension and a decision on DLA ,once these are in place we will be in a better position to make larger payments.

 

But until then all we can afford at a real push is £100 at the moment he gets a incap benefit but only a small amount and a naval pension and family credit.

when we applied for CT rebate they said we where over the limit by £3.

 

Any advice would be really gratefull as i am worried sick and don`t know what to do ,we are willing to pay £100 like i say and have the cash here all ready ,but i don`t know if the bailiff will accept it and reading some of the post on here its best to not pay them but pay the council instead ,but if i made payments say via the website then won`t it be taken off this years bill and not the one thats outstanding.

[veryskint01]

Around 2 months ago we had the bayliffs round.Unfortunatly we let them in which i now no was a bad idea.He told me that i had to pay £52 per week i told him that there was no way that i could afford to pay that much.He then said that was the minimum i had to pay and the longest time scale for this payment was 6 months.

I have since made2 payments of £52 but i have recently lost my job and have not been able to make the payments.When he was here he took the details of my car and said if i did not keep up the payments he would take the car as payment for the dept.I payed £8000 for the car 2 years ago and it is still under finance.My outstanding dept for council tax is £1888.I recived a letter today saying i am in breach of the agreement and i have 4 days to pay the dept in full plus any costs incured or they will take the car.what rights do i have now.Please help.

[robin9342]

The bailiff cannot touch the car while it is on finance.

[cmwd]

Hello

1st time being here.. Dose anyone know should a overseas student, only study 15 hours a week and have no income, pay council tax?

Thanks!

[I've got no money]

cmwd - it might be an idea to start your own thread.

 

It sounds like you need some benefits advice - contact the CAB or perhaps the Student Union where you study.

[cmwd]

cmwd - it might be an idea to start your own thread.

 

It sounds like you need some benefits advice - contact the CAB or perhaps the Student Union where you study.

 

 

I've got no money, thanks for your reply. How can I start my own thread?

[I've got no money]

It tells you in the faqs but if you go to the top of the page there is a line of links debt action group bailiffs. Click on debt action group. That then takes you to a page showing the various different forums - I think that benefits type things are probably under the other category. Click on that at the top of the page that then opens is button called new thread - click on that. There is probably a quicker way of doing it but I'm fairly new and don't know it.

[aryansharma]

Thanks buddy...

[39lou39]

Hello i need some advice asap, for council tax arrears. Bailiffs knocked on my door and told me about the council tax i owed. The bailiff gave me a expense form to fill and and send of back to them which i did, i also did not let him in my house. i got a reply saying they would not accept that and told me i needed to pay £65.00 a week which i cannot afford to pay. The next letter i got was a removel of goods letter posted through my door and i rang if and told him that i could not afford to pay the full amount, he was rude and basically he told well i am coming to remove the goods, so told him are you threating me and he put the phone down on me. can anyone give me advice on where do i go from here? the bailiffs have charge me just over £200 for a knock on the door and a removel van. he is also coming back monday

[webbscatering]

Hello i need some advice asap, for council tax arrears. Bailiffs knocked on my door and told me about the council tax i owed. The bailiff gave me a expense form to fill and and send of back to them which i did, i also did not let him in my house. i got a reply saying they would not accept that and told me i needed to pay £65.00 a week which i cannot afford to pay. The next letter i got was a removel of goods letter posted through my door and i rang if and told him that i could not afford to pay the full amount, he was rude and basically he told well i am coming to remove the goods, so told him are you threating me and he put the phone down on me. can anyone give me advice on where do i go from here? the bailiffs have charge me just over £200 for a knock on the door and a removel van. he is also coming back monday

Did you just fill out the means form only or did you send a covering letter with it?

[39lou39]

just a means form only

[webbscatering]

Have looked at the letter on the first page of this thread, try this as well also a visit to the CAB could help. In order to remove the goods they have to be levied first which means allowing entry, but unfortunately if you have no curtains they can look through the windows and levy goods. This can be said for vehicles parked outside the house or on driveways, what did he put down as goods levied,

[39lou39]

Have looked at the letter on the first page of this thread, try this as well also a visit to the CAB could help. In order to remove the goods they have to be levied first which means allowing entry, but unfortunately if you have no curtains they can look through the windows and levy goods. This can be said for vehicles parked outside the house or on driveways, what did he put down as goods levied,

Hi there he did not tell me what goods were levied, did not even give me a break down of what the charges are for till i rang him. if he has levied my goods can he gain entry to my property if i am out and all the doors are locked and the windows? thanks

[postggj]

ime helping a friend with this one

 

can any one tell me how i can check if a baliff is certificated ref council tax

 

i have his name and the baliff company

 

many thanks

[robin9342]

Try sending a PM to Tomtubby. I believe she has access to these records.