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    • Particular's of claim for reference only 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Suggested defence 1. The Defendant contends the particulars of the claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.3 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. The claimant has not complied with paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre action protocol) failed to serve a letter of claim pre claim pursuant to PAPDC changes of the 1st of October 2017. It is respectfully requested that the court take this into consideration pursuant 7.1 PAPDC. 3. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had financial dealings but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification. 4. Paragraph 2 is denied. I have not been served with a default notice pursuant to the consumer credit act 1974. 5. Paragraph 3 is denied. i am unaware of any legal assignment or notice of assignment. A copy of assignment was sent by Overdales solicitors when acknowledgement of receipt of CPR request was received, but this was not the original.   6. Paragraph 4 is denied. Neither the original creditor or the assignee have served notice pursuant to sec86c of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 Notice of Sums in Arrears and therefore prevented from charging interest on debt regulated by the CCA1974. 7. The defendant submitted a request for a copy of the alleged agreement pursuant to s78 CCA 1974. The claimant has acknowledged receipt of request but has failed to comply. The claimant has failed to provide any evidence of balance or Default Notice requested by CPR 31.14 8. It is therefore denied with regards to defendant owing any monies to the claimant. therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to:  a.  Show how the defendant has entered into an agreement with HSBC. b.  Show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a Default notice pursuant to section 87 (1) CCA 1974. c.  Show and quantify how the defendant has reached the amount claimed for. d.  Show how the claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity  to issue a claim. 8.  As per civil procedure rule 16.5 (4) it is expected claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 9.  Until such time the claimant can comply to a section 78 request he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.     .
    • OK, well rereading the court orders from March, in the cold light of day rather than when knackered late at night, it is quite clear that on 25 June there will only be a preliminary hearing about Laura representing her son.  Nothing more. It's lazy DCBL who haven't read things properly and have stupidly sent their Witness Statement early. Laura & I had already been working on a WS, and here it is.  It needs tweaking now after reading the rubbish that DCBL sent and after all of LFI's comments.  But the "meat" is there. Defendant's WS - version 1.pdf
    • Morning, I purchased a car from Big Motoring World on 10th December 2023 for £14899.00. On the 15th December I had a problem with the auto start stop function of the car in which the car would stop in the middle of the road with a stop start error message. I called the big assist and the car was booked in for February. The BMW was with them for a week and it came back with the auto stop start feature all fine and all error codes cleared on the report from big motoring world. within 5 days I had the same issue. Warning light coming on and the car stopping. I called big assist again and the car was again booked in for an other repair in May. Car was taken back in may, they had the car for a week and returned with the report saying no issue with the auto stop start feature and blamed my driving. Within 5 days of having the car back it broke down again. This time undrivable. I had the rac pick my car up and take to Stephen James BMW for a full diagnostic. The diagnostic came back with the car needing a new fuel system as magnetic swarf was found.  I have sent big motoring world a letter stating all the issues and that under the consumer rights act 2015 I have asked for a replacement vehicle. all reports from Stephen James BMW have been sent over to big motoring world. Big motoring world have come back and said they will respond to my complaint within 14 days for the date of my complaint letter. I am not feeling confident on the response from them, what are my next steps?   Thanks in advance. 
    • That is really good is that a mistake last off "driver doesn't have a licence" I assume that should be keeper? The Court requested me to send the Court and applicant proof of my sons disability from their GP this clearly shows he has Severe Mental Impairement, he is also illiterate.  I naively assumed once the applicant received this that they would drop the claim.  It offends me that Bank has asked the Judge to throw the case out at the preliminary hearing and to make us pay up.
    • Hi, we are looking to get some opinions on weather or not to bother fighting this PCN. This comes from a very big retail park parking where there are restaurants, hotel, amongst other businesses. The parking is free but I suppose there must be a time limit on it that I am not aware of. We were in the area for around 4 hours. Makes us wonder how they deal with people staying in the hotel as the ANPR is on what appears to be a publicly maintained street (where london buses run) which leads to the different parking areas including the hotel.  1 Date of the infringement 26/05/2024 2 Date on the NTK  31/05/2024 3 Date received 07/06/2024 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]  YES 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Entry and exit photos however, based on the photographs we are almost sure the photos are taken on public street. This is the location I believe photos are taken from.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/eii8zSmFFhVZDRpbA 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A 7 Who is the parking company? UKPA. UK Parking Administration LTD 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] The Colonnades, Croydon, CR0 4RQ For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. British Parking Association (BPA) Thanks in advance for any assistance.  UKPA PCN The Collonades-redacted.pdf
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Well, well. Looky here at what I've found.

 

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Now, are the initials CF too much of a coincidence? Could this be a site set up by a disgruntled employee? Or is it likely to be a bit of a honey trap to feed us misinformation? Is it even related to our "friends" at all?

 

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I think I shall bookmark it and keep checking back later. If there is going to be any whistleblowing going on, I want to know about it. :D

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If this is who I think it is then things are going to get interesting. If I can help out just PM me Mr cfel.eu there are people here who need to hear from you directly or indirectly.

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Well, well. Looky here at what I've found.

 

- Home

 

Now, are the initials CF too much of a coincidence? Could this be a site set up by a disgruntled employee? Or is it likely to be a bit of a honey trap to feed us misinformation? Is it even related to our "friends" at all?

 

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I think I shall bookmark it and keep checking back later. If there is going to be any whistleblowing going on, I want to know about it. :D

 

 

Should be interesting developments there!!! :D

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I notice that currently is just says:

 

"Conjured Fictitious Economical Lies" :D

 

Also I note that it's just me and 3 guests reading this thread right now. Hello, guests! Do register and say hi :p

  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hi, ho

Hi, ho,

It's off to court we go.

 

Or we will be if Cabot don't sort this out today. Which of course, they won't. So court it is, then. I'm off down there this morning to find out exactly what I need to do. ;)

 

Willem Wellinghoff

The Cabot Financial Group of Companies

10 Kings Hill Avenue

Kings Hill

West Malling

Kent ME19 4LT

 

Dear Mr Wellinghoff,

 

Your Reference: XXXXXXXX

Dear Mr Wellinghoff,

Please accept this final letter from me in the spirit that it is intended; a last chance for your group of companies to end this ridiculous charade once and for all.

Irrespective of the nonsense that you and your colleagues have sent to me in the past purporting to be your position in this matter, the simple fact remains that Cabot Financial (UK) Limited have yet again purchased an account from Barclaycard which, with respect, you should never have been sold. The reason I say this is due to the fact that I have finally managed to get Barclaycard to send me all the data that they say they hold.

To clarify matters, let me set things down in simple terms:

  • Barclaycard have sent me statements from 2001, with an opening balance of over £3,000. A figure I contest.
  • There is nothing to support their claim that this amount is accurate.
  • They have sent no other documentation other than statements, and state that no other data is on file. (Obviously we know that to be untrue, as your company managed to get a copy of my application form.)
  • Therefore Cabot Financial (UK) Limited have been sold an account that, had due diligence been exercised, would clearly be suspect as to the accuracy of any data supplied.
  • No default notice was supplied with the documentation whatsoever.
  • As Barclaycard are unable to prove that the final defaulted amount was accurate, Barclaycard should never have defaulted me in the first place.

Further, you must surely acknowledge, even if only to yourself, that by now it is evident that there never was an agreement signed, and that the application form that you insist meets the criteria of an agreement regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 is exactly what it was intended to be; a pre-contractual application for credit. Nothing more, nothing less. And as such, is totally unenforceable AT ALL.

Further, as no agreement was ever signed then obviously Barclaycard would have been well aware that any debt would have been unenforceable should their claim to repayments been challenged. If you will excuse the vernacular, it is my belief that Cabot Financial (UK) Limited has been “stitched up” by Barclaycard. Not just in my case, but very likely in the case of thousands (at least) of others.

On that basis, a calculation of what was paid to Barclaycard erroneously, and taking a monthly average to project back for the period that Barclaycard are unable to produce statements for, leads me to the conclusion that far from having owed Barclaycard anything at the time they sold the account, Barclaycard would actually have owed me somewhere in the region of £2,500. This being a very conservative figure.

You should also be aware that I now consider your statement that Cabot Financial (UK) Limited does not acquire the duties of the original lender to have some basis in truth, if what I have read from Mr Glen Crawford recently is to be believed. In which case, it is my belief that the assignment of my account must have been equitable. Therefore any legal action that you might have taken in relation to this account would need to have been brought jointly by Cabot Financial (UK) Limited and Barclaycard. That being the case, I see no reason why I should not take a similar course if I need to instigate legal proceedings, and name both Cabot Financial (UK) Limited and Barclaycard in any action that I take.

However, as a goodwill gesture, I am prepared to offer a concession before I take such a drastic step. If “Cabot” drops their claim in this matter, cease processing my data, and remove all adverse information that has been registered with all credit reference agencies, I am prepared to take no further action. Please note that this offer will not be repeated, and is conditional upon acceptance being emailed to me no later than close of business today, Thursday 4 October 2007. Failing that, I shall have no alternative other than to take whatever legal route is open to me, without any further warning.

Yours Sincerely,

Seahorse

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Poor Willem is off until the 15th. Would I please wait until he returns for a response.

 

Let me think...

 

NO! :lol:

And I thought you may have calmed down a little, silly me pmsl.

Glad to see you are still on form enaid xx

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Willie is following in his masters footsteps I see - I hope he's a better orator than he is a legal buff :

 

Quote Credit Today flyer

 

"There's only eight weeks to go to Collections/Debt Sale & Purchase 07, on 28 & 29 November and we’ve confirmed key creditors to come and share their experiences with delegates including:.......

....to download the latest full programme which includes key highlights such as:

 

A discussion of the ethical issues issues behind mis-tracing debtors, from panel experts including Kurt Obermaier, Executive Director of the Consumer Services Association (CSA)

 

 

What is sure to be a lively panel debate on the changing face of debtors, focusing on the shift in debtor behaviour, led by Mike Sargeant, National Manager of Client Services at KPMG

 

 

Coverage of the vital facts behind the latest regulation updates in the debt sale & purchase sector and, most importantly, how they could affect your business. Willem Wellinghoff, Assistant Legal Counsel at Cabot Financial, is the latest confirmed panellist

 

 

How to value a portfolio - explored in practical terms from the point of view of both a seller and a purchaser - with Bruce Curry, Collections & Recovery Business Consultant at Fair Isaac International, a new addition to the panel" unquote

 

 

 

Good ole Willie, must help with the promotional prospects :grin:

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Well, they referred it to their company solicitors, who say it's impossible, and unreasonable, to peruse my file within my timeframe.

 

Since they've had 10 months to sort this out, I don't think I'll be extending the deadline. So who's being unreasonable here?

 

No more Mr Nice Guy :D

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Well, they referred it to their company solicitors, who say it's impossible, and unreasonable, to peruse my file within my timeframe.

 

Since they've had 10 months to sort this out, I don't think I'll be extending the deadline. So who's being unreasonable here?

 

No more Mr Nice Guy :D

 

 

I reckon you have been patient enough!!

 

They'd not wait this length of time if they were about to file against you would they? You'd have been given days only - they have been given time and rope to deal with it. Any Judge will see that you've been reasonable.

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Well, well. Looks like word of my blog has spread to the right places. 220 pages visited (I assume multiple times as there aren't 220 pages in it) by non other than the IP address of Nikko Investments' London offices.

 

Harro there, Nikko. Did you discover anything interesting? Did anything take you by surprise? No? I thought not. ;)

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I got a complaint off to the ICO and the CSA at the weekend. The CSA were quick off the mark... reply by email this morning, complaint referred to Cabot, and she'll get back to me when they hear anything.

 

I'm not expecting miracles, but MAYBE Cabot would prefer to sort this out without having to go to court. Just in case though, I have my small claims form ready to drop into Aberdeen sheriff court to see if that will make them comply with my s10 statutory demand. Do they REALLY think they can just ignore the DPA and get away with it?

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Keep at 'em Seahorse – nice new avatar you have there btw – ooo and what’s that I see, a new “greenie” – I wonder where you got that from;)

Had to post somewhere quick coz if I stay in the Bear Garden I will be forever on 666 posts:D

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