Should we trust Sunak or the next PM to fix the Country's problems? (title revised 24/10/22)

[honeybee13]

An article on the NAO report.

Unlawful Rwanda Scheme Set to Cost UK 'Staggering' £500 Million, National Audit Office Reveals – Byline Times

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With the Government refusing to say how much the controversial asylum plan would cost, MPs commissioned the NAO to produce its own report

[unclebulgaria67]

Rwanda Is apparently the first of many places Government want to send migrants, but if they are going to cost billions collectively, then you wonder whether the money could be better spent. Other countries have the same issue and have larger numbers of migrants to deal with.

Surely it would better for UK and other Governments to collaborate on more effective border controls closer to where the migrants start their journeys. More work done to tackle the people traffickers. Asylum Centres based in safe countries closer to where migrants are escaping from.

[honeybee13]

I agree with you, UB. At a cost of a million or more per asylum seeker, it isn't sounding cost-effective.

I think the sticking point in your suggestion could be the collaboration bit. Exceptionalism doesn't make that easy.

[theoldrouge]

23 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

So @theoldrouge

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism including extreme antisemitism from the extremist republican right

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism from the extremist Tory right including their London mayor candidate

We've seen you support far right candidates long associated with antisemitism as well as other forms of racism

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism and violence by the British far right EDL yobs (who are renowned for antisemitism as well as other racism) .. including outrageous EDL violent attempts to desecrate the cenotaph itself .. where no pro peace marchers went.

Even your support of Israeli atrocities seems only based on hate and not actual reasonable defense of Israel.

 

I'm struggling to understand how anyone other than a Racist extremist EDL supporter - with all the antisemitic and racist hate long associated with that group and its ilk - temporarily using the cover of hate of Muslims to stream bile, hate and division could do that?

 

How do you explain that?

So Sunak has finally grown half a pair and is desperately trying to follow Suella’s advice
As he has belatedly discovered the Left are attempting to subvert democracy 
Meanwhile following the result in Rochdale 
Starmer has been exposed and is looking like a frightened rabbit in the headlights 
He has for months proclaimed that he has changed the Labour Party only to discover that the candidate that he chose for Rochdale only lasted 48hours into the campaign before he came out with anti Semitic racial abuse 
Yet again the mob that you clearly support Jugg is to demonstrate in London and elsewhere 
Let us hope with Sunaks apparent backing the police get stuck in instead of acting like stewards 

[tobyjugg2]

Saw the announcement of Sunaks speech with rumors it was around extremism affecting guv ..

thought eyup, surely hes not properly sacking anderson, braverman, truss and the other extremist hate mongering nut jobs

 

.. and of course he didn't - just waffled a bit, apparently about his party being a threat to democracy, and went back in

 

So @theoldrouge @TheEDLrouge

going to even condemn the edl/far right who attempted to attack and desecrate the cenotaph yet? or just continue your cowardly avoidence?

let alone condemn the rabid antisemitic far right Pals of Trumpy

 

 

Rwanda - 1.8 million pounds per trafficked human being - the other criminal traffickers must be green with envy at the fees Rwanda are getting from the british taxpayer via the corrupt Tories - the only green coming out of this corrupt cronyistic government.

£1.8 million per individual deportee - offer 1/10th or 1/100th that as an incentive and there would be queues around the block and they would actually leave .. with a smile on their faces.

Why is this guv paying Rwanda 100s million of UK taxpayer money for nothing more than the most expensive racist dog whistle in history?

Edited March 2 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

As @theEDLrouge hero truss 'mingles' with Nazis promoting her book

Liz Truss attended US conference where ‘Nazis mingled openly’

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Liz Truss made a speech at the far-right conference plugging her new book

 

Sunak says to wife - look at the profits Fujitsu have made for duff software and shafting a few thousand british plebs via a few bullies and lawyers - we should grab some of that - especially in the highly profitable British fossil fuels sector

In 25 years time when some paper does a report, we can just say - we'll give them a bit of money as long as you give us loads more contracts .. then drag it out for decades more ..... win win win

 

Rishi Sunak's wife's firm Infosys received 50% boost in public sector invoices in 2023

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LBC has exclusively learned that Indian tech giant Infosys, in which Rishi Sunak's wife is a shareholder, received a near-50% increase in public sector...

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/31/infosys-uk-tax-dispute

 

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/indian-corporation-pays-record-34-million-fine-settle-allegations-systemic-visa-fraud

 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

The Tory Legacy

Whats on the UP - taxation, debt and deficit, energy costs, immigration, cronyism, NHS waiting lists and food bank use

Whats on the down - living standards, Growth and Trade, Roads, Hospitals and schools

 

* Taxation at the highest level since WWII

* the national debt (the sum of every annual shortfall) has steadily risen from 64.7% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2010 to 96.5% currently – the highest level since the 1960s.

* UK goods trade has fallen 15% below the G7 since Brexit

* The UK's trend rate of economic growth has fallen from 3.4% a year in the postwar period up to 1973, to 2.3% up to the 2008 financial crisis, to just 1.2% in the years since. Tory austerity for the masses - riches for the few.

* GDP per capita barely above pre-Covid levels, at just 4% above the mid-2016 level VS 8% in the eurozone and 15% for the US.

* Business investment in the UK economy lags behind the G7

* IPPR thinktank estimates the UK has underinvested to the tune of half a trillion pounds. Most visible in crumbling schools, hospitals and infrastructure, it argues this lack of investment is behind key reasons for lacklustre productivity gains.

 

A legacy of mismanagement and wasteful cronyism

The Conservatives’ economic record since 2010 in 10 charts | Budget 2024 (spring) | The Guardian

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From a huge budget deficit to weak GDP and a record rise in tax, we look at the background to the Tory budget

 

 

[honeybee13]

Dan Neidle has written about Angela Rayner's CGT problem. He's the man who outed Zahawi who also gets a mention.

https://archive.is/G9If2

 

[tobyjugg2]

Not a patch a zahawi or sunaks wife or MOST of the conservative MPs and pals eh? is she let alone Sunak himselfs tax avoidance and tax havens - despite Tories and shills claiming otherwise.

.. or Sunaks (Indian) family company getting massive government contracts since he's been at the top - and NOT before.

or the PPE pals who shunted millions of profit from taxpayers into tax havens

A simple misunderstanding re the house she bought and lived in for years before allowing a family member to use it rent free and then simply selling it. .. with nothing hidden or routed via tax havens.

 

Shows a lot that the poops and their shills have to jump on something as simple and basically honest as this while excusing the enormous corruptions of their Tory MPs and Pals eh?

 

[honeybee13]

Economist William Keegan's take on next week's budget.

Jeremy Hunt knows Brexit Britain can’t afford to cut taxes | William Keegan | The Guardian

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The chancellor is prepared to inflict yet more austerity to pay for a budget bribe. But the UK needs more spending, not less

 

[tobyjugg2]

doesn't matter. Everything hunt promises will either be paid for after the GE, or if they win, munged into unrecognisability to give 'get out of paying loopholes' to their doners and rich pals ..  or just dropped.

No doubts on that whatsoever

 

They are just stripping the final assets of the country for themselves and their pals who will give them well paid seats on the boards for doing nowt more than they've already done for their pals

Corrupt to their core - especially the new 'red wall' tories whos snouts were straight at the trough.

Why has that latest corrupt trough-meister Scott Benson not been arrested rather than just a suspension from parliament

- sounds like fraud, bribery, racketeering and a clear case of abuse of public office to me.

 

 

[theoldrouge]

Seems every one is agreeing that your rankings and fake confection are just thatJugg
 

Why does the Left consider it Islamophobic to want to expel the cancer of extremism from Britain? asks former Immigration Minister ROBERT JENRICK

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Just this week we saw the strength of the alliance between the hard-Left and Islamists on full display, with George...

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Going by the discussions in this thread, I am guessing there may be a General Election coming up

 

[honeybee13]

When though, UB?

[unclebulgaria67]

 My prediction is that the General Election will be first week of July.  Mid Summer, with older more Conservative voters more willing to go out and University students on break. So possibly best time of year for current Government.

Some are saying May, because the migration number stats are due to be issued end of May and they are expected to confirm highest net migration on record.

I don't think they will leave it until the Autumn

 

[honeybee13]

Also in May there are local elections that aren't expected to go well.

I don't think I remember a GE in July, won't people be away on holiday?

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Schools break up third week in July. But I think the election will be first Thursday in July.

The Tories will want a longer campaign period, because they will want to give plenty of time for Labours plans and candidates to be fully scrutinised by media and public. So it would not surprise me if the election in July was called as early as beginning of May after local elections on 2nd of May.

[honeybee13]

Peter Stefanovic on Sunak's speech on Friday and Lee Anderson's remarks.

 

[honeybee13]

Bridgen's estranged wife says he was captured by the anti-vax brigade.

My MP husband Andrew Bridgen was captured by antivax ‘cult’

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The opera singer Nevena Bridgen lived a glamorous life attending high-profile events and rubbing shoulders with prime ministers. But then, she says, her...

https://archive.is/RXyRs

[theoldrouge]

14 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

When though, UB?

Just after the first plane takes off to Rwanda
 

Bill will pass by Easter break 
Sunak will ignore the ECHR 
Election early summer 

[tobyjugg2]

That the edl view? @theEDLrouge.

Gotta be wrong then. Ready to condemn your antisemitic right wing republicans yet?

 

First point, and its a lulu:  Rwanda have quite clearly stated they will NOT break international law - even if the sunak is happy to try

.. dont need any other points really - although there are many - like the UK still accepting asylum seekers fleeing Rwanda - oops.

[tobyjugg2]

2 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Bridgen's estranged wife says he was captured by the anti-vax brigade.

My MP husband Andrew Bridgen was captured by antivax ‘cult’

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The opera singer Nevena Bridgen lived a glamorous life attending high-profile events and rubbing shoulders with prime ministers. But then, she says, her...

https://archive.is/RXyRs

LOL

sat in a chair with eyes held open being braincell washed (just the one) watching movies about large syringes going into tender places (well he is a complete @***)

- shades of clockwork orange

 

.. although to be fairer than warranted, even he had enough working braincells to quickly see that re-de-form was far to whack-job even for him.

Edited March 4 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Alternatively, A man who does understand  ..

“poison of antisemitism and Islamophobia is infecting British politics”

'a concerted and growing attempt by some to degrade and humiliate minorities for political and electoral gain'

 

Sadiq Khan claims antisemitism and Islamophobia is infecting UK politics

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Sadiq Khan alleged that the past few weeks had seen 'a concerted and growing attempt by some to degrade and humiliate minorities for political...

 

[tobyjugg2]

CofE seeks others to pay for its part in profiting from slavery ..

 

The Church Commissioners have “embraced a target of £1bn”, according to the report ..

with £10m a year from the churches £10B slavery linked fund and the rest from ... 'not the CofE'

 

C of E hoping to create £1bn fund to address legacy of slavery | Anglicanism | The Guardian

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Church plan to seek co-investors for fund comes after advisers said £100m originally earmarked did not reflect scale of ‘moral sin’

 

[tobyjugg2]

UK Conservatives' support lowest in 46 years in new poll

An Ipsos poll put support for the Conservatives, in power for 14 years, at 20% at the end of February, down seven percentage points in a month, with the opposition Labour Party on 47%.

 

It was the lowest support Ipsos had recorded for the Conservatives since at least 1978, when it began regularly tracking support for the main parties.

The previous low was 22% in 1994, when John Major was Conservative prime minister

 

reuters.com

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