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And still the dismal bleating fake outrage from the left despite the fact that Anderson made no racist comment,unlike that Labour Party meeting in Rochdale which was packed to the rafters with true racists
 

Sectarian politics has arrived in the country 
( I will also be dealing with the hypocrisy of Rayner in due course )
 

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Shouldn't that be Racist Anderson, who refuses to apologise for his racist outburst(s)

See, I believe racism is racism - no hierarchy antisemite, anti-muslim, whatever - they are all hate mongering racists

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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oh and lets not forget

 

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Marshall reportedly liked posts calling for mass deportations and predicting a civil war between "native Europeans" and "fake refugee invaders."

 

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Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Forget the economy, forget any other issue 
this  subject will dominate the GE
 

"The truth is that Lee speaks for millions of people who are appalled by what is happening to our country. Between them, this gutless government and the Mayor of London appear to have lost control of our streets. The projecting of a vile antisemitic slogan on our Houses of Parliament last week is a shocking illustration of the breakdown of law and order.
 

 

 

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On 24/02/2024 at 18:08, theoldrouge said:

fake outrage

 

Ready to condemn your right wing heroes racism and anti-semitism yet @theoldrouge

Surely its not just convenient fake outrage when it suites your right wing agenda?

 

Perhaps start with pound shop powell here

and move on to horrible anti-semite supporters trumpy and Taylor Green sleeves in the US thread

 

whats up - ashamed?

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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3 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

snake oil falsely claiming millions support racist Anderson who is actually set to lose his seat

- millions ROFL - claimed by Tice (rofl) - apparently based on A letter from A (alleged) constituent of one of the other 'red wall' MPs also about to lose their seat lol ..

.. Whether or not he/they jump to redephorm

Even bonkers Bridgen quickly found them to be unpalatable didn't he ?

Ready to condemn racism including anti-semitism by your heroes yet @theoldrouge ?

... Didn't think so.

For info

“metropolitan elite”, Richard Tice is a multi-millionaire CEO of the Mayfair-based asset management company Quidnet Capital Partners LLP. Grandson of the hugely successful property developer Bernard Sunley, Tice was born in Surrey and attended Uppingham School, a public boarding school, of which he is currently the Vice Chair.

Anyway

On to more a more positive aspect of very negative stuff

Sweden passes the final hurdle (Hungary's right wing guv) to become the 32nd member of NATO and ending 200 years of neutrality and for the first time in 500 years the Nordic nations have a shared defense - all in the face of Russian aggression bringing Europe again to the brink of all out war.

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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The real story of @theoldrouge's  'millions' ROFLMAO Anderson support .... of actually a handful from the wing nut CDO group which includes none torys (aka yucky lemonites and notlords nads?)

"The CDO was created in December 2022 by the Tory donor and Johnson supporter Peter Cruddas and contains members of the party and non-members. It has had high-profile support from senior Tory politicians on the right, with Priti Patel, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Nadine Dorries addressing its conference last May."

 

'Several Conservative MPs said on Monday they would like to see Anderson readmitted to their ranks if he apologised for his remarks. '

'Several group members endorsed Anderson’s comments and expressed similar sentiments.'

'Another group member denounced Sunak as “weak and feeble"'

Multiple activists expressed support for Suella Braverman, the former home secretary, who wrote last week that “the Islamists, the extremists and the antisemites are in charge now”

One CDO member said: “She is saying the exact same thing as Lee Anderson, just in less colourful language, and importantly in print. (In a screenshot seen by the Guardian, this message was liked by 10 group members.)

One group member shared a link to a “Lee Anderson Appreciation Group”

 

WOW thats possibly as many as a dozen

... maybe even 15 at a push if you include the ones who also require an apology from 30PeeLee

 

.. excuse me briefly (sic) folks - just laughed so much I spat coffee everywhere - need to clean keyboard

.. and back to post the link

 

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Exclusive: activists endorse Anderson’s comments and decry ‘threat of Islam’ in leaked messages

 

Darn - read it again -

 

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Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Absolutely nothing to condemn 
Absolutely nothing racist in what Anderson said 
unlike at the Labour Party meeting in Rochdale 
 

meanwhile as promised we turn to Ms Rayner
Has she paid her CGT on the sale 
No didn’t think so
And Jugg has the brass neck to moan about Tory sleaze and corruption 
Possible deputy PM mired in slurry
 

Pressure is mounting for her to face a police probe into whether she provided false information about her living circumstances before she sold her house.
 

 

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Stepping away from racist anderson and his supporter (or three) for a moment .. onto a bigger whack job.

 

Cabbage patch failed PM Truss claims

“rigged against conservative policies” after 13 years of Tory rule, crony ennoblement and enrichment, and pledge breaking on their stated  policies

her populist policies are resisted because they are unpopular .. despite being popular

ministers were 'constantly being stymied' - presumably by being thrown out due to their abuses and incompetence

 

Liz is right. We had an 80 seat majority, stuffed the House of Lords with Tories, installed our mates at the BBC, Ofcom, Ofgem etc and of course have most of the papers in our pockets, but somehow the system is stacked against us.
 
 

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Back to racist 5th columnist 30PeeLee

Alongside calls for expulsion and by-election (hes going to jump anyway after causing max damage)

- notGBNews is already paying him more than his MP pay isnt it?

but how long will that last when hes lost his seat eh?

 

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Lee Anderson admitted on Monday his original remarks were ‘clumsy’, but said saying sorry ‘would be a sign of weakness’.

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Again briefly stepping away from racist 5th columnist GBNews employee

- while claiming MP money 30PeeLee 

(really spoiled for choice from the bottom of barrel syndrome poopcons but:)

 

Secretary of State for Trashing UK Trade Baden-ouch

(as originally appointed by Failed PM 'Lettuce Liz' Truss) :

allegedly:

not (yet) as unpopular as the Popular Conservatives, 

not as determined to return to the 1950s as the New Conservatives or the 18th century as Rees mogg

not (yet) as plain crazy as the Common Sense Conservatives

A true believer in the Brexit that has devastated our exports, businesses and quality of life and brought record immigration. Promoter of dead in the water trade deals with USA and India, plus 'continuing' Canadian deal negotiations to the bafflement of the actual Canadians who are clear that the whole thing is dead  ... and of course a really crappy TPP deal which adds 5,000 miles of transport costs to every item rather than supporting UK farming and industry.

 

additionally:

"Sunak in real difficulty over the Post Office Horizon scandal and Kemi Badenoch's fast-unravelling wild accusations. Starmer asks him to stand by or disavow her claims. He does neither. "

Between Baderouch and  Staunton, "it is interesting to note who the sub-postmasters seem to trust, and it ain’t Badenoch."

 

But then again, she does have a:

" predilection for tweeting before thinking.  It got her into trouble over HuffPost journalist Nadine White where she made some serious personal attacks which do not look good on a re-read, it has happened with her obviously unthought-through tweets about Henry Staunton and yet again with this war or words with Canada. The inability to think before tweeting is not a good sign at all, albeit the potential fun we could all have watching her dig endless holes as Tory leader might make it quite fun to watch…."

 

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Badenoch is in pole position to become next Tory leader - will they live to regret it? Her antics this week suggest they might.
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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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I see 30PeeLee is still threatening to jump to Reform as well as refusing to simply apologise.

 

only worthwhile answer is Pee off then 30PeeLee

Bringing the pary into disrepute ROFL - recall and by-election if sunak had a pair

Seems to me GBNews is paying him - hes just stealing from the taxpayer

 

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Tory suspended over comments about Sadiq Khan would be populist party’s first MP if he joined

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Scott Benton MP welcomes Conservative Government Times crackdown on fraudsters that has cut fraud by 4.3 per cent in Lancashire

- and thats just him ...

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Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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So much for protecting our borders - Guv all just dog whistles

 

Office for the Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration to have budget slashed - Neal

The Office for the Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration will have its budget cut by five per cent year on year, David Neal has revealed, Holly Bancroft reports.

Mr Neal is giving evidence to the Home Affairs Committee in a one-off session on immigration after being sacked by James Cleverly.

The home secretary said Mr Neal had “breached the terms of appointment and lost the confidence of the home secretary” after Mr Neal warned of “dangerous” failings by border force that he claimed were allowing “high-risk” aircraft to land in Britain without security checks.

The Home Office had “categorically rejected” the claims, saying that Mr Neal “has chosen to put misleading data into the public domain”.

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Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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So no reply as yet from the slurry pit containing the foul mouthed Rayner
Did she defraud HMRC or abuse the right to buy scheme or lie to the electoral commission?
or perhaps all the above 
 

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Exclusive: Woman says central party paid £15,000 for her private health care but did not investigate her allegation against MP

 

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Household are facing a £100 hike in council tax bills, despite a £600m Government funding boost

So much for any tax cuts eh?

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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I see Gove is appeasing Tory backbench landlords with the corrupt cronyistic Tories 475th (roughly) betrayal of promises and powering profits for Pals

Gove defends landlords after campaigners criticise his proposals to water down bill banning no-fault evictions

"of course I listen to landlords"

The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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So whilst we await any attempt by Rayner to offer any credible explanation or indeed pay her CGT
 

Sunak has belatedly realised that the Left headed and abetted by Starmer and his cohorts is attempting to subvert democracy 
 

Yet another example,as if more were needed 
more of your mates in action eh Jugg 
 

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Well @theoldrouge

You raged at a now ex labour candidate spouting a little conspiracy in private, which wasn't racisim, and for which he very cleary apologised - and was booted out

 

While we await your NOT condemning republican gross antisemitic racism ...

 

How about condemning

* Actual racism and conspiracy theories - NOT in private, but broadcast

* add to that targeting a UK public figure

* add to that not only NOT apologising, but actually repeating the false accusations again and again

* and no penalties let alone booting out as the Tory poop-extremist candidate 

 

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Party chair also calls on Susan Hall to commit not to use further ‘anti-Muslim hatred’ in campaign against Sadiq Khan

 

and everyone knows who is attempting to fiddle elections, as stated by one of your heroes

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The Tory MP appeared to describe voter ID as an attempt to influence electoral outcomes, when speaking at the National Conservatism...

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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Whilst we wait for Rayner to pay her CGT , maybe a long wait
we see yet more confected outrage from Jugg

as yet

More than five months on from the start of the pro-Palestine marchers’ vile, racist, antisemitic and Jewphobic antics, we have yet to hear the Mayor of London call the movement what it is: Jewphobic, antisemitic hatred and racist. … This speaks volumes. It shouldn’t be hard to call out behaviour that is so unambiguously ignorant, prejudiced and racist. Yet those at the top of the Labour Party in London are stubbornly refusing to do so. It’s a tacit endorsement of antisemitic hatred and can only lead to the conclusion that anti-Jewish bigotry and racism are not taken seriously. 

 

 

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While some whine that people have the temerity and gall to buy their council house (Thatchers scheme) ... and ignore racism when it suites their extremist idiotology  (oops tylpo)

 

Expecting budget Tax 'relief' from the Torys? LOL 

Under the highest tax burden since WWII : Tory Freezes to personal tax parameters alone will reduce households’ income by £1,250 on average by 2025–26.  - IFS

 

The biggest personal tax change (increase) actually involves no change at all: the Chancellor has stated he will continue to freeze the income tax personal allowance at £12,570 – instead of uprating them in line with last September’s inflation figure of 10.1 per cent. 

- thats effectively over £125 quid EACH FROM low income basic rate taxpayers this year alone - before he starts

 

These thresholds have now been frozen since 2021-22, and are set to remain frozen until April 2028. That six-year freeze is set to  cost the taxpayer £25 billion (plus) by 2027-28 – almost triple the £9 billion forecast when it was announced in March 2021 and extended by a further two years in the 2022 Autumn Statement.

Thats a £25+ billion pound stealth tax hitting the poorest hardest  - while the richest get away with tax avoidance in additional to the increased heating costs, water company tax ,energy company profiteering and massively increasing council tax

.. Well, the taxpayers got to pay the interest on the money they gave their VIPals somehow eh?

 

Even 'Conservative MPs are pressuring Jeremy Hunt to take more people out of paying income tax by raising the personal allowance tax threshold – but the Chancellor seems only focused only on cutting headline rates of tax

A Treasury source said it was “too expensive” to raise the personal allowance before people start paying tax from £12,570

Thresholds were frozen by Rishi Sunak as chancellor in 2021."

 

and lets not forget another stealth tax on top of income/council/water tax:

Insurance Premium Tax sees people paying an average of £67 per year extra for their motor insurance, research from the Association of British Insurers shows.

The ABI, which is calling on the Chancellor to cut the levy ahead of the Spring Budget, said its research revealed that 67 per cent of people said they have little or no knowledge of IPT, while half had no idea how the tax impacts their insurance costs. 

 

Just part of the Tory legacy - the highest tax burden since WWII

 

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Raising the income tax personal allowance is 'too expensive' at present, a Treasury source says

 

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The drop in civil inquiries by fraud unit sparks criticism that the authority’s use of its powers of enforcement are waning

 

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We show the impact of freezes and gradual roll-outs on personal taxes and benefits, as well as considering planned changes to the tax system.

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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3 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

More than five months on from the start of the ..

Pro peace/anti war/anti-atrocity marches which included many Jewish protestors carrying banners (as previously linked)  decrying the atrocities of Israel and the IDF such as

'Not in my name'

'Never again to ANY people'

 

Although a very small handful of unconscionable Hamas supporters were among the many MANY thousands of pro peace protestors, even they displayed nothing like the hatred and violence demonstrated by the 100 or so far right rabble who attacked police, tried to attack the peaceful protestors and then attempted to violently breach the cenotaph itself.

The pro peace/end atrocities in Palestine protests have remained largely peaceful despite ongoing atrocities by the state of Israel and the IDF.

 

Even today, unarmed starving civilians in a supposedly safe camp in Gaza were murdered by shelling and bombing from afar by Israeli forces, while violent Israeli settlers have forcefully deposed more Palestians from their homes and lands on the west bank with the aide and support of Israeli military forces - just as the Israeli forces are forcibly relocating civilians in Gaza with even more horrors, atrocities and violence.

These atrocities by the IDF in Gaza include starvation, forced relocation, bombing homes, health centers and refugee camps, denying food water and medical support, murdering journalists and health workers and the mass murder of women and children  .. are growing alarmingly and horribly reminiscent of some of the similar but wider scale utterly monstrous genocidal atrocities by Nazis on the Jewish people, which makes these actions by Israel and the IDF even more unconscionable and deplorable.

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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So @theoldrouge

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism including extreme antisemitism from the extremist republican right

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism from the extremist Tory right including their London mayor candidate

We've seen you support far right candidates long associated with antisemitism as well as other forms of racism

We've seen you ignore calls to condemn racism and violence by the British far right EDL yobs (who are renowned for antisemitism as well as other racism) .. including outrageous EDL violent attempts to desecrate the cenotaph itself .. where no pro peace marchers went.

Even your support of Israeli atrocities seems only based on hate and not actual reasonable defense of Israel.

 

I'm struggling to understand how anyone other than a Racist extremist EDL supporter - with all the antisemitic and racist hate long associated with that group and its ilk - temporarily using the cover of hate of Muslims to stream bile, hate and division could do that?

 

How do you explain that?

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

“This is specifically not allowed. Mr. Mansour used to be a Cabinet Minister in Egypt, he has given the Tories a huge amount of money, and immediately gets a knighthood.

That seems straightforwardly corrupt.  Shouldn’t they both be in jail?”

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