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Can a person pay a bailiff to come to your house if it haven't been in court?

 

I realise that we should have asked for the breakdown

,which I intend to do when first payment is made as I'm scared to rock any boats!

 

The reason why my husband hasn't asked is because every time he rang the man on the other end would say

'I know you are vulnerable but I'm not listening' '

I'll take your stuff and come back for more

' 'my team can be there in minutes and your furniture and car will be gone'

 

It's fair to say we were bloody petrified...

..just to get him off our back was a relief.

 

If I have to say one thing about him

he does his job well as he scared the living daylights out of us

and even now at the thought I cry..

..I know it sounds pathetic but I consider myself quite a strong character but this as broke me.

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Are you sure they are real bailiffs and not heavy chummies of the builder?

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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No the payment plan is hooked up to a company . The company as a web page and by the look of it quite famous! I'm scared to put the company on here and I'm not allowed to private message until I've had 30 posts.

 

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If there's nothing on the credit report, most likely these are debt collection agents.

My dog has more power then them.

Just confirm with the court that there's no ccj, then if these clowns show up again, show them your middle finger through the window and video whatever they do.

Of course if they touch your property you will be within your legal rights to use reasonable force to defend it.

If the clown is 6'5" and 300 pound, reasonability standard rises up, the bigger the better.

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I'm scared to name the company,but I can private message . There's no ccj on credit file but going down to local court tomorrow with letter to see if and when it was on.

 

Pm me

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just been on the CAB page and found a letter of enforcement example. Ours looked nothing like this. It didn't give us a breakdown . It didn't give us a case number . IT DIDNT GIVE US A CHANCE.

 

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Did you get my pm

 

Did you get my PM?

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Just been on the CAB page and found a letter of enforcement example. Ours looked nothing like this. It didn't give us a breakdown . It didn't give us a case number . IT DIDNT GIVE US A CHANCE.

 

This is starting to look more and more like dirty tricks of dca

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This is starting to look more and more like dirty tricks of dca

Yes it could even be a bailiff Co acting as DCA...

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the OP has been spoofed sadly and is very scared...

 

its another of The Sheriffs Office debacle debts.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?459290-High-Court-Enforcement-Group-Ltd-(HCE-Group)-acquires-The-Sheriffs-Office

 

I think explains why we are seeing so many TSO threads here

 

IMHO they are really sailing close to the wind if the experience of this thread maker and the others that are already running of recent are all true too.

 

they are going in heavy handed and are 'intimating' they can do all kinds of things

 

to the OP

 

you NEED to findout what the CCJ was attain for ASAP.

you have NOTHING to be scared of.

and those fees ..£6K!! what was the value of the CCJ??

 

you need to answer the questions raised here and to STOP being afraid

 

YOU'VE BEEN HAD

and you NEED to fight back.

 

 

https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-0964707606882478:652l7hswbgv&ie=UTF-8&q=The+Sheriffs+Office+&sa=Search+CAG#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=The%20Sheriffs%20Office&gsc.page=1

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you for your answer. Intimidation was their main focus and although they threatened the team, (twice) come into our home and take things and keep coming back they never called!

My husband is going to court today to see if and when on.

You guys on here have been so amazing.

I will get back to you later with an update.

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Hello, been to local court this morning.

It went to court on the 17.3.16 . There was no hearing and it went to default because they hadn't heard from us( we hadn't had any correspondence) it's now with moneyclaims contact centre. Help what does this mean????

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Hello, been to local court this morning.

It went to court on the 17.3.16 . There was no hearing and it went to default because they hadn't heard from us( we hadn't had any correspondence) it's now with moneyclaims contact centre. Help what does this mean????

 

The "moneyclaims contact centre" will probably be

https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/county-court-money-claims-centre-ccmcc

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome

https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview

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the OP has been spoofed sadly and is very scared...

 

its another of The Sheriffs Office debacle debts.

 

 

I think explains why we are seeing so many TSO threads here

 

IMHO they are really sailing close to the wind if the experience of this thread maker and the others that are already running of recent are all true too.

 

they are going in heavy handed and are 'intimating' they can do all kinds of things

 

to the OP

 

you NEED to findout what the CCJ was attain for ASAP.

you have NOTHING to be scared of.

and those fees ..£6K!! what was the value of the CCJ??

 

you need to answer the questions raised here and to STOP being afraid

 

YOU'VE BEEN HAD

and you NEED to fight back.

 

 

 

 

dx

 

This sounds more like that Sandcrooks lot to me

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there would not only have been the claimform

but to comply with pre action protocol

there should have been several letters prior to the claimform.

including a letter before action

 

 

something fishy going on here if you didn't get several letters and a claimform from a court.!

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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As dx100 says there should have been several letters before the Court docs were sent.

 

 

Even after the Claim Form you would have been notified of the CCJ being awarded.

 

 

It will be very difficult to convince a Judge they all went missing,

 

 

unless you have history of mail being misdelivered for which you will need some form of proof.

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It appears that one route of fighting this may not be feasible.

 

 

The important person to deal with is the HCEO and his demands & I assume if you have to pay then it will be at a rate that is affordable to you.

 

Therefore I may be sensible to apply for a Stay of Execution against the Writ and a Variation Order whereby a Judge can rule what is affordable after taking your Income & Expenditure into account.

 

 

There is a cost implication involved for both but if you are on certain Benefits or low wage/income then you can apply to have the fees waived in full or part.

 

If you apply for the Stay & it is granted then all Enforcement actions & charges are put on hold providing you abide by the terms of the Stay - usually a payment arrangement.

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so you know who was suing you and when they started their action.

 

 

did they give any indication of their likely action before this?

 

 

Whose name is on the claim form as the defendant, yours or your husbands or both?

 

 

Whose name is on the bailiffs paperwork-looking for errors to get the clock wound back

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