VCS WINDSCREEN PCN Claimform -- incorrect reg! - Scunthorpe, wasn't a proper car park, it's VCS's site number 02871 ***Claim Discontinued***

[dx100uk]

you do not ever counterclaim no.

[sirpercival]

Was looking to log on to the MCOL site this eve to submit my defence - I'm currently unable to log in, getting a meaningless error - is this just me or a wider issue with the site?

 

Error id - d447b51c-6522-46b4-919f-d325c2a2c55e

 

 

[sirpercival]

Managed to get on after a restart, phew!

[dx100uk]

Often that way.

It falls over till someone resets it in the morning

 

You can email it

 

If it doesn't work tomorrow as here

Dx

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sirpercival]

Just received a letter from DCB Legal in response to my evidence request saying "In due course, the Court will order that both parties file and serve all evidence they intend to rely on. We confirm you will therefore receive all relevant evidence in advance of the hearing"

 

Is that legit or does the below apply (from the evidence request template)

 

"You are reminded that as this case is yet to be allocated to a track, CPR31:14 does apply, a refusal to comply because you 'think' at this stage you dont have to comply will be referred against you in any defence."

 

Thabks

[dx100uk]

Get reading like threads

 

a cpr is simply a request...they dont have to comply

 

Dx

[sirpercival]

Received a letter from DCB indicating they will be proceeding with the court claim and with a copy of their Directions Questionnaire - I presume I don't have to do anything until the court request I fill one in myself? Have seen the post on what to fill in when required.

 

Ta 

Edited November 4, 2021 by sirpercival
Spelling error

[dx100uk]

yep just check mcol see if they sent yours yet, it could simply be dcb(l) trying to pressure you as they do.....

[sirpercival]

Yeah, nothing on MCOL, what are you saying dx, that they're cowboys who'll try anything on?? Surely not! 

[sirpercival]

Directions questionnaire received - i can recall being advised not to offer contact details other than my postal address before to avoid the bandits harassing via email etc. Does that hold for this? Or am I ok to offer given its a court doc?

 

Thanks in advance.

[dx100uk]

3 copies

 

1 wit you

no to mediation 

the rest is obv

 

1 to the court

on the copy to their sols omit phone/sig/email

3rd for your file

 

dx

 

[sirpercival]

Just received a letter from DCB Legal with a copy of their evidence, will look to scan and upload this weekend if possible,

 

but essentially it contains about 6 pictures of my car (in one you can just about make out some signage which is clearly not lit so pretty impossible to spot in the dark),

 

two photos of their signage taken in broad daylight and

a copy of their original "Notice to Driver/Keeper" which, as we've covered, was sent outside of the time limit required.

 

I'm secretly disappointed they've not attempted to forge the original Notice to Driver to correct the reg, but feeling relatively confident now!

[sirpercival]

Apologies for the delay - evidence attached, think I've managed to redact all of the identifying bits.

 

Additionally, I posted my Directions Questionnaire around 2 weeks ago now (to both DCB & the court, I have proof of postage) but I've noted MCOL still doesn't note that mine has been filed - how long does this normally take and should I be worried/do I need to contact anyone?

 

TIA

DCBL EVIDENCE.pdf

[dx100uk]

looks like the NTK is correct 29-56 days for a windscreen ticket

though if anything else is wrong is another matter.

[lookinforinfo]

The part of the NTK that BW incompetent has sent is not PoFA compliant. There may be more on the other side of the NTK  but even in the front section they have not declared the period of parking nor have they managed to decide whether they placed an NTD on your windscreen or not.

In any event they claim that you parked in a restricted area. On their signage I cannot see in any of their T&Cs that being parked in a restricted area [whatever or wherever that is] is a reason to breach their rules.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over this.

[sirpercival]

Would they not also be expected to have a copy of the NTD they attached to the car? I would assume that a properly completed NTD is necessary as proof that the timescale the NTK was sent in is PoFA compliant?

 

Also, any idea if I need to try to get my directions questionnaire to the court given it doesn't seem to have been received as yet?

 

Thanks.

[dx100uk]

They will at disclosures stage produce everything.

 

as for your n180, what was/is your deadline for returning it?

[sirpercival]

Says must return by 2nd Dec, I posted on 26/11.

[dx100uk]

you can email the court it too

do you want the email?

[sirpercival]

Yeah, that'd probably be a good idea

[dx100uk]

MCOL is only one way of responding to a claim. 
(AOS, DEFENCE, N180 ETC)
.
If you are having problems logging in, or would prefer not to use MCOL, 
you can fax, email or post your response to the Court instead. 

If you send your response by e mail 
please send it to [email protected] 

ensure you quote “Claim number xxx xxx (type of response i'e AOS , Defence, N180)” in the subject field. 
.

[sirpercival]

Received a letter from the court requesting to deal with the case on the papers - correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand the answer to that to be a firm no!

Letter attached, I'm going to work on a witness statement either this weekend or early next week.

Court letter.pdf

[lookinforinfo]

Yes you are right you do not agree to a hearing on the papers nor do you agree to mediation either.

 

If you look at the successful cases in the sticky section of the Private parking Section to find Witness Statements to learn from and to copy relevant parts that help your case.

 

You should also receive their WS and contract etc. which if you post up here you will get help on how to counter their charges which  are often a tissue of lies.

[brassnecked]

No never ever on the papers allows the fleecers to lie and cheat without challenge.

[sirpercival]

Do the dates noted in the previous letter only apply if the claim were to be dealt with on the papers? I.e. having rejected it being dealt with on the papers do I still have to submit all docs and a witness statement by 08/04 or do I wait for further directions?

Working on the WS anyway, just wanted to check.