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    • The property was our family home.  A fixed low rate btl/ development loan was given (last century!). It was derelict. Did it up/ was rented out for a while.  Then moved in/out over the years (mostly around school)  It was a mix of rental and family home. The ad-hoc rents covered the loan amply.  Nowadays  banks don't allow such a mix.  (I have written this before.) Problems started when the lease was extended and needed to re-mortgage to cover the expense.  Wanted another btl.  Got a tenant in situ. Was located elsewhere (work). A broker found a btl lender, they reneged.  Broker didn't find another btl loan.  The tenant was paying enough to cover the proposed annual btl mortgage in 4 months. The broker gave up trying to find another.  I ended up on a bridge and this disastrous path.  (I have raised previous issues about the broker) Not sure what you mean by 'split'.  The property was always leasehold with a separate freeholder  The freeholder eventually sold the fh to another entity by private agreement (the trust) but it's always been separate.  That's quite normal.  One can't merge titles - unless lease runs out/ is forfeited and new one is not created/ granted. The bridge lender had a special condition in loan offer - their own lawyer had to check title first.  Check that lease wasn't onerous and there was nothing that would affect good saleability.  The lawyer (that got sacked for dishonesty) signed off the loan on the basis the lease and title was good and clean.  The same law firm then tried to complain the lease clauses were onerous and the lease too short, even though the loan was to cover a 90y lease extension!! 
    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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VCS WINDSCREEN PCN Claimform -- incorrect reg! - Scunthorpe, wasn't a proper car park, it's VCS's site number 02871 ***Claim Discontinued***


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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Often that way.

It falls over till someone resets it in the morning

 

You can email it

 

If it doesn't work tomorrow as here

Dx

 

 

 

 

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just received a letter from DCB Legal in response to my evidence request saying "In due course, the Court will order that both parties file and serve all evidence they intend to rely on. We confirm you will therefore receive all relevant evidence in advance of the hearing"

 

Is that legit or does the below apply (from the evidence request template)

 

"You are reminded that as this case is yet to be allocated to a track, CPR31:14 does apply, a refusal to comply because you 'think' at this stage you dont have to comply will be referred against you in any defence."

 

Thabks

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Get reading like threads

 

a cpr is simply a request...they dont have to comply

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Received a letter from DCB indicating they will be proceeding with the court claim and with a copy of their Directions Questionnaire - I presume I don't have to do anything until the court request I fill one in myself? Have seen the post on what to fill in when required.

 

Ta 

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yep just check mcol see if they sent yours yet, it could simply be dcb(l) trying to pressure you as they do.....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Directions questionnaire received - i can recall being advised not to offer contact details other than my postal address before to avoid the bandits harassing via email etc. Does that hold for this? Or am I ok to offer given its a court doc?

 

Thanks in advance.

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3 copies

 

1 wit you

no to mediation 

the rest is obv

 

1 to the court

on the copy to their sols omit phone/sig/email

3rd for your file

 

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just received a letter from DCB Legal with a copy of their evidence, will look to scan and upload this weekend if possible,

 

but essentially it contains about 6 pictures of my car (in one you can just about make out some signage which is clearly not lit so pretty impossible to spot in the dark),

 

two photos of their signage taken in broad daylight and

a copy of their original "Notice to Driver/Keeper" which, as we've covered, was sent outside of the time limit required.

 

I'm secretly disappointed they've not attempted to forge the original Notice to Driver to correct the reg, but feeling relatively confident now!

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Apologies for the delay - evidence attached, think I've managed to redact all of the identifying bits.

 

Additionally, I posted my Directions Questionnaire around 2 weeks ago now (to both DCB & the court, I have proof of postage) but I've noted MCOL still doesn't note that mine has been filed - how long does this normally take and should I be worried/do I need to contact anyone?

 

TIA

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looks like the NTK is correct 29-56 days for a windscreen ticket

though if anything else is wrong is another matter.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The part of the NTK that BW incompetent has sent is not PoFA compliant. There may be more on the other side of the NTK  but even in the front section they have not declared the period of parking nor have they managed to decide whether they placed an NTD on your windscreen or not.

In any event they claim that you parked in a restricted area. On their signage I cannot see in any of their T&Cs that being parked in a restricted area [whatever or wherever that is] is a reason to breach their rules.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over this.

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Would they not also be expected to have a copy of the NTD they attached to the car? I would assume that a properly completed NTD is necessary as proof that the timescale the NTK was sent in is PoFA compliant?

 

Also, any idea if I need to try to get my directions questionnaire to the court given it doesn't seem to have been received as yet?

 

Thanks.

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They will at disclosures stage produce everything.

 

as for your n180, what was/is your deadline for returning it?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you can email the court it too

do you want the email?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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MCOL is only one way of responding to a claim. 
(AOS, DEFENCE, N180 ETC)
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If you are having problems logging in, or would prefer not to use MCOL
you can fax, email or post your response to the Court instead. 

If you send your response by e mail 
please send it to [email protected] 

ensure you quote “Claim number xxx xxx (type of response i'e AOS , Defence, N180)” in the subject field. 
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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes you are right you do not agree to a hearing on the papers nor do you agree to mediation either.

 

If you look at the successful cases in the sticky section of the Private parking Section to find Witness Statements to learn from and to copy relevant parts that help your case.

 

You should also receive their WS and contract etc. which if you post up here you will get help on how to counter their charges which  are often a tissue of lies.

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No never ever on the papers allows the fleecers to lie and cheat without challenge.

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Do the dates noted in the previous letter only apply if the claim were to be dealt with on the papers? I.e. having rejected it being dealt with on the papers do I still have to submit all docs and a witness statement by 08/04 or do I wait for further directions?

Working on the WS anyway, just wanted to check.

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