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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

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      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

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Billions of pounds worth of deals on hold due to Brexit.

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1721120/deals-worth-billions-put-on-ice-after-brexit

 

Due to Brexit it is possible the new nuclear power station will not be built, TATA steel will not find a buyer leading to their works being closed with the loss of jobs, Investment in infrastructure including housing will be reduced etc.

 

The question has to be asked, is what cost would be acceptable for the majority of people to feel that Brexit is still worth it ?

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I agree but, they are not just protesting, they are demanding another chance to have their say because they didn't get what they wanted the first time round. Yes, the referendum was close but the majority of those who voted, voted to leave. That is also democracy and anyone who tries to change that do not deserve to live in a democracy.

 

 

 

Everyone deserves to live in a democracy. Saying some don't invalidates the entire principle. I don't think that there should be another referendum either but then again I don't think there should have been one in the first place.

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The idea that the guilt factor can be laid at the door of the majority will of the people, by saying, 'well this deal can't happen and this won't happen because its the wrong decision' is a form of emotional blackmail and all because the corporate elites can't get there own way is outrageous. Best bring on the revolution..

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So a decision or leader is described as the savior of their children to the populace and rides on the wave of a minority's fervent support and that is it?

 

Isnt that what happened with Gaddafi in Libya until some external power (us and the French + the US) bombed him into defeat so another minority took over?

 

 

 

Referendums DO NOT just keep going on forever until the right vote is achieved, just like with the Scottish referendum - where a second is considered quite reasonable if the situation, or knowledge about the situation changes, and the knowledge of the Brexit situation has certainly changed MASSIVELY.

 

If the Brexiters are so certain that the country is behind them, then why do they so FEAR a second referendum now the truth is coming out, rather than the lies they peddled?

A second out vote now would become pretty much unassailable, particularly if it gained a larger margin.

 

 

(I note that Boris the Toad is now demanding everyome else clarify their plan for Brexit, ferkin rich coming from that toerag)

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I think there is a long way to go before article 50 is ever triggered. This article explains that a PM might not have legal authority to trigger article 50, unless directed by Parliament to do so. Parliament might not give permission.

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From the same article.

 

The result of the referendum is not in doubt, but we need a process that follows UK law to enact it

 

I don't think it will be a case of Parliament trying to block article 50, just an agreement of when and how to press the red button. Failure to do so would (IMO) trigger a call for a General Election thereby prolonging the process.

If Parliament ignores the will of the people then this country can no longer be called a democracy. David Cameron has abdicated that responsibility to someone else which he should not have done. He should have stayed in position to do the job himself. All this is doing is prolonging things (again). If he really didn't want this outcome, he should never have included it in the previous election manifesto.

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From the same article.

 

 

 

I don't think it will be a case of Parliament trying to block article 50, just an agreement of when and how to press the red button. Failure to do so would (IMO) trigger a call for a General Election thereby prolonging the process.

If Parliament ignores the will of the people then this country can no longer be called a democracy. David Cameron has abdicated that responsibility to someone else which he should not have done. He should have stayed in position to do the job himself. All this is doing is prolonging things (again). If he really didn't want this outcome, he should never have included it in the previous election manifesto.

I respect all peoples rights to protest however, nothing will come of it. Anyone know how many signatures are now on the petition? More than 17m?

 

I think this misses the point, in that the referendum bill that was passed by parliament purely enabled it to take place. Unlike the Scots indy ref bill which included clauses that made the result binding, the Brexit ref never made it binding on parliament or government. The result of the Brexit vote does not create any legal power and the next step is for the new Tory PM to start the process of gaining legal authority in parliament to take necessary steps to implement Brexit. As with any bill put before parliament, it can be voted against and if enough MP's vote against, a new PM will not be able to trigger article 50.

 

Will the courts get involved in this legal argument or say it is up to parliament to ensure they follow a legal process ? The government will have obtained legal advice about this already, which might be why Cameron has decided to go. Perhaps the legal advice was that parliament had to pass enabling bills for the whole process from article 50 until the final exit deal is done. This could take a very long time with arguments spread over years. The committee government has set up to look at the whole Brexit process, has to go through 80,000 pages of legislation. Then they have to consider all of the various issues affecting people and business, to see that they don't breach any legal rights or try to minimise any legal claims that might be brought. If they rushed to article 50, it could mean they ended up in a stupid position of having to ask Brussels to extend the 2 year exit period, as it is likely to take much longer.

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I see the world is queuing up to trade with the UK

on Brexit from the EU. so much for the rubbish spewed out by the inners.

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World queues up to win trade deals with Britain after Brexit

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I see the world is queuing up to trade with the UK

on Brexit from the EU. so much for the rubbish spewed out by the inners.

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where, anywhere in those links is there anything except a TTIP deal with the USA which ANYBODY can have and NOBODY wants, and a loads of unsupported wishful fantasising all quoting each other about deals sometime in the future maybe perhaps hopefully ??

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If we want a real deal with the USA check a real newspaper, not Viz (best of the bunch), the sun or the mail. If you think we want TTIP which would give the UK and its laws to American drug companies - then think again.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-barack-obama-was-right-britain-uk-will-be-at-the-back-of-the-queue-for-trade-deals-says-a7116741.html

 

 

New Zealand exports

Dairy products, meat, wool and wood products, fish, machinery

 

That'll upset our sheep and dairy farmers, and make the balance of payments even worse.

 

 

New Zealand 57th 'largest' importer in the world

Just need another 50 orso like that and we'll be back where we were

 

 

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New Zealand's net external debt has expanded from $76.2 billion to $138.9 billion over the past 14 years with the net contributors to the latest $138.9 billion figure being government $11.2 billion, banks $97.2 billion, other $1.3 billion and inter-company $29.3 billion.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

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Anyone know how many signatures are now on the petition? More than 17m?

 

 

 

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Apparently France and Italy are already trying to poach banks from the UK - That is quite worrying when you see that those 2 countries have huge financial problems of their own !

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Apparently France and Italy are already trying to poach banks from the UK - That is quite worrying when you see that those 2 countries have huge financial problems of their own !

 

The Banks have already started to move some of their staff to other countries. London does a lot of trading on behalf of the Euro area and as soon as it is outside the EU trading area it will have to be moved apparently.

 

Brexit will cost the UK tens of billions and hit the economy for at least 10 years. But many leavers seem to think this is worth it. Is Brussels that bad ?

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I do regularly read Ambroses articles in the DT, as he gives you many facts which are balanced and not political.

 

There is a possibility that the EU might collapse before any likely exit date is reached. You can bet that Brexit will be blamed, as it caused greater uncertainty. Many EU mainland Banks are in trouble. Deutsche Bank apperently failed a US stress test recently and there is concern about them getting into difficulty, with other Banks also being affected.

 

If we end up in a bad place and Brexit is found to be part of the cause, there will be many within the 17 million voters who regret their decision. This might include many pensioners who become worse off. You may have read of a recent court decision, where a company who took over a UK firm, were judged not to be responsible for final salary pension scheme liabilities. If the economy goes down the pan and pension fund investments struggle, you will see some of them changing pensions, even to those currently drawing pension. You might also see government increasing pension age and freezing pensions over a period.

 

I don't think many who voted in the referendum really thought about the fragility of economies and possible consequences. Both Cameron and Osborne did warn people, but they were labelled as project fear. Also when IMF, IFS, Bank of England etc gave the same warnings, the leave campaign said they often got their forecasts wrong.

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BoE has already started to pump money into the system. They are also set to apply more QE later in the year.

 

Brexit, at any cost ?

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Another crash ?..

 

It is possible and not necessarily directly linked to Brexit. But the Brexit vote did not help.

 

If people who support Brexit presume that it will happen at any cost, they might be disappointed. MP's and Lords will if necessary stop Brexit if it is not in the countries or peoples interest. But any blocking of Brexit will not happen until the temperature of public opinion has cooled.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/04/sp-scoffs-at-armageddon-warnings-for-britain/

 

S&P said the eurozone recovery is now in full swing as fiscal austerity eases and QE gains traction, all helped by cheap oil. The growth of consumer credit has jumped from zero to 5.4pc over the last year, and car sales are up 18.4pc.

 

Pessimists counter that the collapse in European bank shares is an early warning sign of trouble ahead. The Euro Stoxx bank index has fallen by half over the past year, with Deutsche Bank plumbing historic depths almost daily.

 

The epicentre of financial stress is in the Italian banking system. Non-performing loans - equal to 18pc of balance sheets - have long been a ticking time-bomb. They have now combined with new EU "bail-in" rules that expose creditors to sweeping haircuts.

 

Most of the banks are shut out of the capital markets and cannot raise fresh money to meet tough banking regulations. Monte dei Paschi di Siena crashed by 14pc on Monday after it was ordered to slash its bad loan book of €46.9bn by a third over the next three years, a near impossible task.

 

 

 

Well it looks to me as though it is the Italian banking system is in crisis and surely cant be due to the Brexit vote ?

 

Faced with a festering crisis that is turning more dangerous by the day, Mr Renzi is preparing to take matters into his own hands and defy the EU authorities. This would be a dramatic escalation, risking a head-on collision with Brussels, Frankfurt and, above all, Berlin.

 

Sources say he is mulling a rescue under Article 107 of the Lisbon Treaty to inject capital, if necessary up to a limit of €40bn raised through sovereign bonds or guarantees. While the action would almost certainly be illegal, it would take years for the European Court to rule on the case.

 

“No prime minister can let his banking system collapse just for the sake of enforcing the EU’s crazy rules,” said one official. “This cannot go on.”

 

 

And it would appear that despite piling in with the others to have a go at Brexit voters, Mr Renzi is also unhappy at the "EU's crazy rules" ?

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Leavers are mostly to blame for any failures in UK caused by their votes and any knock on effect in the EU. They were warned. It was not all project fear. The leave campaign won, because they could use some exaggerated claims by remain to attack them and get some people who are anti establishment to vote leave.

 

Interesting comments from Ken Clarke on Tory leader candidates.

http://news.sky.com/story/1721982/watch-ken-clarke-ridicules-tory-candidates

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I like the comments about Gove by Rifkind. :)

'Sir Malcolm Rifkind has said he is “hugely amused” after being caught on camera with former Conservative Cabinet minister Ken Clarke ridiculing candidates in the party’s leadership contest. It comes after the former colleagues – apparently unaware they were being filmed – said that Michael Gove, the Justice Secretary, was so right-wing he would likely start wars with “at least three countries” and that Mr Clarke did not really think Andrea Leadsom, the energy minister, wanted to leave the EU....'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ken-clarke-malcolm-rifkind-sky-news-tory-leadership-contest-remarks-video-a7120931.html

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Pound sinks to lowest level for decades.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36721016

 

Investment in the UK is now at risk, as people lose confidence. There have been problems in other markets, most likely partly due to Brexit.

 

Those who voted leave will have to accept the consequences of their votes on the whole of the UK and those abroad who suffer from after shocks.

 

The media are trying to get 'their man' Gove into no.10. This is Gove who allegedly gave the Sun newspaper their frontpage of the Queen not liking the EU. The Queen was brought into politics by Murdochs newspapers in order to get their anti EU position accepted by the British public and like the good sheep they are they voted as instructed.

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