CP PLus Ltd bus stop ticket Gartnavel hospital glasgow

[bearsdenred]

hi,

 

just posting up today as i just recieved a letter from a company called parkingcsl.co.uk seeking a unathorised parking notice. I found on my car at Gartnavel hospital on the 22nd June 2016.

 

I refused point blank with the man issuing the ticket as he claimed i parked in a bus stop.

Yet i was at least 30 feet away.

 

 

Claims a broken red painted road was the bus stop.

 

 

Early charge was 20 quid.

 

 

now the letter is looking for a charge of 40 quid.

 

 

Now in this UPN letter they claim they have the law in releation to this act..

 

" Administration of Justice act 1970 "

 

Since when is that used for appealing for money?

 

 

To answer anyones questions,

i have not contacted this company once,

they got my details via the DVLA.

(Great data protection we have in the UK).

So who knows what this law is?

 

i have uploaded some piccies of the bus stop i am alleged to have parked in.

[silverfox1961]

Hi and welcome to CAG. Sorry but I have had to hide your attachments as they contain personal information. Can you please remove all personal details the convert them to pdf format before reposting.

 

We have time before you need to appeal so best get that bit sorted so that we all can see what we need to see.

[bearsdenred]

hi,

 

just posting up today as i just recieved a letter from a company called parkingcsl.co.uk seeking a unathorised parking notice. I found on my car at Gartnavel hospital on the 22nd June 2016.

 

I refused point blank with the man issuing the ticket as he claimed i parked in a bus stop. Yet i was at least 30 feet away. Claims a broken red painted road was the bus stop. Early charge was 20 quid. now the letter is looking for a charge of 40 quid. Now in this UPN letter they claim they have the law in releation to this act..

 

" Administration of Justice act 1970 "

 

Since when is that used for appealing for money? To answer anyones questions, i have not contacted this company once, they got my details via the DVLA. (Great data protection we have in the UK). So who knows what this law is?

 

i have uploaded some piccies of the bus stop i am alleged to have parked in.

[bearsdenred]

okay, ill get them re-posted as PDF and stuff removed. cheers

[dx100uk]

follow the upload guide please

[bearsdenred]

right i have added a PDF of said Bus stop and the letter. (all my bits removed)

letter.pdf

bus stop.pdf

[stu007]

Gartnavel Hospital in Glasgow this link may be of interest:

 

NHS GREATER GLASGOW AND CLYDE CAR PARKING OPERATIONAL POLICY AND PROCEDURES FROM AUGUST 2011, (Please bear in mind the link is an automatic PDF Download):

 

http://www.nhsggc.org.uk/media/226418/nhsggc_car_parking_operational_procedures_and_apps.pdf

[dx100uk]

opps my bad

you are in Scotland

 

theres no tort of trespass

as long as you don't name the driver

 

if you've not done that to date

 

you TOTALLY IGNORE EVERYONE.

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

Essentially they are flying a kite as they have no "reasonable cause" to get the keeper details as the PoFA doesnt apply to Scotland so when they issued a screen ticket that is all they can do.

 

 

ignore CP+ as they are just trying their luck

but by all menas do write a complaint AS THE KEEPER OF THE VEHICLE, not as the driver,

to the hospital and tell them that their parking monkeys are busy breaking the law and what are they going to do about it.

 

 

You can also tell them that the driver indicated that there was no such breach of parking conditions in any case.

 

then fire off a letter to the DVLA and complain that your details have been obtained by deception becasue the reasonable cause bit doesnt apply as there is no keeper liability as specifically mentioned and demand to know why CP+ have been allowed to access your data when they had no cuase to do so and what are the DVLA going to do abot this misrepresentation of their position by CP+?

 

the reason these bandits get away whith things no individual ever would is

because there isnt enough fuss made about their unlawful activities

and prosecutors are loathe to go after companies rather than individuals

 

 

as the people who are culpable just lie to a jury and enough doubt about their role is then fostered so the CPS dont risk it..

[bearsdenred]

Called the DVLA directly and will send another letter regarding this,

 

 

according to them they believed my car is based in England and thus gave out the details.

 

 

they dont care as they claim they have a resonable doubt request.

I have asked specifically why this is the case as stated in your post they shouldnt do so.

got fobbed of by the DVLA.

 

This is the generated DVLA spam.

 

‘Reasonable cause’ can include:

 

 

• finding out who was responsible for an accident
  
• tracing the owner of an abandoned vehicle
  
• tracing the owner of a vehicle illegally parked on private land
  
• issuing parking tickets
  
• tracing people responsible for driving off without paying for goods and services
  
• tracing vehicle owners suspected of insurance fraud
  

[Oddfellow]

‘Reasonable cause’ can include:

• tracing the owner of a vehicle illegally parked on private land
  

 

 

??? Well that is poorly-worded for a start! Who is to say it is "illegal"?

[ericsbrother]

It doesnt matter where your car is based,

it is where the event took place so dont call the DVLA

write to them and complain, complain and complain.

 

 

Again, the reasonable cause the parking co used was the POFA

and IT DOESNT APPLY so they werent telling the truth to gain the info.

 

The DVLA make money out of all these requests so they arent likely to stop them unless they are forced to by government.

 

 

When there are enough complaints someone can do a FOI request and get the data on the number of improper requests and complaints and then apply pressure to the govt to change things.

 

Your fobbing off will not register so get writing.

[bearsdenred]

just recieved this letter today (still waiting response from both my complaint letters) from another company claiming to be dealing with this ticket.

 

Where did parkingcsl.co.uk's letter go?

 

 

and now this letter has a different company named DRP recovery limited. debtrecoveryplus.co.uk

 

So any advice now on this?

one.pdf

[dx100uk]

I've merged you two files into one of less than .2Mb

as both were 3Mb.

 

 

nothing you need to worry about in those letters

you are in Scotland

they cant do anything to you.

 

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

DRP are the parking world's rentathreats,

you can ignore anything they say as they have no interest in any matter whatsoever.

 

 

the reason it has gone to them rather than down the more official route is becuase there is no reason for the parking co to use the official route as they know they are in the wrong

 

 

so are just hoping you are ill informed or frightened and thus might be tempted to pay them.

 

Who else did you write to other than the hospital and the DVLA? No-one I hope.

 

If you do here back from the hospital trust

if will be interesteing to know what they say

and how they address you

as you wont have admitted to being the driver

but if they have passed the matter on to the parking monkeys

exactly what part of the DPA allows them to do that you should ask?

[bearsdenred]

I wrote to the hospital (just tried to chase it up with them today on the phone got voice mail)

sent letter to the dvla.

 

 

Have not written any appeal letters to CP plus limited at all.

 

DRP recovery i phoned up and queired why 2 debt collectors are chasing for money

and they admitted on the call parkingcsl.co.uk are in fact CP plus ltd. (nice to know they have 2 names).

 

 

I have told them flat out as the keeper of the vehicle i will not be paying 0 pennies.

[ericsbrother]

NEVER EVER PHONE A PARKING COWBOY OR DCA

 

they now have your phone number and will harass you.

 

as you are in Scotland this is doubly the case

 

 

- please anyone reading this take note.

 

 

DO NOT USE THE PHONE AT ALL FOR ANY COMMUNICATION WITH A PARKING COWBOY OR DCA

 

write another letter to the hospital copied to your MP

and say that they are ignoring their own complaints procedure.

[bearsdenred]

NEVER EVER PHONE A PARKING COWBOY OR DCA

 

they now have your phone number and will harass you.

 

as you are in Scotland this is doubly the case

 

 

- please anyone reading this take note.

 

 

DO NOT USE THE PHONE AT ALL FOR ANY COMMUNICATION WITH A PARKING COWBOY OR DCA

 

write another letter to the hospital copied to your MP

and say that they are ignoring their own complaints procedure.

 

 

I thank you for all the advice given, but just to let you know my mobile number (not house number is listed and private) so this company doesnt have my number to call back on. Even if they did keep hounding me for money and not taking it to court will give my solicitor all the evidence they need to ply charges on to that company. Especially when the police are brought into this.

 

Think you guys really need to update the sticky threads to ensure their is a clear and precise step by step guide on what to do.

[ericsbrother]

do not use a solicitor, you will just be throwing money away. the police have never investigated any parking co, even when they have been proven to break the law