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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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I remember going to the Hammersmith Palais (many, many years ago) and lots of the girls would be wearing frocks with the price tags still attached and tucked down the back so they could return them on Monday !

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Another good one was old computer games - I am 40 so was in to my Commodore 64. I used to buy the games, get them home and then record the games (before they had security which meant you could not copy them like the new stuff) on a blank tape - took game back for a refund saying "got this as a present and someone bought me the same one" so had the game and money!

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Bit mean sending the book back

 

Don't judge a book by it's cover my friend and I suffered much hardship when her benefit stopped, I had to support her, my young son, two pets and myself, paying rent, council tax, utility bills and food shopping on my Income Support money. I had no penny to rub together that book costs £500. When Cathy benefit was reinstated we used the back payment to purchased the book how ironic but we don't need the book because we found the right place to go for all the benefit laws.

 

The seller was happy to refund before the 14 days was due besides I do not need to explain to you its dog eat dog world out there you keep hold of every penny once you've experienced starvation even my poor pets was suffering. pfff.

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Depends who the seller was. I purchased a book through an ebay trader, and now they spam my email account with junk "offers"....

 

Helen2264: Well done on all the hard work you have put in over the last year. It must have been very stressful on both you and Cathy.

 

Thank you Paul, Cathy and I suffered so much she gave up and was suicidal, we've been back and forth to her GP even her GP stood up for her and told me to tell the DWP to ring him so he can speak to them. I became ill myself too and could not take anymore, you either sink or swim I chose to swim back up and fight with everything I had Cathy's case is genuine I didn't expect for her to be put in the Support Group especially after the Compliance officer interview I gave it my all in that meeting I had a feeling the interview was to stop Cathy's benefit yet again, I just could not let that happen I was well prepared for that Compliance interview but the Compliance Officer was not prepare for what happened, I ended up interrogation her instead the DWP and ATOS are corrupt to the core and making too many people suffer.

 

When the Compliance Officer abandoned the meeting I knew we won, I threaten her with legal action should Cathy's benefit stopped there and then that did the trick. DWP staff are cowards they will not give out the Jobcentre Plus managers names. I have all the managers names from the 3 Jobcentre Plus offices who deal with Cathy's benefit I sent letters to the 3 and threaten legal action I think in the end they've decided put Cathy in the Support Group to keep her quiet besides the DWP and ATOS was always at fault right from the beginning and they know it.

 

Never give up just keep fighting if one cannot then get someone who can help. lol The compliance officer even said to Cathy, she is lucky to have a friend like me who fight for her that her trying to be nice once she knew she'd lost that war.

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I remember Cathy's story and I'm very glad it's all turned out right; she has a great - and most formidable - friend in you. Hope things are easier for her from now on.

 

Regarding buying a book, reading it then sending it back.. I can't criticise that as in my fashon-crazy youth we would buy a new shirt to wear on Friday night at the disco then return it to the shop on Saturday morning (hopefully not beer-stained), make an excuse like 'unwanted gift' and get a refund. Repeat with different shop next week, etc

 

I was just 'wearing-in' the shirts to make them comfortable for the next person, that's how I saw it :)

 

Thank you for your kind comments that book is very expensive just the welfare one costs £500 the whole book cost thousands of pounds google it you'll found out. Desperate times call for desperate measure I'm no solicitor to keep the book besides I bought the 4th edition much, much cheaper I've kept that one but the 5th edition was going back lol.

 

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I remember going to the Hammersmith Palais (many, many years ago) and lots of the girls would be wearing frocks with the price tags still attached and tucked down the back so they could return them on Monday !

 

Hahaha! I remember those days too, you see a frock you like they are pricey buy them wear it on a Saturday night out then Monday take it back and get your money many others did that was quite fun too.

 

:lol:

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£500??? Crikey! No wonder we have a hard time fighting things when the law books are so expensive. Well done m'dear.

 

(It's currently on Amazon, a snip at £249.99. But hurry as there's only one left).

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owch £500

 

What you did was great. I made the comment purly as I rad this thread for the first time after reading a thread about ebay sellers getting ripped off which is why my comment came out as it did. I meant it tongue in cheek anyway :D

 

As for you orrbile lot, we shouldnt be condoning naughtyness now should we haha.

 

Anyway the book discussion is off topic, lets not take away from OPs victory :D

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