work for dole april 2014

[bcham]

just wandering if this is still going ahead, as i am classed has long term unemployed,

http://www.channel4.com/news/work-dole-jobseekers-allowance-george-osborne-conservative

[abc123def]

30 hours of work for £71.70

 

works out at £2.39 an hour,

 

the government would be breaking minimum wage laws.

 

Plus of course people claiming JSA are spending hours searching for and applying for jobs

and if they don't have internet access at home need to be in libraries or JCP

which are only open working hours

 

so while they are doing this community work

they cannot search for or find employment in the usual ways.

 

But in answer to your question, afaik yes, but think they are targetting a certain age range initially but don't quote me.

[bcham]

i am 56 years young with a bad back,so will i be exempt.

[Lilly_Monroe]

How does this help people find work.

Being forced to do community work is not going to help them.

[antone]

How does this help people find work.

Being forced to do community work is not going to help them.

 

It doesn't help people find work. Of course, I suspect that's not really the intent behind the plan.

[osdset]

30 hours of work for £71.70

 

works out at £2.39 an hour,

 

the government would be breaking minimum wage laws.

 

Plus of course people claiming JSA are spending hours searching for and applying for jobs

and if they don't have internet access at home need to be in libraries or JCP

which are only open working hours

 

so while they are doing this community work

they cannot search for or find employment in the usual ways.

 

But in answer to your question, afaik yes, but think they are targetting a certain age range initially but don't quote me.

Nope, because it's not classified as paid employment.

[dyfed]

Another good idea by the condems to get 2.5 million unemployed into the 0.5 million job vacancies!

[abc123def]

there will be even less vacancies now because people will be doing it for nought to get their JSA

 

note I realised legally it's not breaking minimum wage laws as it's not work, just making a point really that it's a major kick/incentive to get people into any job at all and off jsa - which is what this scheme is all about.

[ashmk]

30 hours of work for £71.70

 

works out at £2.39 an hour,

 

 

Plus what you get in housing benefit and council benefit. It's not just what goes in your hand.

 

Add everything together then work it out again.

[abc123def]

many people on jsa don't receive either of those benefits though

[Annie71]

Is this CS going to berun alongside the criminal j u stice systems unpaid work scheme? Mind you there is probably some cross over as well. So what happens if you are expected to do 3 days for your crime and another 30 hours for your benefit?

[abc123def]

Annie, being unemployed is a crime. Practically. That's why claimants are being suitably punished ;-)

[worried33]

how is this different to the existing work placements?

 

and if people are working for their dole full time, probably for comemrcial profitable companies, if the government is so obsessed with getting people into work why arent these companies been forced to employ them for a living wage?

[Annie71]

From the link it seemed to be working on community projects. This will include things that in normal circumstances the local council might need to provide. That would be an excuse to cut the grant to local government.

[antone]

many people on jsa don't receive either of those benefits though

 

Plus, plenty of people who receive HB/CTR work, and their employers don't get to take their benefits into account when deciding what to pay them.

 

To me, it's pretty simple - if there's a job to do, employ someone to do it.