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    • Is the letter headed Letter of Claim/before Claim or similar? If not, it sounds like more of the threatogram chain. If you're not sure, post up an anonymised copy of the letter and we'll check. HB
    • So guess what, we have received a final demand letter for £100. It states if payment is not made by 11/06 they will have no option but to forward the case to their litigation dept with a view to commence County Court Proceedings. So just wondering if anyone has any advice. Do we ignore this? or do we need to take action? Thanks 
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    • Thanks for the reply and clarification, that might just explain why in my case contact has pretty much ceased. Though with such companies it doesn't mean they won't ever threaten to return to court as a tool to force one's hand if they feel they are not self informed on their chances etc.  But concerning how last year they tried to use the CCJ to get a charging order and the court granted an intirum order on our mortgage using the CCJ that would have been a good 2-3 months beyond the 6 years, should the court not have checked the age of the CCJ in the first case or would they always grant an interim order simply off the back of a CCJ being produced without even checking the age of it?.  Had I not defended that action at the time they may well have got a default using a CCJ older than 6 years which could be a concern going forwards. At the time when I contacted the court to question the paperwork for a final order application the clerk suggested people don't get informed when companies apply for interim charging orders, they are automatic if a claimant has a CCJ and people only get contacted once a date for a final order application goes through. kind of begs the question if such companies can continue a seemingly backdoor method to attempt default action if un-defended if the initial application doesn't need to check the age of a CCJ?.
    • Hello!  Wondering if someone can help with this.  I suspect not but worth a go.  I appreciate the "contract is with the seller" line, which is what Evri has fed me but wanted to see if someone with experience in these things could suggest anything else I could do here.  I appreciate there are many topics about lost parcels - My parcels weren't lost, until the driver walked up to my door with them and then decided to make them lost/stolen... I'll summarise what has happened.  Wednesday of last week - Evri delivery driver stole / walked off with 3 of my parcels.  -  Arrived outside my properly, took photos (3 separate photos as its 3 separate deliveries) of the tops of the parcels (pointlessly zoomed in on just the labels, couldn't see anything else, other than a small piece of the pavement and a little weed, which doubly confirms it was outside my door as I can see the same plant), marked the order as delivered and walked off with them.  He's marked on the Evri GPS marked that he was outside.   -  3 different deliveries, from the same company (same boxes etc.), but 3 separate tracking numbers. -  Went through the Evri bot which opened a case on each tracking number.  I then phoned them and left a voicemail explaining what had happened. -  24 hours later had a canned response asking me if the packages had turned up and to check around etc..  I responded explaining again what happened and that they've definitely been taken. -  4 days later,  this morning, I get a response telling me to ask the merchant to refund me. I've responded to this message with a long email, repeating what I said, that I believe the driver has stolen these packages and that he took those suspicious top down shots of the packages, marked them as delivered without ringing or knocking etc.  I've said that I expect them to investigate further, but I gather they won't. In my several messages to them initially and later, I told them I don't care about a refund and wanted the parcels.  They contain some sentimental stuff, nothing of high monetary value, hence me going to this trouble.  I only paid £25 for the contents. I did contact the merchant when this first happened and they asked me to wait a few days.  They ended up refunding me despite me asking them not to and that I wanted them to escalate it with Evri because this appears to be a case of theft.  They didn't seem bothered - Refunded me and told me to go back to Evri and escalate it with them? So - Is there any way to compel Evri to conduct a proper investigation with this driver?  Search for my parcels? I have quite a lot of deliveries handled by Evri (not out of choice) - They used to have a fantastic chap and I rarely had any issues.  He has been replaced by a new guy and I believe the route is handled by this same guy who I believe has taken my packages.  Naturally, I fear this is going to happen again in the future if no investigation occurs. Appreciate any assistance - Thanks for reading. Al.  
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You know, i was trying to say to DonkeyB via DM that BG have wreaked that much havoc in areas of my life that you just dont expect, that its hard for me to know where to start. My main concern is my son. No cooking facilities, heating or hot water throws up potential childcare issues. Im running between our home and my sisters, my kids Dads, showering in one house, eating in another - im sick of getting fobbed off with promises and they do the exact opposite.

Tomorrow is a new day hey.

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You know, i was trying to say to DonkeyB via DM that BG have wreaked that much havoc in areas of my life that you just dont expect, that its hard for me to know where to start. My main concern is my son. No cooking facilities, heating or hot water throws up potential childcare issues. Im running between our home and my sisters, my kids Dads, showering in one house, eating in another - im sick of getting fobbed off with promises and they do the exact opposite.

Tomorrow is a new day hey.

 

You still have their absurd statement that they don’t have any money to compensate you. Ha ha ha ha....

 

Can you record calls?

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Im literally on the phone to them now, on hold. I called the re-connections team, fully expecting it to be the wrong department and i was not disappointed. The woman i spoke to last night did not listen to a word i said, the number she gave me is for re-connections for customers with debt.

 

So despite extensive notes on their systems, myself repeating the story ad nauseum, just spoke to someone in the billing department, again just put through to anyone - so far 20 mins on the phone and im yet to speak to anyone who can walk and talk at the same time. Im not even angry anymore, its just ridiculous.

 

update: 33 minutes later, another wrong department, on hold and still not spoken to anyone who has said anything other than " sorry Miss X, this is the wrong department, il put you through to the right one"

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Now im shaking with anger. Im on the phone to a young man who told me i requested the meter removing, therefore i would not have any gas, why am i complaining!!!!!!

 

They said they listened to the phone call and i asked for the meter to be removed and im was happy with that.

 

Im informed what i should have said was i would like a meter exchange.

 

Its a crying shame BG`s pedantic attention to detail,l in this case, does not extend to operating within the law.

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Now im shaking with anger. Im on the phone to a young man who told me i requested the meter removing, therefore i would not have any gas, why am i complaining!!!!!!

 

I'd stay off the phone, BG show themselves to be less than useful time and time again.

 

Send the email to Sam, mark it formal complaint in the subject line and state your case.

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As advised, you must stay off the phone. The phoen reps are minimum wage workers and are told/forced to say anything to put the blame on the customer so they dont take complaints any further.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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I am totally Gobsmacked that BG has done this. This needs to be in the nationals NOW!!!

 

I know BG can be so incompetent but this is lower than low, even for them. Can you get in touch with another provider, explain the situation and see how they can help, it wont be instant but I cant see them charging you for putting in a meter. But I could be wrong but worth a try.

 

You really need to get this out on the social media networks as well.

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Oh no, BG agreed to come today to install a credit meter, the guy is here but says he can fit a meter but is not allowed to switch the gas on. So still no further in getting my son home.

 

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Im on the phone to BG now, the lady whom i speaking to checked with her bosses and has told the engineer, no matter what is going on, they have to leave me with a gas supply.

 

The Engineer has said that he is under instructions from his boss not to connect the supply under any circumstances.

 

We are at deadlock. Both my phones are out of use, im on one and the engineer is on the other, otherwise id be on the phone to the Sun newspaper right now.

 

As soon as he finishes with the mobile im going to record the rest of the conversation.

 

Well, engineer called his boss who told me because the boiler had been stood, not working, for 5 days, it was now considered to be decommissioned and needs a full service, at my LL`s cost.

 

That was the final straw, i lost my temper completely and told them if they do not have my gas switched on by 8pm this evening, pictures of my kid crying over his dead pet will be blown up and posted on every social media outlet i can find, under the headline of Thinking about BG? Think again, what you are looking at is a true picture of the real face of BG`s customer care.

 

Im told a service engineer will try and call today as they recognise this is not my doing. Too late, im calling The Sun and every National i can think of. If it was not for the CAG, i would be even more lost, if anyone takes my story, il be happy to mention that.

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I have been advised to let you know the following..

 

 

 

I think that she has an excellent action for trespass. Quite straightforward. No needed for a lawyer and probably quite a lot in damages.

I'd be looking for actual lossess

Plus aggravated damages for the abuse of the court process plus punitive damages.

 

She could bring the whole thing in at under 10k but leave or to the discretion of the court.

If she is up for it we'll help her.

She will achieve nothing through the ombudsman.

It is small claim or nothing

 

 

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Thank you, absolutely il take any help i can get. But more than that, i don`t want this to happen to anyone else. If it was winter i hate to think of the consequences.

 

After speaking to the young guy last night who patronised me over asking for the PPM to be removed ect, i said to him at the end of the call " can i confirm then that the credit meter will be installed and my gas supply reinstated" he said yes. When i questioned this today, i was told yes it was correct what i had been promised but the guy did not say the gas supply would be switched back ON, just reconnected.

 

I keep expecting Aston Kutcher to come jumping out at me.

 

Still no call back from the service engineers.

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Crotalus, you may get some calls shortly from the press – let us know if anyone makes contact.

 

Absolutely i will DonkeyB thank you. You have made note of my number, il edit it now. CAG and its representatives are welcome to pass my number on to anyone they feel can help us.

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It has also been suggested that you write to the court where British Gas obtained the Warrant. You say that both you and the LL advised British Gas that any debt was due by the previous tenant and the LL even gave a forwarding address. In which case the Warrant has been obtained unlawfully and the Court might not be to happy about this.

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Thanks guys, ive posted a link to this thread on the BG facebook page too. Bets are on how long it stays there.

 

Im composing a letter to the Court right now. Im still gobsmacked a Court will issue a warrant to The Occupier! A warrant i have yet to see.

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