PCN Served, pictures show me driving off.

[pordster]

Hi,

I received a PCN for being parked after the expiry of paid for time and I got there just as the Traffic Officer was doing the pictures etc and thus the evidence they have shows a blurry tax disc close up and me driving off out of the space. On previous occasions they have had pictures of the ticket itself and the car in the space. Do I have any grounds for appeal?

Thanks in advance

[nohope]

Was it a council parking ticket or a private one?

[pordster]

Council Parking ticket from canterbury city council

[nohope]

How long after your ticket ran out did you get back to the car.

[pordster]

About 15/20 minutes, i do not believe they have any evidence of when the ticket actually ran out though apart from before the time stated on the ticket.

[Bang!]

Did they stick the ticket on the car as it was moving?

[pordster]

No, was already stuck on but he was trying to take pictures as the car was moving.

[green_and_mean]

You were 20 minutes late, why would you have grounds for appeal?

[pordster]

@green_and_mean

 

Usually Traffic Officers have pictures of the parking tickets in the windscreen, the car in the parking bay etc so they have evidence to show that your ticket is not for the time stated on the PCN, however, in this instance the officer did not get those pictures and so I purely came to ask for some friendly advice as to whether I had a leg to stand on due the lack of evidence they had.

[green_and_mean]

@green_and_mean

 

Usually Traffic Officers have pictures of the parking tickets in the windscreen, the car in the parking bay etc so they have evidence to show that your ticket is not for the time stated on the PCN, however, in this instance the officer did not get those pictures and so I purely came to ask for some friendly advice as to whether I had a leg to stand on due the lack of evidence they had.

 

A summary of the grounds for appeal is below failing to take photos due to the driver driving off is sadly not on the list.

 

that the alleged contravention did not occur;

you were not the owner of the vehicle in question;

that the penalty charge exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case;

that there has been a procedural impropriety on the part of the enforcement authority;

that the order which is alleged to have been contravened in relation to the vehicle concerned is invalid;

the penalty charge had already been paid in full;

 

You could of course claim the CEO was lying and claim you did not park beyond the expiry time and hope they beleive you but that would involve lying yourself which is a criminal offence in regards to a parking appeal and could result in a hefty fine.

[dw190]

Another bit that some Councils keep up their sleeves is the ticket records. Some machines ask for you to typeyour reg in and this appears on the ticket and in the machine log.

[green_and_mean]

Another bit that some Councils keep up their sleeves is the ticket records. Some machines ask for you to typeyour reg in and this appears on the ticket and in the machine log.

 

Photos are usually the last stage in the PCN process the CEO would more than likely have recorded the PD details in his machine before he started taking the photos anyway. Even if he hadn't recorded the details in this case the photo of the car driving away would indicate why they had not been recorded.

[nohope]

Normally unless you have something decent in the way of proof that you had not stayed past your ticket time then any appeal would be a waste of time.

[dx100uk]

sri thread closed

 

cag is not here for avoidance tactics

on correctly issued tickets.

 

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