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Whilst I was away I received a letter for unpaid council tax from Jacobs. The amount was for £892.12. Unfortunatey the 14days I was given to pay on the letter had expired by the time I got to read it, so the next letter I received was from a bailiff that visited demanding £1112.12......£220 added on !!!!

 

I rang the bailiff to advise that I wouldn't be paying anymore than £42.50 they were entitled too. A heated exchange ensued before I put the phone down. Anyway, 10 mins later he phoned me back saying he would reluctantly accept just £42.50 if I paid the following day.

 

In the meantime I rang the council who were willing to accept full payment from me including the £42.50. They informed me that the original £892.12 already included the £42.50 so i paid it to them in full and they said they would inform Jacobs.

 

I rang the bailiff back to inform him (as he was due round again that morning) and obviously he wasn't happy that I had circumvented him even though the council had agreed to take the full payment from me (obviously he wanted extra fees). He then said he would pursue me for fees at which point I just said bye.

 

Can I assume that because the council took the payment of £42.50 (which they advised was for the visits) from me that the matter is actually over and they don't have a leg to stand on ???

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refer him to the council

the LO is now settled anyhow once you've paid the council

so he can do nothing

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for the reply. It actually made my day that I'd angered him because he used all sorts of dirty tactics to get me to pay the additional £220....applying for commital to prison, taking my car (I don't even have one), locksmith, he's an enforcement officer not a bailiff, etc, etc. Kept advising me that I was wrong that he could only charge £42.50 (funny how he phoned me back 10 mins later accepting £42.50, yet failed to tell me that £42.50 was already included in the original sum).

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That bailiff won't be standing his round in the pub tonight, well done you:-D

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