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    • If anybody has any advice here, it would be greatly appreciated, I already suffer with pre-existing disabilities & have struggled with this so far. 
    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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There is no part of the adviser interview during the referral to work program that specifies what your rights are, in the interview the requirement of the adviser is to ensure that the relevant paperwork, leaflets and dialogues on the computer system are updated correctly.

Also there is noting in the guidance to state what rights customers have or don't have iygwim? It is a process that is to be followed, a bit like the contact centre staff who follow the script when taking a new claim even if they know that someone is claiing the wrong benefit or has no entitlement they aren't allowed to deviate from the script.

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NLP is not treatment - it is snake oil peddled by snake oil salesmen. In March I had the misfortune to be mandated onto a one day course run by people who described themselves as "masters of Neuro Linguistic programming". There was no prior discussion of the course prior to my mandation, no prior mention of NLP just a letter in the post mandating my attendance. Needless to say the course itself was completely useless but the poor victims (including me) had to sit through it all. If any one had left the result would've been a sanction doubt, disagreeing too vehemently with the twit attempting to impart his wisdom carried the same omnipresent threat of removal of all income.

I got angry and decided to get even.

I spoke to a journalist from the Financial Times. My comments and experience formed part of an article she did and which was published in the FT - from memory it was titled "The role of Neuro Linguistic programming in the Work programme" (or something similar).

A4e attempted to defend themselves - they claimed that the course was discussed with attendees prior to the course and that everyone had agreed to attend (two lies there in quick succession).

I don't think A4e will be quite so quick to go anywhere near NLP in the future.

Sorry to learn of your experience..... others may have reacted badly when being subject to baloney, irrespective of whether through a session (which turns out to be NLP), or in a Work Programme meeting with any Administrative Clerk employed by A4E.

 

Can you elaborate on i) the area of the UK covered by A4E, ii) whether A4E Clerks or a separate organisation delivered the NLP.

 

Not sure as to how extensive NLP is used.... hopefully, in due course, a recording of the sham can be posted on Youtube.

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Sorry to learn of your experience..... others may have reacted badly when being subject to baloney, irrespective of whether through a session (which turns out to be NLP), or in a Work Programme meeting with any Administrative Clerk employed by A4E.

 

Can you elaborate on i) the area of the UK covered by A4E, ii) whether A4E Clerks or a separate organisation delivered the NLP.

 

Not sure as to how extensive NLP is used.... hopefully, in due course, a recording of the sham can be posted on Youtube.

The "training" (Ha!) was delivered (inflicted) by this bunch of charlatans

http://welfaretowork.instanttraining.org.uk/

Seems they're still in business as their website's still up. I think this was a local initiative by A4greed - I so I doubt if this particular bunch of snake oil salesmen has been hired much further afield than their HQ of Derby.

No doubt there are similar outfits touting for business and making a nice living from taxpayers' money nationwide.

Originally their site included a short clip (about 4 minutes) of the trainer ("Nigel Heald MABNLP ABH, qualified NLP Master Practitioner" ) strutting his harangue. I don't seem to see the clip now! You needed a strong stomach and a complete lack of any critical faculty to watch the clip. Imagine what 4 hours of it was like.

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can i withdraw my consent as i got forced into signing the data protection thinggy yesterday?
Well I'm not sure how they "forced" you! I know they can be bullies but you have the right not to sign. You also have the right to change your mind. This is a draft wording that should do the trick:

Re: Data waiver agreement under the Data Protection Act 1998

 

Dear Pimpo,

 

 

As you are aware I have signed the data waiver/consent form thus authorising

PIMPO to share my data with other bodies including potential and actual

employers. You should also be aware that I have the right to withdraw this

consent at any time without giving reasons or explanations.

 

 

I understand that such withdrawal does not effect my placement on the Work

Programme or any employment or offer of employment made.

 

 

Please take this letter as notification of the withdrawal of my consent with

immediate effect and alter your records to show that my data sharing consent has

been withdrawn. Please sign and date the copy of this letter to acknowledge

that it has been received by PIMPO and my instructions will be acted upon.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

Gissajob

 

 

I acknowledge receipt of the withdrawal of consent and confirm that it will

be acted upon without delay.

 

 

Signed :……………………………. on behalf of PIMPO

 

 

Name:

 

 

Job Description:

Don't worry too much if they refuse to acknowledge receipt - the letter is still valid. Keep a copy for your records,

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can i withdraw my consent as i got forced into signing the data protection thinggy yesterday?

 

1 thing that annoys me as much as it sounds stupid Is the way an advisor has there own pen in there hand prior to you signing it and they go right out of there way to get you another pen, like you've got a disease or something,

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G4C389 I have to admit I have "my" work pen and don't like anyone else using it (colleagues or customers alike), only because sometimes I put the blasted thing in my mouth and don't fancy the idea of doing it after someone I dont know has touched it! Actually I don't even share my home pen with my husband :o

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G4C389 I have to admit I have "my" work pen and don't like anyone else using it (colleagues or customers alike), only because sometimes I put the blasted thing in my mouth and don't fancy the idea of doing it after someone I dont know has touched it! Actually I don't even share my home pen with my husband :o

 

I understand, fair enough

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G4C389 I have to admit I have "my" work pen and don't like anyone else using it (colleagues or customers alike), only because sometimes I put the blasted thing in my mouth and don't fancy the idea of doing it after someone I dont know has touched it! Actually I don't even share my home pen with my husband :o

 

I understand I did say it sounds stupid, just personally I felt that way

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Well I'm not sure how they "forced" you! I know they can be bullies but you have the right not to sign. You also have the right to change your mind. This is a draft wording that should do the trick:

Re: Data waiver agreement under the Data Protection Act 1998

 

Don't worry too much if they refuse to acknowledge receipt - the letter is still valid. Keep a copy for your records,

 

will do, he said that i had to sign it in order for them to send my c/v to employers

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will do, he said that i had to sign it in order for them to send my c/v to employers

 

is this something where they are telling the truth or is it yet another lie? I had the same speech made and yet they never done it for the first 14 months I was there

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is this something where they are telling the truth or is it yet another lie? I had the same speech made and yet they never done it for the first 14 months I was there

 

It's the truth. The consent to 'share' is exactly that. No signature = no consent to share personal information.

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is this something where they are telling the truth or is it yet another lie? I had the same speech made and yet they never done it for the first 14 months I was there

 

tbh i find the hard to believe anything ingeus says :/

 

i'm not happy at them been able to send my c/v to anyone so i plan to withdraw my consent, also i had to sign a second form but i can't remember what it was about :!:

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do i just hand the form in when i next attend ingeus or do i post it?

 

 

Best to hand it in!...

 

After working at Royal Mail over Xmas, post can get damaged/lost. So, when Ingeus say they never received it in the post, they may actually be telling the truth? LOL...

 

Unless you send it recorded delivery, then Ingeus could/would deny never receiving it!!! Also, hand in a copy to your local job centre.

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do i just hand the form in when i next attend ingeus or do i post it?

 

I've not got round to withdrawing my consent yet (there's no rush a.t.m) but everytime I go to WP I take 2 copies of the withdrawal letter with me. I'd want to know they definately received the letter ;-)

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tbh i find the hard to believe anything ingeus says :/

 

i'm not happy at them been able to send my c/v to anyone so i plan to withdraw my consent, also i had to sign a second form but i can't remember what it was about :!:

 

The second one was likely permission to hold your CV on their system.

 

How did they make you sign? Were they putting serious pressure on you? If so put in a complaint to the DWP.

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Does everyone with the work program who has signed up with UJM also know about not giving them the gateway number and password?

Our local providers have been trying to push people into giving those details so they can log in to the account with them at advisory meetings/job searches!

They are not allowed to request this information and neither are JCP as JCP have portal to view through their desktops but providers dont (again only if consent is given on the account).

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Does everyone with the work program who has signed up with UJM also know about not giving them the gateway number and password?

Our local providers have been trying to push people into giving those details so they can log in to the account with them at advisory meetings/job searches!

They are not allowed to request this information and neither are JCP as JCP have portal to view through their desktops but providers dont (again only if consent is given on the account).

To be fair, it is entirely optional for candidates, when they create a Universal Job Match account, to give authorisation to the DWP to access their Accounts.However, this is an irrelevancy given that, in order to create a UJ Account, candidates must accept the Terms and Conditions, Privacy and Cookies Policy - where Monster operates Universal Job Match on behalf of the DWP, where Monster is considered to be a Data Processor, and the DWP can use the data contained in whatever way it deems fit.

 

Thus, when candidates are conscripted to the Work Programme, the DWP and Job Centre Plus designates Work Programme Provider (both Primes and Subcontractors) as being Data Processors, and may distribute candidate data to any party without the need to secure authorisation or permission from the candidate to do so.

 

Conversely, when with the Work Programme, although candidates may be required to provide a Job Search Record, and the pimps may insist that the name and addresses of employers be provided so that they can "follow up on each application", candidates are not required to do this. However, if a candidate creates an account for Universal Job Match, then there is nothing to prevent the DWP from distributing all data to the W2W Sector.

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