Golden Sands Rhyl...........Late payment

[monchenblue]

just ice

 

you did not answer one of my questions again! what do i know before anybody else? you obviously think i am somebody else and not genuine, as an individual owner with his own opinion you are obviously against me because you dont agree, if you read back you will see that i am saying you dont like anything about the park not just the latest 12 months and extra fees issue, you say there are no good points, that was why i stated why stay. Skonk i didnt stumble on this forum i was told the people against the owners had a website so i simply googled it and you dont have to be a physicist to find it. if you want to discuss something then fine be you have to take the blinkers off and realise that not everybody dislikes the site and not all object, people are genuinely happy ar golden sands

[monchenblue]

Why am I not surprised that you are happy to be subsidised. The shortage of seats was caused by management allocating more space for retail and less for people.

The extended season is great for those who want it, but they should bear the full costof it.

 

you say those who want it should pay the full cost and then say you dont want it and have later called me selfish for paying my fees and then booking for every function. if there are so many that dont want the 12 months and will not be using there caravan then it shouldnt be very busy if what you say is true

[monchenblue]

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In the winter entertainment guide all of the party nights have limited tickets and some have aditional costs. There is no mention of being able to pre-book tickets. Also if you have booked tickets to every event then you are obviously a selfish person.

 

who told you there was additional costs, because when i booked tickets there was no cost for any event. how can you call me selfish for attending something i am entitled to. at the breakfast the other week i did not recognise more than 4 people who go in the main function room at weekends, so these people obviously do not use it as you have said it is simething the new owners have ruined, you certainly dont like an objectionate view to yours do you. at the end of the day i have a catavan on golden sands i have paid my fees i and all my family enjoy all the amenities we have and we intend to enjoy the extended season and the extra events END OF!!!!! wether you believe who i am or not i will not lose any sleep. why do i answer all your questions but you never answer anything i ask? you just becoming antagonistic and try to be detrimental towards my opinions, it is wuite funny really, selfish i am not

[Happy as larry]

just ice is too self opinionated and only comments on what is important to him, and not the majority involved

[just-ice]

just ice

 

you did not answer one of my questions again! what do i know before anybody else? you obviously think i am somebody else and not genuine, as an individual owner with his own opinion you are obviously against me because you dont agree, if you read back you will see that i am saying you dont like anything about the park not just the latest 12 months and extra fees issue, you say there are no good points, that was why i stated why stay. Skonk i didnt stumble on this forum i was told the people against the owners had a website so i simply googled it and you dont have to be a physicist to find it. if you want to discuss something then fine be you have to take the blinkers off and realise that not everybody dislikes the site and not all object, people are genuinely happy ar golden sands

G'd morning monchenblue, Which one of your questions did I not answer?

I took the trouble to address each point separately,so what did I miss?

How do you know before anyone else? was a question put to you! and you haven't answered!! I admit there were some things that people were not happy about under the previous owners, but nothing serious enough to cause a public out-cry as the present situation has. By your own admission you came on to this thread to support the management!

[just-ice]

you say those who want it should pay the full cost and then say you dont want it and have later called me selfish for paying my fees and then booking for every function. if there are so many that dont want the 12 months and will not be using there caravan then it shouldnt be very busy if what you say is true

 

You didn't comment on if you would be prepared to pay the full cost for the extra season without being subsidised.

If you have booked every function without consideration for others then you are indeed selfish. and determined to get more than your moneys worth.

[just-ice]

who told you there was additional costs, because when i booked tickets there was no cost for any event. how can you call me selfish for attending something i am entitled to. at the breakfast the other week i did not recognise more than 4 people who go in the main function room at weekends, so these people obviously do not use it as you have said it is simething the new owners have ruined, you certainly dont like an objectionate view to yours do you. at the end of the day i have a catavan on golden sands i have paid my fees i and all my family enjoy all the amenities we have and we intend to enjoy the extended season and the extra events END OF!!!!! wether you believe who i am or not i will not lose any sleep. why do i answer all your questions but you never answer anything i ask? you just becoming antagonistic and try to be detrimental towards my opinions, it is wuite funny really, selfish i am not

 

The additional costs were detailed in the winter entertainment guide, sent to every caravan owner. And as i said before no one is aware of being able to pre-book. The selfishness I have commented on earlier. You are all entitled to your opinions, Beacuse my views are different to yours, you accuse me of being antagonistic.

[just-ice]

just ice is too self opinionated and only comments on what is important to him, and not the majority involved

 

Of course I am self opinionated, I would not dream of forming opinions for others. that is their choice.

Talking of majorities monchenblue did not recognise the majority of people at the breakfast meeting! (I DID)

[Red Rebel]

Monchenblue it appears to me that no matter what the management on Golden Sands decide to do you will favour it. I am afraid this puts you in the minority as most owners don't approve with whats going on there at the moment.

 

Red Rebel

[just-ice]

I love this thread! Every time I check, someone with less than 5 posts just happens to stumble on this thread, on the whole internet! If I ever got into a fight, I'd want Just-ice on my side!

Hi skonk thanks for your support and observations

best wishes

just-ice

[just-ice]

Hi Red Rebel

These people are trying to convice us (and possibly them selves) that they are in the majority.

These "new-commers" are happy with the site, it is better than what they had before. However if they weren't on this site before they cannot make comparisons.

[monchenblue]

Hi Red Rebel

These people are trying to convice us (and possibly them selves) that they are in the majority.

These "new-commers" are happy with the site, it is better than what they had before. However if they weren't on this site before they cannot make comparisons.

 

 

just what i thought your comment these new comers just sums it all up, i will not get into anymore with you as you are so self opinionated it is unreal, when i make a comment of my opinion it is wrong, but it isnt because that is MY opinion alone. by the way you never did answer if you do still own caravan on the site and if you have paid your additional site fees? three times i have asked but you never answer, very starnge?!!!!!!! the list in the office for the functions is huge, so when you have your next meeting about the owners please do not forget to mention it as it is mentioned during the entertainment in the club every week, sorry i forgot you do not like the club so probably do not go in there, if that is the case what is the problem with others booking tickets!!!!!!!

[Red Rebel]

monchenblue the issue is not about newcomers, if you had read and digested previous posts you would realise that the issue is that alot of people don't want to use there caravans in winter but have to pay to subsidise those who do.

 

Why should people have to pay for something they're not going to use?

 

I personally would put the £595 towards a winter break in the canaries rather than spend the winter in Rhyl

 

Red Rebel

[catcher]

hello monchenblue

My opinion is that just-ice has got you sussed. And your fishing trip has left you with an empty net.

You and happy as larry are singing from the same hymn sheet. And your grab all attitude is in line with management thinking.

Red Rebel is right! I agree with them completely.

If you don't want to help resolve the situation, then you are part of the problem!!!!

[MRSWESTHAM]

this is such a funny thread! Why dont you that like it pay and you that dont dont?!

[catcher]

Aprox 300 vans X £600 = £180,000. A tidy sum!

That is £37.19. per van per week.

If 150 of you want the extra season you should pay £74.38 per week and the gas you use will still be subsidised.

Are you prepaired to pay that monchenblue?

[catcher]

this is such a funny thread! Why dont you that like it pay and you that dont dont?!

 

That would be ideal but the owners won't give us a choice!

[MRSWESTHAM]

why not tell them to jog on and move somewhere you will be happy ? x

[catcher]

to any new readers we may seem to have wandered from the original thread, but these are the same people who treated Red Rebel so unfairly.

[just-ice]

just what i thought your comment these new comers just sums it all up, i will not get into anymore with you as you are so self opinionated it is unreal, when i make a comment of my opinion it is wrong, but it isnt because that is MY opinion alone. by the way you never did answer if you do still own caravan on the site and if you have paid your additional site fees? three times i have asked but you never answer, very starnge?!!!!!!! the list in the office for the functions is huge, so when you have your next meeting about the owners please do not forget to mention it as it is mentioned during the entertainment in the club every week, sorry i forgot you do not like the club so probably do not go in there, if that is the case what is the problem with others booking tickets!!!!!!!

Sorry have I missed something, My comment on new comers sums up what?

Is Your attempt to hide behind happy as larry's opinion of me an excuse to withdraw from this debate?

I have never said your opinion was wrong !! I may think it is missguided but not wrong.

The rest of this post will be answered in my next post!

[just-ice]

Well monchenblue I find it ironic that you think I should answer personal questions, when you won't. Wheather I am on the site or not, I have not paid the extra costs.

What is strange!!!!!! is the amount you Know about the office. (as a van owner?) !!!

You ask the problem with booking tickets?

Do you remember the owners party last year? a lot of owners didn't get tickets because they had all been pre-booked. On the night some of the tickets were not claimed, and so deprived others of attending!!!!!!!!

Edited August 22, 2009 by just-ice

[Red Rebel]

Can somebody answer this question......

 

Are static caravans without the benefit of double glazing and central heating designed for habitation during the winter months?

 

Red Rebel

[Red Rebel]

A different park but same style of management.

 

Caravan owners told to pay up or get out - Morecambe Today

 

Red Rebel

[just-ice]

Can somebody answer this question......

 

Are static caravans without the benefit of double glazing and central heating designed for habitation during the winter months?

 

Red Rebel

 

I don't know about the specific designs, but Halsneed Park at Whiston has been a residential caravan site for over 45 years.( Before double glazing was popular in Houses.)

[catweasle]

what a good thread.

the owners that have not payed ,do have a good cause, because if their licence states they can only use the caravan March to October, then even if they pay the £595, they cannot use their caravans if their licences are not updated, as they would still be in breach of their contracts.

So be careful.