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Underdog, brilliant instigation on your part and I am deffo right behind you with this one. In the absence of any consumer lawyers, I was thinking of the Sun or News of The World newspapers:eek: I don't have copy & paste situations, in fact we have been given no agreements:eek: I have originals though....... might be easier just to give you access to my complete MBNA photobucket file :confused:

 

Pompeyfaith, with you all the way on that one:cool:

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underdog will be with you already on this all the way#

 

what about atwozee,,,was there a thread about the printing of the credit agreements and how the printing of documents occurs is that what you meant in your ealier post ?

 

ime subbed to quite a few mbna threads dont mind sending anyone i come accross re mbna to you - i think its best we have some unique thread that anyone with mbna problems gets to know about immediatly once they post with mbna in their first post or in their thread header,,,just my unique idea of the madness this eve,,,may not even work,,oops

 

anyway its worth shouting about but also then referring other caggers to the main thread or to pm a member to keep an active list of those interested parties,,,

 

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Well I've come a long way in the last 15 mths regarding MBNA ad its been an eye opener regarding what they are capable off.

 

My case should be coming to an end soon but as I say ill still be around to help others the best I can AND FIGHT THEM WITH A BIGGER STICK.

 

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now now underdog,,,,,dont let this deter you from the process, i mean, you were so special you had to get a pm,,,

 

im aghast at the lengths they will pull just to speak with you:rolleyes:

 

hahahah im sure you were polite as always,,,,heheheh

 

laters angel x

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This is all due to truecall device , have a serious peek at this you will be thankful like I am x laters angel :D

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Thanks for your support AA99, Angel, and PF.:)

 

Think the media is an excellent idea, AA99. If one of the red tops will run with this, I think they are going to be very busy looking for people's agreements.

 

Angel - I was wondering the same thing - maybe a thread for gathering our evidence? People could post up their agreements, notify us of originals, etc.

 

Think your case could be useful PF - considering their suspect DN.

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Just a word to the wise everybody - seems we have a couple of trolls popped up. One even sent me a PM. The other side couldn't possibly be getting worried could they?:cool:

 

Am feeling all left out now.....no trolls been bothering little ol' me!! :-o

 

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Just a word to the wise everybody - seems we have a couple of trolls popped up. One even sent me a PM. The other side couldn't possibly be getting worried could they?:cool:

 

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Am feeling all left out now.....no trolls been bothering little ol' me!! :-o

 

What have the nasty meanie trolls been saying to you UD.....please tell!! :D

 

It wasn't what was said, so much as the approach that was strange. (You get a sense of whether someone is genuine or not after you've been on the forums for a while, don't you?) Why would someone with no threads and no posts send me a PM as an initial approach? Call me suspicious, but.....

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Undeerdog,

 

Re post 356 im very much up for this, but i think because of the scale of this its time for DIRECT ACTION we need to get this covered in the press as much as possible and then hope they will be investigated.

 

To that end i think we should gather as much evidence as possible so every one with suspect agreements or default notices post them up removing personal information of course them one of us print them off add a page detailing where they fail put them in a binder.

 

Then we we need to hit fleet street yup in person and get noticed. while we are there we could also give copies to the regulatory bodies.

 

Because MBNA have brought so many credit card companies they will be the biggest loser :D because a lot of what they have brought does not conform to cca 1974 and or CPR

 

I also think they will be interested in my bundle because of the fraudulent DN.

 

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yes atwozee it sure is it needs direct action so ppl dont have to go though what i have its also an abuse of court powers putting claims though the system that have no cause being there in the first place PF

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i think its time we set up a meet in the chat room perhaps so we can plan a way forward on this

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Undeerdog,

 

Re post 356 im very much up for this, but i think because of the scale of this its time for DIRECT ACTION we need to get this covered in the press as much as possible and then hope they will be investigated.

 

To that end i think we should gather as much evidence as possible so every one with suspect agreements or default notices post them up removing personal information of course them one of us print them off add a page detailing where they fail put them in a binder.

 

Then we we need to hit fleet street yup in person and get noticed. while we are there we could also give copies to the regulatory bodies.

 

Because MBNA have brought so many credit card companies they will be the biggest loser :D because a lot of what they have brought does not conform to cca 1974 and or CPR

 

I also think they will be interested in my bundle because of the fraudulent DN.

 

PF

 

Completely agree, PF:) Also happy to meet up in the chat room.

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That’s definitely taking the fight to them PF – I already posted my dodgy paste up on the other thread and I’m convinced it is a deliberate attempt to mislead me.

 

Indeed Atwozee; this (allegedly:rolleyes:) deliberate misleading is financial fraud according to my new lawyer.:D

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fantastic so we say this evening at 8pm

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well optima will be getting my defence today re dodgy DN friday 13th too :D

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indeed it will ;)

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thanks pmw

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