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    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
    • Always send with proof of posting from your Post Office, so there is a trail. Conversations , are designed to intimidate into paying, Emails are designed as another way of bombarding. Only EVER communicate in writing, by post.  
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Can I just ask a question here...This thread and many others discuss the whole "Default" issue and it being a precursor to enforcement etc. But if it was defined under the CCA why are they also being used for other non regulated credit accounts, like CAR's O2 account, bank overdraft accounts even energy accounts? Are these therefore an illegal use of this term, just so commonly used we have all forgotten?

 

Just a question...was thinking about it this weekend

 

It's definately worth considering, but then until the ICO/the CRA's and the Courts take this issue seriously, and the "creditors" stop using unfair processes in dealing with claims, the issue may never come to the fore.

 

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The guidance note by the Information Commissioners Office mentions Current Account overdrafts.

 

Common available products where exceptions (to the common standard) are justified are:

i. Long terms Secured loans

ii. Current Accounts with OD facilities.

 

So in terms of Data Protection Act, it looks like the Information Commissioners Office would allow at least the Bank Account Defaults!

 

BobbyH

 

It depends.

 

In theory at least, if you use an overdraft and default on payments, recording of the negative payment history (and to a lesser extent, the actual default on your CRA file) would be accurate under the DPA.

 

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good luck finlander, an interesting read and thanks for paving the way

 

I think there are no cases for defamation seachable because experian may have settled out of court, just a musing

 

I'm interested in the new lower courts defamation cases, I thought it very unfair that it was always a tort used mainly by the well to do.

 

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Pugsley v Littlwoods, have not received the signed credit agreement only quoting reg of 1983

Pugsley v Fashion World JD williams, 17/03 2008 Debt Managers returning file to JD williams as they could not supply the credit agreement

Capital one MCOL Settled in full

Smile lba settled in full

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:):):)......

 

OK anyone heard of Mr Mills? lets keep a record on here of the employees who write and their tactics and share... bit like they do really...:-D

 

Finlander - here is a photo of the elusive Andrew Mills......

 

A_Mills2.jpg

 

Here is his BIO: Andrew Mills - LinkedIn

 

Hope this helps :-)

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There is always light at the end of the tunnel - we just have to beat the CRA's in order to see it...

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I liked this bit:

 

juggling - our credit records??

 

 

hahahahah - well spotted :-)

 

They are juggling with their own careers if you ask me - if A Mills was 'that' good why did he try and worm out of court action (UK26 v Experian)? Hmmm, speaks volumes and to be honest he seems a little undereducated if not underqualified to act in such a post.

 

Freedom of Info suggests Experian had 200 complaints last year, you're telling me that Millsy dealt with each and every one on an individual basis? Not likely - blanket letters anyone......

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Any news yet ????

 

finlander did say that he would take the Court action required off this thread and wouldn't update it in case it undermined the case as a result.

 

I can only assume a Court claim is underway - suggest you stay subbed to the thread, as I'm sure we'll find out what happened once it's all done.

 

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yes good luck indeed. Very brave of you doing this and await details of how it all went.

 

In meantime if people are bored I came acros a little report by Capital One in response to some DPA questions ... Ministry of Justice has an overall report of all sorts of things the banking lot are tying to do to empower themselves more in relation to sharing of data and cras

 

http://www.justice.gov.uk/docs/Capital-One-Bank-(Europe)-Data-Sharing-Response.pdf

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sorry you havnt heard from me for a while. Thanks for al the input here. the fight goes on and we have reached that stage when I have to stop posting details to prevent the enemy knowing the next stage and how not to fall into it.

 

good luck everybody and I wil let you know when the battle is won...

 

 

So do you have an answer for us finlander ??

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Hi

 

I need some help please.

 

My husband defaulted on an car finance due to family problems back in 2006. We agreed reduced terms with online finance and all was well until they decided to sell the debt to Cabot. The default from online finance was registered as satisfied, and all was well for 3 months then I check both our files and Crabot sorry cabot have registered the same debt although balance is more and so is the default date they registered it in October 08 - is this legal can they do this?

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Mejules

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1. Littlewoods Catalouge - No pursual of debt & wrote off £4500

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4. HFC Bank - Ongoing - SAR'd in may- Going to register at court for non compliance.

5. Barclaycard - Being very awkward but Ongoing - These are a tricky bunch but they will fold before I do.

 

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