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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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If you saw Whistleblower you will find that this is the figure which was admitted by a Barclays manager.

 

The BBc found that there was was a culture of dishonesty in Barclays. It was admitted by a manager that working for Barclays is just a selling job.

 

It seems that they want your money and that they will do anything to get it.

 

If you are claiming back your charges then don't accept anything less than 100%.

 

You have seen the lengths that Barclay's will go to to get your money.

 

We have our own experience to show that they will go to similar lengths to keep it.

 

It appears that lies and dishonesty are part of the language and of the culture of the bank.

 

It appears that the very senior management have lost contact with their bank.

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its probably less than that, if a smaller company like Yorkshire have their costs as 0.9p , then a large multinational like Barclays must have the actual cost as a lot less - just my tuppenth worth :p

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Yes, I noticed that 9 pence figure, too.

 

The piece was very fleeting and would need to be examined frame by frame to analyse the data contained on that lap top screen.

 

I wonder if the Yorkshire Bank whistleblower has shared her info with bankfodder as well as the BBC?

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I wonder if the Yorkshire Bank whistleblower has shared her info with bankfodder as well as the BBC?

 

with that wig it probably was Bankfodder :rolleyes:

 

only joking Big Guy :D

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I think the 9p was what it costs in computer operation terms. You would have to add to that stationary, postage costs, and some staff costs. I think £1.50 to £2 is more like it.

 

Anyway here's the bit form the program last night

 

YouTube - Whistleblower: Barclays Bank - Penalty Charges

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23/02/07 Request for payment sent (hand delivered to my local branch)

08/03/07 Standard Letter from Barlclays saying they are looking in to my complaint received

13/03/07 Letter before action sent (hand delivered to my local branch)

27/03/07 Partial offer of £1255 received

29/03/07 MCOL submitted

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Who put that up there?

Fantastic. Exactly what we tried to do but our recording went wrong.

 

Well done.

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Hello, new to all this but felt I had to make a comment. I used to work on the Barclays 'outbound' department at Doxford park, Sunderland, that was featured in last nights Whistleblower. We set it up in 2001 and its still exactly the same. The 'account executives' were still using the same sales speel that we were told to use 6 years ago so its not like its a problem thats suddenly surfaced, its been going on for years.

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I am not surprised by the stuborness of the headquarter, they have to deny. After all, they are negotiating a merge with the ABN AMRO in Holland at this very moment and cant use bad publicity. And knowing the Dutch (being one myself :D) this is not something they will like!!!!

And no wonder they are keen to get the headquarters to Holland. Will make it more difficult for the UK consumers to take action.

 

Oh and by the way, I never ever heard of these ridiculous charges in Holland. We were only charged with interest, thats it. So maybe a merge will bring something good.

 

Lets wait and see......

 

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Hopefully this programme will help us all with our cases. I've got to the stage where i'm taking them to court after them telling me they don't owe me anything, blah, blah, blah!!! I had an additions account.........not that i have any idea what benefits I got from it!!!!! Does this mean we can claim the money back they charged for having an additions account? I never asked for it and didn't know I was paying for it till I got my statements through!!!!

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I was tempted to go and sit in the Manchester City Centre branch, just to watch the stream of customers complaining.

I wouldn't like to be sat on the customers service desk this morning.

I wonder how many Barclays staff are off sick today??

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Thumbs up to whistleblower last night on getting Barkleys on camera admitting they profit from charges!!

Fingers crossed the courts will take a very dim view of the way the banks are clogging up the system with claims when they have admitted they are wrong and just order immediate payment to everyone!!

We can just dream..............

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I have to go to Barcalys in my lunch hour to pay some money in to my account. I will investigate on the chaos.

 

As soon as my charges are repayed and my over draft is cleared I'm closing my account. Purley on the way they treated that pensioner.

23/02/07 Request for payment sent (hand delivered to my local branch)

08/03/07 Standard Letter from Barlclays saying they are looking in to my complaint received

13/03/07 Letter before action sent (hand delivered to my local branch)

27/03/07 Partial offer of £1255 received

29/03/07 MCOL submitted

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Fantastic, I've got this on my Sky+ and will be making several DVD copies today for my own use :)

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What a proram blow them right out the water.

I am delivering my Summary cause form to the court this today, the program (Whistleblower) has given me so much more confidence.

I will try and get a copy and use it in court (if allowed).

Surely now OFT must address their illeagal profiteering policy.

How many accounts will be closed today?

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Without wanting to sound ancient (I had just left school) I was amazed how much banking has changed. I worked for LLoyds from 1987-1990 and remember phoning customers up to let them know they'd gone overdrawn so they had time to bank on that day to avoid charges.

Mind you we were a 'rural' branch, not quite out of the league of gentlemen' but pretty close...

 

Btw does this give any grounds to claim back 'additions' fees. Its clearly a service with no paperwork, only used by barclays as a means of generating cash, and clearly fraudulantly 'mis-sold'. I think the quote was something along the liine of "Additions 1st of the month £60 Million quid thank you very much"

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I've just been to the Barclays to pay some money in and the asked if I wanted to take a loan to pay off my OD. You think they would have held it down a bit on the old hard sell after last night.

23/02/07 Request for payment sent (hand delivered to my local branch)

08/03/07 Standard Letter from Barlclays saying they are looking in to my complaint received

13/03/07 Letter before action sent (hand delivered to my local branch)

27/03/07 Partial offer of £1255 received

29/03/07 MCOL submitted

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:eek: :eek: :eek: Shock horror. Watched Wistleblower and was horified (as a Barclays account customer at the Guildford Branch with an Addidtions account and a Barclaycard!!!!!!!!!!) to see what was going on.

 

I was left somewhat stunned however it was a call centre that sold me my additions account and i was aware of what that entailed at the time.

 

Going to close it as soon as i have claimed off the free mobile insurance part of the account as my phone is busted!!:D

 

Wasnt going to bother with the £60 in charges but now i think I may just. Well done to everyone at CAG ive been helped no end and I hope many more will be helped in the same way.

 

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