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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
    • when did they (who) inform you there was a 'police case' and when was this attained? i will guess the debt is now SB'd as it's UAE 15yrs. have you informed the bsnk ever by email/letter of your correct and current address? you can always ignore anyone else accept the bank,  Block and bounce back all emails. Block any text messages  Ignore any letters unless it's: - a Statutory Demand - a Letter Of Claim - a Court Claimform via Northants bulk.  
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right going to bed - clocks forward tonight so lose an hour and already need to get up early to watch the GP.

 

Andie,

But wont it be good seeing some daylight though?

 

Or the light at the end of the tunnel would be prefered !!

ANYBODY WHO NEEDS INFO ON YOUR LEHMANS MORTGAGE

either SPML/PML/LMC/SPPL; the following are DIRECT tel#s,

of the investigating & prosecuting organisations: DONOT say you are from CAG-only directly affected or a concerned citizen.

 

1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633

2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia(MD) for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643

3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955

 

4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108

(part of the Insolvency Service) investigating all the Lehman lenders

 

5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company lawyer) : @ 0207 637 6231

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Just checked on companies house website. PROGRESSIVE FIANCIAL SERVICES CHANGE OF NAME FILED 01/012/2006 BECAME WELCOME FINANCIAL SERVICES.

 

They are even cheekier little swines, swapped names on 01/12/2006 check under changes of names for both companies!! Both still exist they just did a straight swap and registered now at each other previous address, or something of the like, well done b-o-2 for checking them out. I'm offski now, sleepy time, g'nite :)

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Well Brassed-off I hope you find the info you need with the LR, I had already complained about the charge on property and if I am reading the minefield of instructions on how charges are placed, the gloucs was correct, a new charge should be issued every loan taken, or they can ask for the charge to include any security, but they have to amend this on the initial charge certificate as a note (don't quote me on that it is difficult to understand & I'm surmising this is what is meant)...they can't rely on the original only. LR in the wilds of bonny scotland are generally great, but they haven't yet confirmed that I get a copy of charge certificate, neither have they asked for payment so it can be sent, this should be straightforward, I'll be phoning them monday to find out why not, I just hope none of them were in Amsterdam watching us get hammered by the dutch :-|

 

Hi Amjestermoon.

 

The chap was really helpful, and talked me through all the form, what i needed to fill in where etc..it was form OC2, can be downloaded from LR website, and must post with chq for £10.00 fee.(not sure what would apply for Scotland though...)

I know it is going to be a minefield when it arrives, because i have another sub prime lender charge against my property and am persuing certain things with them too..

I have found wiki to be invaluable, when trying to dicipher the LR/property act jargon into laymans terms....

Please forgive my ignorance guessing you are refering to football with getting hammered in amstrerdam.(not been living a normal life for a while due to my crusades at the moment) hence the reason why i got duped into needing two Guinea pigs for mothers day by my 3 year old..still trying to figure that one out...what chance do i have with the land reg ?

ANYBODY WHO NEEDS INFO ON YOUR LEHMANS MORTGAGE

either SPML/PML/LMC/SPPL; the following are DIRECT tel#s,

of the investigating & prosecuting organisations: DONOT say you are from CAG-only directly affected or a concerned citizen.

 

1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633

2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia(MD) for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643

3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955

 

4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108

(part of the Insolvency Service) investigating all the Lehman lenders

 

5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company lawyer) : @ 0207 637 6231

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Just checked on companies house website. PROGRESSIVE FIANCIAL SERVICES CHANGE OF NAME FILED 01/012/2006 BECAME WELCOME FINANCIAL SERVICES.

 

 

Sneeeeky! Why switch listings on credit agency's back to progressive?

 

Who knows. All I know is im waiting to get the nod on one or two things and im going for the kill.

 

I wont be doing this myself, I cant handle the wait time and the run around with Welcome.

 

Im going to do some reading then hit the sac. Night night all!

 

Going to be fun trying to convince my little she should go back to sleep for another hour in the morning!

I need to change my avatar..But cant find a good replacement.

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Morning Andie,

 

And it sure was worth watching .....:D

 

Well done Jenson, Rubens and Ross Brawn.

 

It's going to be a great F1 season.

 

right going to bed - clocks forward tonight so lose an hour and already need to get up early to watch the GP.
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Morning Andie,

 

And it sure was worth watching .....:D

 

Well done Jenson, Rubens and Ross Brawn.

 

It's going to be a great F1 season.

 

It was but the most important question still has not been answered - when is Jenson Button gonna do something about his hair?? :D

 

Roll on Spain and the British GP - my daddy as a supplier to some of the F1 teams so he gets tickets - and that is one of the many reasons why I still go and see my daddy every day - keep in the good books :D

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Just checked on companies house website. PROGRESSIVE FIANCIAL SERVICES CHANGE OF NAME FILED 01/012/2006 BECAME WELCOME FINANCIAL SERVICES.

 

Yep they are all under the Cattles umbrella but progressive has been fairly dormant over the last few years whilst Welcome has been the main earner and doing all the dodgy stuff.

 

You will see accounts be transfering from Welcome to Progressive soon (it's already happening) but the accounts transferring will all have one thing in common!

 

Then my guess is Welcome in it's incarnation now will disappear like Cattles trying to lock the bad son under the stairs

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cattles is trying to make its assetts WELCOME [ACCOUNTS] look attracive for people to buy,

 

they are in deep trouble and i would doubt survive much longer,

 

i can see not only welcome being history but cattles other partner in crime, SHOPACHECK being sold off,

 

if cattles does by a miricle survive, it will be out of the listings on the stock market,

 

corner shop operative comes to mind.

 

 

the aduit results are out tomorrow, TO BE CONFIRMED

but as its the start of another financial year, i doubt companies house would let them drag it out any more,

 

WHEN ITS OFFICIALLY ANOUNCED I WILL BE THROWING THE BIGEST PARTY EVER KNOWN AND THE GUEST OF HONOUR WILL BE MR P

WE CAN ALL CLUB TOGETHER AND GET HIM A NEW SUIT FOR THE OCASION

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unless im missing something i cant see why the accounts are being transfered from welcome to progressive. Surely if the adminastrators and receivers are called in to cattles then it would not matter who they trade as because all the assetts will be liquidated and the loan book split between the creditors.......i did have a good night out and so im not feeling too sharp this morning.

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unless im missing something i cant see why the accounts are being transfered from welcome to progressive. Surely if the adminastrators and receivers are called in to cattles then it would not matter who they trade as because all the assetts will be liquidated and the loan book split between the creditors.......i did have a good night out and so im not feeling too sharp this morning.

 

Let me put it like this - steal a car and sell of the good parts before the police catch up with you! :D

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Let me put it like this - steal a car and sell of the good parts before the police catch up with you! :D

 

surely they cant get away with that, you would think that the adminastrators could track that and prevent it

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I think with the right amount of money and some very smart accountants anything is possible.

 

Like I mentioned in the earlier post, they want to keep sweet with the bond holders, screw the share holders.

 

Andie did you get my message?

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I think with the right amount of money and some very smart accountants anything is possible.

 

Like I mentioned in the earlier post, they want to keep sweet with the bond holders, screw the share holders.

 

Andie did you get my message?

 

Yes sorry computer froze last night and couldn't bothered to relog on :D

 

Very interesting same conclusions etc - so it's not just us 'looking' for stuff it's actually there.

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im sure that there was a post on the thread last week, cant remember who buy ,stating that according to some comments on the stock exchange forums the adminastrators were already in. I personally would like to see everyon get there monies back, put all the welcome employees on a remote island and then nuke the ba####rds

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the addministrators only get involved if it goes belly up or if you call them in

 

if they transfer company ownership and change company directors before this

happens,

 

get my point

 

to me it seems welcome are gone , history,

they are ring fencing its main assetts, welcome accounts [cattles] , by incorporating them in progresive financial services,

 

THEN PROGRESSIVE WITH THE WELCOME ACCOUNTS, AND MAYBE SHOPACHECK, BUNDLED TOGEATHER AND SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER,

 

AND CATTLES, IF IT SURVIVES, WALKS AWAY WITH A LARGE PAY DAY

 

STINKS I KNOW

 

BUT THIS IS WELCOME, SORRY CATTLES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

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Does anyone know the actual cooling off periods required for a secured loan and what these period are to/from? Someone said earlier it should be 15 but Welcome have been using 7 days.

 

Also the CCA 1974 covers loans up to £25,000, i take it thats before interest?

 

Felix

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The Normal Cooling Off Period Is 14 Days

 

Thats The Law

 

I Know The Cca Is Up To 25000

Cant Say If Before Or After Interest

 

From what I can remember its 14 days, unless you break it! If they made contact within that time its a serious offence. Ill get the exact quote from the FOS website.

 

The 25k limit is charge for goods or the loan amount. Mine is 17k and with interest is closer to 40K, I would fall under the 25000 limit.

This is my understanding. Basically if you had to call up today and ask for a settlement how much would it be. Then gauge your line of enquiry around that amount.

 

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My CCA says

 

'Under the CCA1974 you should have been given a copy of this agreement at least 7 days ago'

 

Is the 14 days set in concrete or can it vary?

 

If im not mistaken its 14+2 days for a CCA request. Im not 100% sure but if I am wrong im sure I will be corrected.

 

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