MET CCTV PCN _ Occupants left Carpark - Southgate Park, Stansted

[LittleA]

Hello.  I would first like to check I am in the right place for assistance with a MET parking Notice to Keeper!

[honeybee13]

Hello, welcome to CAG.

Of course we can help you. Maybe you could start by giving us the information asked for in the forum sticky thread please? Then we can start looking at your issues with MET.

Best, HB

 

[LittleA]

1 Date of the infringement 14 December 2023

2 Date on the NTK  15 January 2024

3 Date received 18 January 2024

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] No

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A

7 Who is the parking company? MET Parking Services

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Southgate Park, Stansted

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. POPLA

My grievance here, along with that of most victims, is the lack of clear distinction between the different parking areas. 

I am not convinced, from what I have read on CAG today, that the NTK has followed the necessary rules; but I await the view of others more experienced! 

Thanks for your help.  

 

2024-01-15 MET NTK For 2023-12-14 CCTV PCN.pdf

[FTMDave]

Issued way out of time to establish keeper liability.

Epic fail by MET.

[Nicky Boy]

Which means DON'T APPEAL!

As it stands, they can ONLY sue the driver and they obviously don't know who that is.

[LittleA]

Thanks FMTDave.  That was one of the things I thought was wrong, together with no mention of liability passing to the registered keeper in the event of being unable to identify the driver?

I note MET say I need to appeal to them before I can appeal to POPLA though no doubt an appeal to MET won't succeed.  I also note some have had success going to Starbucks/Eurogarages.  Are you able to recommend a course of action?

Many thanks

[LittleA]

Ha, simultaneous posting!  So sit tight and do nothing?

[Nicky Boy]

You're getting the idea...

In the meantime read up on other threads.

Try Starbucks Eurogarages as in the other threads. They must be getting tired of all the complaints by now...

[dx100uk]

actually

if it's not an ANPR PCN,

which its not

- its a CCTV Capture of the vehicles occupants leaving the carpark and an accusation on reverse trespass on other land..

, is not correct the NTK correctly dated - should be issued between 29-56 days?

thread title updated

[FTMDave]

I agree with Nick.  Go down the Starbucks/Eurogarages route you've seen elsewhere (good research by the way).

It's always worked so far.

Even if it fails, MET are highly unlikely to do court when their invoice isn't POFA compliant and that site has been shown up to be a scam on national television.

Also there is a very good chance that this car park is covered by airport bye-laws, and a private company cannot just waltz in and decide they are the law.

It would be a good idea to find out one way or the other.  Contact Stansted Airport with their webform  https://www.stanstedairport.com/help/contact-details/  and ask
   - to be e-mailed a copy of the bye-laws
   - to be informed of what area the bye-laws cover and
   - specifically if Southgate Road is covered by bye-laws.

[lookinforinfo]

Do you know if Starbucks were open at the time you were in the park? If so then by charging £100 is a penalty since they have no legitimate interest in keeping the carpark breach free for clients of Starbucks. If it is a penalty then the Court will throw out the case.

[Nicky Boy]

10 hours ago, dx100uk said:

actually

if it's not an ANPR PCN,

which its not

- its a CCTV Capture of the vehicles occupants leaving the carpark and an accusation on reverse trespass on other land..

, is not correct the NTK correctly dated - should be issued between 29-56 days?

The NTK looks like it's a picture of the vehicle DX.

(Which is not even parked, as claimed on the PCN).

There was obviously no NTD affixed to the vehicle, so the "within 14 days" rule applies.

 

LittleA, go and download their photographic evidence (save it), as they suggest and see what they've actually got...

"The photographic evidence may be reviewed at www.paymetparking.com"

[LittleA]

Hi Honda. 

MET ANPR PCN - occupants left Southgate premises - Appeal Refused - Starbucks/McDonalds Southgate Park, Stansted Airport CM24 1PY ***Cancelled by Euro Garages*** - Page 4 - Private Land Parking Enforcement - Consumer Action Group

I am going through the same loop that you went through and would be grateful if you could provide an email address for the lady at Starbucks that you corresponded with;

I am thinking it might be better than starting from scratch besides which the Starbucks website suggests X and Facebook of which I have neither!

Many thanks 

LittleA

[Honda Z50M]

Euro garages email [email protected]

Starbucks area manager, note it's a euro garages email address! [email protected]

Good luck, as someone on here will tell you start a fresh thread with your particular enquiry and these guys WILL get you through it safely!

And do not respond to ANY Met emails or messages without reaching out to this site first especially NEVER as the driver!

One EASY check date of parking and date of letter you received, if more than 14 days apart there is NO case to answer! (someone on here will correct me if more than 14 days)