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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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No it was easy as Gary has done all the hard work for us. If you go to the sticky on "New stragey - CPR Part 18" it has all the details. I just cut and pasted it all into word, printed it, took to court with my £35, wait about a week for judges decision and bobs your uncle! Must admit I was so glad I didnt have to attend a hearing but would have. This is going to be the longest 2 weeks ever. Well except for between weeks 38 to 40 in pregnancy :D

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Abbey as quiet as a mouse so far.

 

Im ok but its like when you're at the dentist and you're sent back in the waiting room for your mouth to go numb. Feels like you're waiting for ever.

 

Anyway they have almost exactly 1 week to come up with the goods....

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oooooooooo Miss Inga Catherine Kirkman is going to absolutely HATE posting that cheque Fi LOL.

 

No more movement on my 3rd claim, the court - bless them - managed to loose the AQ cheque that i KNOW that i enclosed with the AQ and Abuse Order, so i have had to re issue the cheque, the most galling thing is that i double checked the envelope as that was the last thing that I wanted :mad:

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Ah..... see therein lies the problem...... you checked the envelope to within an inch of it's life, but you failed to check the cheque, in a checkered sort of way?

 

Have you checked to see if the original cheque was cashed?

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Ah..... see therein lies the problem...... you checked the envelope to within an inch of it's life, but you failed to check the cheque, in a checkered sort of way?

 

Have you checked to see if the original cheque was cashed?

 

yes 3 times now lol, have we lost the use of our Skype?

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oooooooooo Miss Inga Catherine Kirkman is going to absolutely HATE posting that cheque Fi LOL.

 

I wish I was a fly on the wall

 

No more movement on my 3rd claim, the court - bless them - managed to loose the AQ cheque that i KNOW that i enclosed with the AQ and Abuse Order, so i have had to re issue the cheque, the most galling thing is that i double checked the envelope as that was the last thing that I wanted :mad:

 

I smell Voo doo:lol:

 

No seriously what a bummer, it takes long enough without hiccups.

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Well Hi Guys,

 

Thought I would give you a bit of an update!

 

Abbey didnt respond to the CPR pt 18 order fromthe court so DEFENCE STRUCK OUT!!

 

 

WELL DONE FIONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

they've really put you through the wringer with your claim...........really pleased for you..............bet you can smell that cheque:) :)

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Ah thanks guys,

 

I thought I would be really excited when I got the news yesterday, but its been such an emotional rollercoaster journey that I really didnt expect, I just landed with a bump. Saving my energy for the cheque arriving, perhaps :-)

 

At the start of this I read that it wouldnt be easy or fast but worthwhile and I think that it was true to the word. I thought a few letters a bit of waiting and bobs your uncle.........

 

What I didnt expect was that I would learn sooo much, at times be soo excited I would burst and be soo low at others that I wanted to leave the country; I certainly didnt expect to get on the ten o clock news :-) or that I would gain soooooo much support from new found friends that have an amazing ability to pick you up and chuckle at the most frustrating times.

 

So thank you all, CharleyFarley, Robdblynd, Kia, Icy, Mariejader, Clarion, Noobrider, Boris Becca, Reka, DS (so hope I havent missed anyone). Special thanks to Lula who just makes me laugh out loud! and GaryH who is my superhero as without his suggestion I would be waiting until that Jan 2008 court date. He has earned his place in heaven in my eyes.

 

My lord, where did all that come from, it was like an oscar speech :-D

 

Didnt think I would ever say this but see you all in Round 2, charges since claim started, although think I will email the lovely Inga to see if she will just add them on to this cheque just to get rid of me. Not holding my breath though ;)

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oh Fi, that was lovely, Gary is going to be hell to live with now LOL only joking of course :-)

 

and i have to let you know that, despite what you said, you looked lovely on the news and i am going to get some more specs just like the ones that you were wearing !!

 

You deserve it all back and i am glad that you have it too!!! Please dont disappear you have valuable advice to give out and you will be very welcome always.

 

p.s. my second claim was for charges incurred during my 1st claim, I am sure that Inga will welcome you back with open arms lol she will need to buy some more pins though ;)

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You forgot world peace lol

 

really glad its worked out well for you, one thing that did cause me alarm the other day, when martin lewis was on the Tonight program again, he seemed to make out that claiming was really simple and effort free, people who have watched this will find it harder than we did as on here it is stressed that its not always a walk in the park, and does involve some hard work and plenty of studying and reading up, hope your ready for round 2 which WILL be simple after going through this claim lol

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Ah Lula....bless you.

 

Now down to the important stuff, the glasses!

 

Go on goggle4u.com I got the specs from there $26.99 with free delivery! (american website, glasses come from pakistan) Worked out at about £14 All you have to do is get your prescription but also ask for pupil distance (they dont give you that automatically) measure your own specs for size guide (you will see what I mean when you visit the site), pick your specs and put in details (carefully) the glasses come in 12 days or 4 days if you choose express delivery for another $12 (my last pair with express delivery came to £19.38) Single vision thats for. You can get stronger ones that I think are about $38

 

Got the address from moneysavingexpert website, i think its great. I have 3 paris of glasses now. You no longer have to wait a year before you can get another pair of specs! heaven!

 

One of the things Abbey drove me to when taking all my money :-) But it was a success!

 

ps try the code 4590 at checkout and you will get 5% discount (this might have expired but worth a try)

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oooo thanks Fi, thats wonderful, I shall take a look now, I dont think that my prescription has changed at all, so i shall make a choice and wait for the prescription, actually i just like going to see the optician, cos i have neen going there since they opened up in Asda and he is really sweet and we have a laugh :-)

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Well done Fi!!!!!:D Very well deserved. ;)

 

Have you entered judgement yet? If not, file an N225 -

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/n225_0406.pdf

 

Also, I would attach a schedule of costs at £9.25 per hour. Your in the fast track so you should get them as a matter of right.

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