Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[tobyjugg2]

As BN hasn't yet responded on the thread he referred - which IMO is at the extreme 'nut' end of the conspiracy nut brigade and includes references to David Bellamys' claim -

 

"On April 16 (2008) New Scientist published a letter from the British botanist David Bellamy. Many of the world's glaciers, he claimed, "are not shrinking but in fact are growing . . . 555 of all the 625 glaciers under observation by the World Glacier Monitoring Service in Zürich, Switzerland, have been growing since 1980". His letter was instantly taken up by climate change deniers. And it began to worry me. What if Bellamy was right?"

 

...

 

"So I telephoned the World Glacier Monitoring Service and read out Bellamy's letter. I don't think the response would have been published in Nature, but it had the scientific virtue of clarity: "This is complete bullshit."

A few hours later, they sent me an email: "Despite his scientific reputation, he makes all the mistakes that are possible." He had cited data that was simply false, he had failed to provide references, he had completely misunderstood the scientific context and neglected current scientific literature. The latest studies show unequivocally that most of the world's glaciers are retreating."

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,,1487648,00.html

 

 

The thread then goes on to claim that Ballamy was then ostracised due to him 'leaking real facts .. rather than that he was ostracised by the scientific community because he was talking doodoo.

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[honeybee13]

Here's Will Hutton on the economic and other challenges facing a new PM.

 

Brexit legacy is just the start of incoming PM’s problems as cost of living crisis spirals | Will Hutton | The Guardian

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Boris Johnson’s government offered too little too late, and now trade, social care, and the economy are paying the price

 

[brassnecked]

Maybe Richard North is a nut, maybe I'm crazy but I don't recall mentioning David Bellamy  or was he mentioned  obiter in a linked article?  Anyway  Johnson is like a limpet, and none of the canditates up to much there I'll leave it.

[honeybee13]

I don't always agree with Richard North, BN, and he represents a particular section of political opinion but I thought that blog had some good observations.

[tobyjugg2]

@brassnecked

 

Its in the original thread of that Les brooks tweet image you posted!

!!!

???

[brassnecked]

Was totally unconnected it was just the tweet image that was the comment, nothing else was relevant to what I put it there for,

[tobyjugg2]

Surely you know by now that I actually always try look things up to get/check the context ....

.. and not even cursorily checking its 'genetics' ....

 O.O

 

Thats seems to be what SD did. I think Unc sometimes does similar but 'appearingly with a little more examination - and possibly personal bias there (and i am aware of my biases - I think)

 

- and with SD I wasn't being deliberately anything other than challenging of the content, or trying to do anything other than quite gently (for me) needle SD into reviewing what she posted. I know I'm usually blunt, but quite surprised by the response(s).

[tobyjugg2]

2 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

I don't always agree with Richard North, BN, and he represents a particular section of political opinion but I thought that blog had some good observations.

+1

 

But he also states he didnt vote ... among a few other things

Now i understand the conflict in the last election, and even considered no voting ( and even for a  while considered voting for johnson rather than Corbyns labour) but he doent qualify with any more than the ridiculous 'they are ALL as bad sort of waffle

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[tobyjugg2]

Grabs popcorn and a beer ...

 

 

 

"Meanwhile, Tory leadership campaign teams are reportedly drawing up dossiers full of compromising allegations against rival candidates and their aides.

At least two rival campaign teams are claimed to have handed Labour digital dossiers packed with lurid allegations against potential opponents, according to the Sunday Times – with even candidates’ staffers supposedly targeted."

 

Labour MP Chris Bryant tweeted: “The stories circulating about the various leadership candidates are so lurid they’re difficult to credit, but even more bizarre is the fact Tory MPs are circulating them.”

 

Rishi Sunak ‘dirty dossier’ sent around Tory WhatsApp groups

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Attack memo circulated, as Johnson ally Zac Goldsmith condemns Sunak over environment

 

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[tobyjugg2]

Tory rivals turn on each other as claims surface of S&M, affairs, prostitutes and drugs

 

Tory rivals turn on each other as claims surface of S&M, affairs, prostitutes and drugs

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The "bloodbath" battle for Britain's next Prime Minister looks set to deepen divides in the Conservative Party as "dirty dossiers" have been circulated...

 

[honeybee13]

It's just undignified. Such desperation to seize power.

 

Even Jeremy Hunt who I thought might be halfway sensible seems to be spouting all sorts of stuff to please the extreme wings of the party.

[snowdragon]

Boring!

[unclebulgaria67]

Tory party ripping itself apart is quite entertaining.

 

We need James O'Brien to host a question session with all of the candidates.

 

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

That would be interesting I agree, UB. But he''s on holiday for two weeks now.

[snowdragon]

oh dear, oh dear, what a to do

Boris has landed in the poo,

The Tories are all a float,

Who is to be captain of the boat?

Parties, gold paper, at tax payers cost,

Everything worked for is now lost,

Brexit, Covid, and lots more beside

Can we now turn the tide?

Oh dear, oh dear, what a to do

Boris has landed in the poo

 

by Sandy lol,

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Sandy

 

A poem Pam Ayres would be proud of !

 

 

 

 

[snowdragon]

lol ty Uncle, I used to write a lot of poetry at one time and have had several published xx

[tobyjugg2]

and does anyone think theres going to be anything other than backstabbing and internecine war among the populist tories even when the leadership debacle is over? .. despite spouting  loads of blather about coming together ...

[tobyjugg2]

how can a disgraced 'PM' be giving his family and ****** supporters peerages?

 

Boris Johnson ‘considering peerage for Nadine Dorries’

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Former Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre and billionaire donor Michael Hintze also said to be in line for honours

 

[honeybee13]

Mad Nads in the Lords? Awful, but I suppose it stops her trying to interfere with Channel 4.

 

I read that the Palace are worried about what horrors could be in the resignation honours and I can see why.

[snowdragon]

It's time to go they shouted as they stood in a line,

Each one stabbing and shouting he is mine!

He fell to the floor like a great big sack,

His cabinet ministers all stabbed him in the back,

He deserved it so they all say, maybe they were right

He just was not going without putting up a fight!

One by one they all wanted his job,

Maybe they were after the large bacon cob,

Waiting in the shadows was a mystery late show,

Oh why is it TJ , the man in the know

We are sure he will stand no nonsense and tell them where to go,

Hurrah for someone who knows not to be slow,

Put Great back into Great Britain please,

And for goodness sake, no more sleaze! 

 

Sandy xx

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

 

[honeybee13]

I can't watch it again, lol. It's too embarrassing. Good for Krishnan keeping going like that.

 

Has she stood down yet?

[tobyjugg2]

She passed the first hurdle of 20 backers

 

Johnson the corrupt liar still up to antics

- anyone who thinks he isnt going to do a Trump is deluded.

 

 

Boris Johnson blocks Commons bid to force him from No 10 immediately

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No-confidence vote was expected on Wednesday but – in unprecedented move – Labour has been denied parliamentary time

 

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[honeybee13]