Mutating Corona Virus

[citizenB]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52634759

 

Furloughing scheme extended until October. 

 

[honeybee13]

This is quite a worrying article from a public health professor in Edinburgh.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/12/tories-lockdown-social-distancing-testing-second-wave-coronavirus

[citizenB]

Certainly is. 

[BazzaS]

Coronavirus: How many people have died in the UK? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52623141

 

Amen to their final paragraphs

 

However, looking at “All cause, excess mortality” NOW gives an indication of direct covid19 deaths NOW, given it is early for the indirect deaths (people putting off medical care, not getting early cancer treatment, or impacted by the stress [financial or otherwise]) that will confound later analysis in the years ahead.

 

 

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There will still be deaths caused by second peaks or by the damage done by any lockdowns. 
The lack of a single number right now that gives the definitive picture of who's been hardest hit or who is coping best doesn't mean we should avoid all comparisons. 
But, says Prof Richardson: "You need several numbers - and some understanding." “[End Quote]
 

 

Edited May 12, 2020 by BazzaS

[brassnecked]

Which is what Dr North has been banging on about since the crisis began, Test track trace Isolate,.

[honeybee13]

The independent Sage group published its report and recommendations yesterday.

 

http://www.independentsage.org/read-the-key-recommendations/

[tobyjugg2]

the pdf

The-Independent-SAGE-Report.pdf

[honeybee13]

Thank you for the pdf, TJ.   There's a link in what I posted as well.

[tobyjugg2]

and heres the Tories back to 'rewarding' the NHS heroes and make them pay money as well as lives

 

While their rich mates get taxpayer funded contracts without oversight or competition

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-latest-treasury-rishi-sunak-deficit-tax-pay-freeze-pension-triple-lock-a9511336.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/11/healthcare-firm-advised-by-owen-paterson-won-133m-coronavirus-testing-contract-unopposed

 

 

No wonder they've 'lost' the protect the NHS banner

Edited May 13, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

That report from Independent SAGE makes a great deal of sense, its alluded to in Dr North's blog today, along with a link to the pdf, he always links to source documents.

 

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87606#disqus_thread

[honeybee13]

I think the other thing about Independent Sage is that their meeting was watchable by anyone on Youtube and they've published their findings. It's a contrast to the government's Sage group.

[brassnecked]

They just need to avoid the trap of falling into political dogmas though.  All the Parties are complicit in putting in a plan for Pandemic Flu, whilst ignoring SARS despite WHO warnings.

[honeybee13]

Yes. It's not perfect, but at least their opinion is open to challenge by other scientists.

[brassnecked]

1 minute ago, honeybee13 said:

Yes. It's not perfect, but at least their opinion is open to challenge by other scientists.

That is definitely a Plus, they are grasping the fundamental flaws in the ongoing response, and what needs to change.

[honeybee13]

The actuaries have published this week's update.

 

https://www.actuaries.org.uk/news-and-insights/news/cmi-anticipates-gradual-decline-excess-weekly-deaths

[honeybee13]

And LSE have analysed the excess death rate in care homes.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/13/coronavirus-real-care-home-death-toll-double-official-figure-study-says

[citizenB]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

 

Apparently this explains what we can and cannot do from today.. Scotland and Wales have different ideas and rules. 

 

Ryan Air does not seem to care and will be stuffing passengers in all of its seats on 40% of its planes !! 

 

 

[brassnecked]

Wales you can't go out as per before, issues identified are people who work in England but live in Wales being told journey to work not essential. They are told to negotiate with employer to stay home

[honeybee13]

31 minutes ago, citizenB said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

 

Apparently this explains what we can and cannot do from today.. Scotland and Wales have different ideas and rules. 

 

Ryan Air does not seem to care and will be stuffing passengers in all of its seats on 40% of its planes !! 

 

 

 

Really? I think I read that you have to wear a mask but even so...

[brassnecked]

This is the Welsh Guidance

 

https://gov.wales/coronavirus-regulations-guidance

[tobyjugg2]

and starmer has challenged Johnson on his attempts to re-write history (aka lie through his teeth)

 

i'll ref the telegraph :-)

 

Starmer calls Prime Minister back to Commons over inaccurate care homes claim

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/13/uk-lockdown-furlough-tax-increase-pension-coronavirus-boris/

 

and here he is in person tr-lying to rewrite history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4PeSRx8xbs

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

so who remembers this

No border in the Irish Sea

 

 

 

 

and where's that youtube vid of him claiming it would be an abomination or some such ?

Edited May 14, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

[honeybee13]

TJ, did you mean to put this on the Article 50 thread?

[brassnecked]

Worth a read for the links in the blog

 

www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87607#disqus_thread