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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
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After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Hi guys sorry to bother you

 

Im having problems with Lowell for a debt that's about 2 yrs old now with vanquish.

 

They are phoning every day and letters every other day

 

I know I have been naughty and not paid outstanding balance of over £2000 but I did try to negotiate at the time with Vanquish as I came out of work but the requested payments were too high to manage so it spiralled out of control.

 

Now it's gone to Lowell and latest offer is 40% off £1555.10 and if don't pay in full they will:

 

1.applying to county court for attachment of earnings which means your employer will have to pay directly from my wage

 

2.Instruct Court Bailiff to attend your home and recover money from you directly.

 

The account balance according to LOWELL is £2591.84 and I have had no statements of either Vanquish or LOWELL comfirming this amount.

What should I do at this stage?

 

PS Vanquish did advise debt management company and gave them my ins and outs but as I said they(Debt Management Company) wanted £400 a month which I clearly couldn't afford I gave up this stage and I said time past and on to LOWELL and many phone calls and letters ever since

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Are you able to post the letter up because I think you may be paraphrasing slightly. (cover up all personal info and post as a pdf)

 

Lowell can only get an attachment to earnings if they have already taken court action. They cannot just apply with no judgement to back them up.

 

In the same vein, no bailiff can call unless there is a judgement in place.

 

In the library are some letters to assist you in getting them to back off. If you choose to phone them, record the call-every time.

 

You have a right to be contacted in a way that is acceptable for you so long as you maintain communication.

 

They cannot force you to pay more than you can afford.

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Hi there Welcome to cag

 

First of all we need more information in order to help you.

 

1) Who was the debt with originally

2) Who OWNS the debt now

3) Rough Amount

4) Type of Debt - Credit card, overdraft, utility, phone

5) Rough year it was taken out

6) Stage the debt is in. - Have you received a N1 claim form? If so when and what happened

 

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Ok well the good news is that without an N1, lowell would have to take you to court as Silverfox states above before they can do anything like the threats in their letter.

Follow his advise above.

 

You tell them in writing WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD to pay, not the other way round. even if after completing an income and expenditure sheet for yourself and taking into account priority debts first that leaves just £1 a month.

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Lowell and latest offer is 40% off £1555.10

 

I personally wouldn't be making any contact...apart from requesting the agreement:madgrin:

 

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When you say the "debt is 2 years old", is this when you entered into the agreement.. 2011/2013 ? Or the point at which you defaulted.

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Send the CCA request. Lowrlls offering a discount mean that for some reason they can't enforce the debt and are bluffing you into paying.

 

Nip it in the bud quick as lowrlls may very well try their hand in court.

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Hi guys sorry to bother you all again

and had a bit of trouble with some posts on here lately

 

I'm going to put a few details from the Claim Form and this was sent to my wife

who is only working PT 15 hrs a week and done a silly thing

and totally ignored the countless letters and countless phone calls from Lowell Portfolio

and Lowell solicitors anyway here goes.

 

(1) issue date on claim form 09 June 2016..

 

(2)The Defendant entered into a Consumer Credit Act 1974 regulated agreement with Vanquis under account reference (Blank)for security reasons I left that out ('the Agreement')

 

(3)The Defendant failed to maintain the required payments and a default notice was served and not complied with.

 

(4) The Agreement was later assigned to the Claimant on 30/09/2014 and notice was given to the Defendant.

 

(5)Despite repeated requests for payment, the sum of £1,597.56 remains due and outstanding.

 

 

And the Claimant claims

(a)The said sum of £1,597.56

(b) interest pursuant to s69 County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum

from the date of assignment to the date of issue,accruing at a daily rate of £0.350,

but limited to one year,being £127.80 (costs) then signed by Lowell Solicitors Limited.

 

on the other side I have the court Address which doesn't sound right but

COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE

4th Floor St Katharine's Street

Northampton

NN1 2LH

 

Which I know we can't get too also a court phone number 0300 123 1056

 

Then it states The defendant has limited time

and a website to respond to claim www.moneyclaim.gov.uk with a special password.

 

Next in a box Amount Claimed £1725.36

Court Fee £105.00

Legal representative's costs £80.00

Total Amount £1910.36

 

What can I do next to help my Wife with the claim

 

 

please help it's got us really stressed out and worried

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great thanks

ok can you fill this out please

so we have all the correct info to advise you correctly.

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?419198-You-have-received-a-Claim-What-you-need-to-do.-**UPDATED-December-2014**

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes .

that link is important

please get it done

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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CCA To Lowell Portfolio

 

CPR to Lowell Solicitors

 

The northampton address is the bulk clearing center, if it progresses it would be transferred to your local court but thats all a way down the line.

 

Fill out the link that dx has posted, copy and paste it to the thread and answers in red for ease of reading.

Include the PoC in red also please

 

If you havent done so already go to mcol website and register

Tick defend all

Leave jurisdiction unticked

Log out

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Name of the Claimant ?Lowell Portfolio

 

Date of issue – 09 June 2016

What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?

 

 

(1)The Defendant entered into a consumer creditlink3.gif Act 1974 regulated agreement with Vanquis under account reference (Blank)for security reasons I left that out ('the Agreement')

 

(2)The Defendant failed to maintain the required payments and a default notice was served and not complied with.

 

(3) The Agreement was later assigned to the Claimant on 30/09/2014 and notice was given to the Defendant.

 

(4)Despite repeated requests for payment, the sum of £1,597.56 remains due and outstanding.

 

And the Claimant claims

(a)The said sum of £1,597.56

(b) interest pursuant to s69 County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% per annum

from the date of assignment to the date of issue,accruing at a daily rate of £0.350,

but limited to one year,being £127.80 (costs) then signed by Lowell Solicitors Limited.

What is the value of the claim? not sure

 

Is the claim for a current account (Overdraft) or credit/loan account or mobile phone account? Credit Card

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? after

 

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor

or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.Debt Purchaser

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? not sure

 

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? can't remember

 

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? yes

Why did you cease payments? came out of work

What was the date of your last payment? not sure

 

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? not sure

 

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor

and make any attempt to enter into a debt managementlink3.gif plan? no

 

not sure why some of this didn't come up red as I set it to red

 

is MCOL www.moneyclaim.gov.uk is this what you mean and just put defend all?

 

I forgot to put my wife was unemployed at the time and ticked unemployed, HouseWife and still got the credit card

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not sure why some of this didn't come up red as I set it to red

 

Done......andrew I think you need to research a little more and provide some answers to the " not sure " and " cant remember " responses....there is very little for us to go at above.

 

The value of the claim is £1,597.56 + court fees.

 

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thanks for the reply andyorch

 

I am only giving the information I know of and as for value you say £1,597.56 +court costs

 

I have two amounts on here with court costs the other is on the first post £1,725.36 +court costs of £105.00 and representative costs of £80 giving total of £1,910.36

 

that's why I said not sure didn't know which one to put

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I can only go off what you have typed as the particulars above......as I cant see the actual claim form but ...the debt is

 

(a)The said sum of £1,597.56 plus costs (court fee and Sol ) the rest is speculative section 69 interest that has yet to be determined.

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And a CCA to lowell portfolio i hope!

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yeah done that too martin

 

now I have update from Lowell

a letter in fact that sounds a bit nasty to me,

 

the letter starts off by saying they have noted the contents of the letter

and they have requested a copy of the agreement

and statements and once they have received them

they will forward them on to my wife

 

however this is for information only.

the next paragraph says as follows,

 

"Our client is not required to provide you with The Deed of Assignment

as it is a confidential agreement between out client

and the original creditor and contains personal information

which you have no reason to be privy to and will not provide to you.

 

No other contract or a "Deed of Novation" exists which our client is under no obligation yo provide you with.

 

Your account was assigned to our client from Vanquis

and a Notice of Assignment was sent to you confirming the same."

 

My wife doesn't recall receiving a Notice of Assignment..

 

I missed out the letter came this morning with a date back to June 30th 2016

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that's what I thought don't even know anything about that what are they upto?

 

:lol: Shame .....they must think a Notice of Assignment is a Deed of Assignment

 

Can't wait to read their witness statement :!:

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