UK CPM PCN The Gym Alperton - Atlip Centre

[FTMDave]

Also, how did you contact the gym?

 

If you're sure it is the gym who have employed these conmen, send them a strongly-worded letter demanding they get the invoice cancelled and asking what on earth has possessed them to employ bandits who are driving away their genuine customers.

[dx100uk]

wrong thread

[Bilali8]

I have attached the letter they sent with the relevant information attached.

 

If I changed my address, would that help?

 

based on this dude's thread, seems like ignoring it wasn't a good course of action?

Or even changing the address.

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462223-UKCPM-Debt-recovery-plus-letters

debt collectors.pdf

[ericsbrother]

you have complately missed the point on that thread and it looks like you are looking for excuses to fail rather than looking for reasons to succeed.

if you have moved since receiving the initial letter then do write to them and say the following.

 

" The address for service of documents in this matter (their ref) is (new address)

but just so it is clear it is denied that any monies are owed to your clients,

let alone the rip off fees you unlawfully add to this so you can inform your paymasters they are wasting their time and you are wasting their money

 

Should anyone be daft enough to continue to send papers to my old address then that will be used against UKCPM as an abuse of process and a breach of the DPA under condition 1 and my costs sought"

[Bazooka Boo]

The fact that they refer to the 'Supreme court case' and bleat on about how their charges are 'legal' speaks volumes, I haven't laughed so much in ages!!

 

Silly little children.

[Bilali8]

So, the gym has replied saying the following:

 

I understand your frustration, and know that many people would like to stay and train, or visit the supplement store for longer than 2hrs.

 

However, the time limit has always been this duration, and it's unfortunately not set by us.

 

The road the centre is on is a private road, and the company placed in charge of the car park has put that time limit into effect,

not the centre itself or the companies within it,

so there's very little chance that things will change in that respect.

 

There is now a system in place whereby you enter your registration into a tablet in the gym entrance and it logs your stay for up to 2hrs so as long as you're within that, it's perfectly safe to park.

 

I am really very sorry but on this occasion though, I'm not going to be able to get this ticket cancelled for you.

 

I have Sent a letter to the "debt collectors" worded the way you suggested, and now I am playing the waiting game.

[ericsbrother]

let the gym know

"that you will be seeking a discount that is proportional to the time you are allowed to stop there so a reduction of fees of around 30% would be reasonable under the circumstances, backdated a year.

 

This is within your control even if the parking isnt.

 

As for entering the vehicle details that allows you to enter into negotiations with them for parking so the time limit is negotiable after all and your response is thus afalsehood"

[zydeco]

This really feels like one of those places where the tail wags the dog. Would be interesting to see what the other businesses say about parking.

If you spend 2hrs in the gym then you're not allowed to visit any other business on the site because the ppc says so?

[ericsbrother]

problem is that these leased places on trading estates are managed by a company

this brings in the shysters to manage the parking

but all of the land is owned by a large corporation like British Land, who wash their hands of everything.

 

The only way to get change is for all of the companies to protest when it is rent time and that is agreed once a year.

 

The management contract for places like this tend to be interpreted as giving the MA full control of the day to day

so the chain of authority is normally accepted in court, even if it isnt explicit.

 

I agree that making a fuss to all of the companies there as a concerted effort may bear fruit

but unless you know everyone else at the gym and can persuade them to write rather than grumble it is all a bit piecemeal.

[Bazooka Boo]

I'd thank the gym for their failure to focus on their customers needs and cancel the DD, vote with your feet and go to a gym that isn't so spineless.

[Bilali8]

you have complately missed the point on that thread and it looks like you are looking for excuses to fail rather than looking for reasons to succeed.

if you have moved since receiving the initial letter then do write to them and say the following.

 

" The address for service of documents in this matter (their ref) is (new address)

but just so it is clear it is denied that any monies are owed to your clients,

let alone the rip off fees you unlawfully add to this so you can inform your paymasters they are wasting their time and you are wasting their money

 

Should anyone be daft enough to continue to send papers to my old address then that will be used against UKCPM as an abuse of process and a breach of the DPA under condition 1 and my costs sought"

 

So I have sent them a letter worded closely as you have suggested.

 

The address was changed and they are still sending letters to the old address and i only know this because I know the person living there.

 

They have ignored what I have mailed them.

 

What would be the next order of action as they claim now to suggest to their client to take me to court *laughing face*

 

Thanks

[dx100uk]

as long as you sent them a letter not email.

then you are safe

[Bilali8]

as long as you sent them a letter not email.

then you are safe

 

Thank you.

 

I did tell the person living there to not open and RTS the letters but they failed to do so. I will await a new letter from them at my new place and update this accordingly.

 

Thank you to everyone for their help thus far.

[dx100uk]

well don't RTS

you need the incase of letter before claim comes

[Bilali8]

Good morning guys,

 

the clowns have finally responded at the correct up to date address with the following letter.

 

I guess I am still to ignore and let them waste their time?

 

lol

New letter.pdf

New letter back.pdf

[dx100uk]

yep atleast they know ack your correct address.

[DragonFly1967]

More DRP toilet paper. Perfectly safe to ignore these clowns.

[Bilali8]

Thank you guys, will continue to update it when I receive another jokes letter :-D

[Bilali8]

Another letter received!

 

This time from some solicitors. Picture attached.

 

How bad is this? Does it even matter?

 

Thanks guys!

solicitor letter lol.pdf

[DragonFly1967]

That's a "rent-a-letterhead" job. It's not really from Gladrags, it's from Daft Recovery.

 

You'll notice that is says to contact and/or pay Daft Recovery, whereas if it really was from Gladrags, they'd want you to pay them so that they get their cut.

 

Complaining to the SRA (even though Gladrags have broken the rules by allowing someone else to use their letterhead) won't do any more than waste a stamp, so just file it, it's completely safe to ignore.

[Bazooka Boo]

And you can always tell if they know their left from right, when they refer to the Beavis case, which is completely irrelevant in 99% of other parking cases.

[Bilali8]

I thought it was weird that they say not to contact gladstones and to contact DRP directly.

 

Thanks for clarify guys!

 

I might just print out a few copies and use it as toilet paper for a few days lol