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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre Name of the Claimant ? JC INTERNATIONAL AQUISITION How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – 22 May 2024  Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – 1. The def owes the claimant £300 in respect of gas and electricity charges supplied by OVO. 2. Debt was assigned to the claimant with notice given to the def. 3. Despite formal demand the def has failed to pay the debt and the claimant claims £300 and further claims interest pursuant to s69 of the CCA 1984. What is the total value of the claim? £385 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Energy debt When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Moved home and they were the current energy supplier  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax/Etc...) ? No Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Debt assigned to JC International Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not sure probably  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Again can't remember but probably  Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? Changed supplier What was the date of your last payment? Never  Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No
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Hi, recently registered with copart and have purchased a vehicle.

I did not do any hpi or mileage check until I won the vehicle, I know silly me.

 

 

After I had won the auction I was curious and just did a mot history check online at and was shocked to find the mileage had been reversed a few years ago.

 

 

I haven't paid yet and contacted the manager to complain about the mileage being tampered with.

 

 

I got this message back.

 

Hello, thank you for your email. I have looked at lot **** and I see the following;

 

We listed this with an image showing there was an inconsistency with the mileage as per the attached image.

 

It is your responsibility to complete all pre-auction checks before deciding to bid or how much to bid.

 

The VRN of this vehicle is on the website for all to see and therefore you were able to complete a HPI or MOT check prior to the auction.

 

Furthermore in the additional information we listed that there was a discrepancy again please see attached image.

 

The sale of this vehicle will stand as we have advertised it correctly.

 

 

You have the option to enter this vehicle back into the auction once paid for if you no longer wish to keep the vehicle but we cannot guarantee how much it will generate.

 

 

The other option is not to pay for it and the vehicle will re-list for this you will incur a 10% fee of the hammer price.

 

Regards

 

Apart from the pictures of the car it did state there was discrepancy in the mileage showing at gov.uk MOT.

 

I thought it was illegal to even sell vehicles that's mileage had been tampered with.

Any help appreciated.

 

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they speak utter trip

 

 

you have 14 days under CRA and contract law to cancel as this was all done online.

 

 

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An issue I see is that you registered via there website and their Terms & Conditions throughout state your are a 'Trade Member': https://www.copart.co.uk/Content/uk/en/Member-Terms-and-Conditions#uk

 

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I don't think cra right to reject applies to cars sold at auction because they're all sold as seen and roadworthiness is not guaranteed.

You'll find this in their t&c.

 

Buying cars at auction is always a risk and this is reflected in the price you pay.

 

About the mileage,

it is not illegal to sell a vehicle with doctored mileage, as long as the seller tells you about it.

 

In this case they state that the advert included two notes about the mileage discrepancy,

so they have done nothing wrong.

 

Many cars have mileage discrepancy,

for example when dashboard display is replaced.

That doesn't make the sale illegal.

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How many miles have been clocked.

If it's only 20/30k and you paid scrap money, why not keep it and see how it runs.

I had an old Peugeot 405 with 190k miles on it and I was planning to keep it for 6 months.

It served me well for 6 years before failing the mot.

You never know...

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they speak utter trip

 

 

you have 14 days under CRA and contract law to cancel as this was all done online.

 

 

dx

 

Sorry DX, that's wrong.

 

 

Auctions are buyer beware and that is well known and founded in case law over and over again.

 

The only exception to this is where goods have been deliberately or even accidentally missadvertised.

They you could make a claim.

 

As said, they did advertise the discrepancies and the reg was there for all to check.

 

Auction is where the caveat emptor really applies.

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Auction or not it was advertised that there was a discrepancy in the mileage and if the only issue is the mileage I don't understand why OP is so shocked about it and went ahead knowing there is a discrepancy in the mileage.

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How many miles have been clocked.

If it's only 20/30k and you paid scrap money, why not keep it and see how it runs.

I had an old Peugeot 405 with 190k miles on it and I was planning to keep it for 6 months.

It served me well for 6 years before failing the mot.

You never know...

It shows this when I check mot history.

 

 

Test date
22 March 2016Expiry date
29 March 2017Test Result
PassOdometer reading
81,869 miles

 

 

Test date
30 March 2015Expiry date
29 March 2016Test Result
PassOdometer reading
72,097 miles

 

 

Test date
31 December 2013Expiry date
17 January 2015Test Result
PassOdometer reading
214,411 miles

 

 

Test date
3 January 2013Expiry date
17 January 2014Test Result
PassOdometer reading
119,488 miles

 

 

Test date
18 January 2012Expiry date
17 January 2013Test Result
PassOdometer reading
35,325 miles

 

 

Test date
14 September 2011Expiry date
13 September 2012Test Result
PassOdometer reading
27,748 miles

 

 

Test date
25 March 2011Expiry date
24 March 2012Test Result
PassOdometer reading
20,784 miles

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Ex taxi with a replaced odometer springs to mind.

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next time you want to buy a car at auction, go along and look at it with someone who really knows about cars. The RAC will even inspect a vehicle you are interested in for a fee and I'm sure there are other organisatiosn that offer a similar service.

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