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Thanks dx.

 

What if i file SB defence and court rejects it (say claimant produces prove i made payment in last 6yrs or i actually did but can't find record). Searched everywhere in my house over & over again for any prove of payment in last 6 yrs but can't find any.......am going mad now! Help!

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then you will get those docs in good time and be able to put them to strict proof.

 

 

imho file the sb defence

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well I see you've read a couple of legal threads only

so your task now is to read a few to do with your claimant/sols/debt type and defence

and get upto speed

 

 

but the next move is theirs.

 

 

they might wave their arms around by sending a letter disputing the Sb'd defence

but if they want to actually proceed and pay to do so

and the inherent risks

 

 

, that's their gamble.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just received Cabot's reply:

 

"we currently do not have the information (CCA) on file, however we have requested the relevant details, which will include a copy of the credit agreement, statement of account and the original and varied terms and conditions from the original lender.

 

What happens next?

 

We anticipate that we will be able to provide this within 40 days. In the likely event we are unable to obtain this information within those limit, we will write again."

 

What do i do at this stage? Do i remind them it is obligatory to supply the requested documents within the (Act's) specified time.

 

NB:- SB defence filed yesterday.

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no need to remind them,they know what they have to supply, as you have entered your defence, the ball is now in their court

 

await their response

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std response if you go read a few threads,

 

 

next move is theirs .

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Received court acknowledgement letter for my defence today. It says claimant has 28 days to contact the court if they want to proceed after being served with my defence. If they fail to do so, the claim will be stayed. (Standard letter I suppose). Also says claimant may try to resolve any dispute with me directly.

 

What do they mean by "stayed" ??

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exactly what they say

 

 

its going nowhere till the claimant provide an enforceable agreement

 

 

go read a few other threads

 

 

you'll get the idea...

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I received a letter from Weightmans LLP (cabot's solicitor) today.

 

Summary of content:-

 

"We received your defence and can confirm that our client does not accept such. Accordingly, we have written to the court to request that the matter proceed as defended.

 

However, our client is hopeful that this matter may be resolved amicably and we invite you to contact our Benjamin Davis to discuss"

 

 

The letter was dated 8 July 2015.

 

 

Where do i go from here?

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post 34 refers still

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Received notice of proposed allocation to the small claim track today. Accompanied with a Directions questionnaire (small claim track) form. Must complete and return form 27 July.

 

I guess this is standard as i've read similar cases here.

 

Series of questions on the direction questionnaire :-

Do you agree to this small case being referred to the small claim mediation service?

Is the small claim track appropriate for this case?

hearing venue?

Expert evidence?

Witness?

 

How do i answer these questions?

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Received notice of proposed allocation to the small claim track today. Accompanied with a Directions questionnaire (small claim track) form. Must complete and return form 27 July.

 

I guess this is standard as i've read similar cases here.

 

Series of questions on the direction questionnaire :-

Do you agree to this small case being referred to the small claim mediation service? Yes

Is the small claim track appropriate for this case? Yes

hearing venue? Your Local County Court

Expert evidence? Not applicable

Witness? You...1

 

How do i answer these questions?

 

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I received an email from small claim mediation service saying my phone appointment is scheduled for 19th August btw 1200 - 1700. I am not sure on some of the points stated in their statemet:-

 

Mediation Requirements

Please read the following statements:

Yes or No

I can confirm that I am willing to compromise on this matter

- (are they implying whether i am willing to accept a reduced amount from claimant if suggested; even though

(1) they haven't establish any form of relationship in terms of the CCA and CPR.31 i requested.

(2) No evidence of last correspondence/payment/acknowledgement to discredit

 

I can confirm that there has been no police involvement in this matter at any time

 

I can confirm that I have enough information about the claim to allow me to enter into negotiations

and that I do not require any further evidence from the other party before the appointment

(Again, no paperwork to show i have owe this debt despite my cca and cpr request

 

I can confirm that I can mediate on the date stated above.

 

Do i still answer 'yes' to these question and point it out during the mediation?

 

Or

 

Answer 'no' so the case goes straight to court to be decided by a judge, where i can put my case forward (what chance do i have?)

 

I need advice please, thank you

 

The whole argument is that Cabot does not have the right to enforce this debt through legal system because its SB'ed which is my initial defence.

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if the debt is SB'd & you filed the SB defence...

 

 

you refuse mediation noting that there is no point

the debt is defended as statute barred I have nothing to mediate over

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

I received Notice of Transfer of Proceedings 2 days ago from the court stating that the claim has been transferred to a County Court Hearing Centre where a judge would have to give a case management directions.

 

Unexpectedly, i received a letter from Weightmans LLP (Cabots solicitors) today, with enclosed Notice of discontinuance which they said have been filed in court today. They are discontinuing all the claim.

 

I am now thinking of calling the court to verify if indeed they've discontinued the claim (just to be save).

 

I am so grateful to you all.

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Hi,

I received Notice of Transfer of Proceedings 2 days ago from the court stating that the claim has been transferred to a County Court Hearing Centre where a judge would have to give a case management directions.

 

Unexpectedly, i received a letter from Weightmans LLP (Cabots solicitors) today, with enclosed Notice of discontinuance which they said have been filed in court today. They are discontinuing all the claim.

 

I am now thinking of calling the court to verify if indeed they've discontinued the claim (just to be save).

 

I am so grateful to you all.

 

 

hey well done!!

 

 

prob wont know till Monday mind atleast

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well done MB.....

 

Have you actually received the NoD (N292) ?

 

I will amend your thread title anyway to show the outcome of the claim...let me know otherwise if not.

 

Regards

 

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Hi

Sorry for the late reply.

 

Got in touch with the court this morning, and was told their system hasn't been updated yet to reflect recent posts/filings. Was told to call back mid week, and that the court would write me of any confirmation/directions by the judge.

 

Yes, I did receive NoD (N279) not N292, from Weightmans with all the details crossed out (don't know why they crossed out names and amounts). It was signed and dated though.

 

Will call court back tomorrow.

 

Thanks

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Hi,

 

Got a (phone) confirmation from the court today that they recieved the NoD from WeightmansLLP, and that no further action will be taken....case closed!

 

 

I just want to take a moment to say a big "Thank you" to everyone for all the advices and support. I am really grateful. :happy::happy:

 

I am going to make more donation.

 

God bless you all!

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