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    • Thanks DX,   I wasn't aware we could do that for that length of time. I'll ask my wife to check with the bank this week
    • Yeah That's correct. We left rent payment coming out of his bank account from January 2023 - August 2023 until we could find somewhere to sort out his belongings which was fine. I tried to give notice a few times from August 2023 asking for advice from Sanctuary housing how we went about this explaining his condition and that he was in a Nursing home from December 2022. I explained we don't have any legal powers to his account like POT but were in the process of going for Deputyship and that I was the named person to act on his behalf to speak with Santuary housing. I said we could provide details of his condition and proof he was now in a nursing home with date he moved in. This went ignored despite repeated attempts to contact them until a housing manager contacted us end of February 2024 and notice was finally accepted with his tenancy coming to an end March 22 2024. Although they have continued to take rental payments for the flat despite someone else living in it from the 1st April. I wasn't aware payments were still being taken till I checked his May banks statements. I had asked them to back date rental payments to August 2023 when I gave notice rather than just giving notice in March 2024 but they've ignored that bit. I don't see why they shouldn't give it back they've taken money they shouldn't have.
    • go do a Direct Debit Guarantee Clawback to your bank if you've now got control of his bank account finny.
    • Hello, Just to check I understand things right, he moved to a nursing home, you then kept paying the rent for a period of time whilst you sorted his belongings. You have asked to give notice and asked for backdated payments of rent from when you first asked which went ignored? They are still taking rent payments.   Have I understood correct?   If I've got anything wrong please correct me.
    • I contacted Sanctury housing in August 2023 after informing them my father in law who had Dementia had moved into a Nursing home December 2022. We kept the flat for 8 months until such a time we could accomodate some of his furniture that my wife wanted to keep. I contacted them in August 2023 to let them know the situation by email as I was the named person that could speak on his behalf. I informed them that we had left it to late for POT and were seeing a solicitor for Deputyship of his financies. I asked them what information would they need in order to give notice on the flat and we could provide details of his condition and nursing home. This went ignored I left it a month and then called them October 2023. I was promised a call back from a manager over the next few days. This never happened and it was end of November when I contacted them again and they had no record of me calling them. I explained the email and again I was told the local manager to the area would call me. This never happened and I ended up emailing them in January 2024 with a copy of the email from August. Again this went ignored and I had explained to them that we couldn't just go to the bank and stop the DD as we had tried. This email again went ignored. I then had a letter written to our home address in February asking us to get in contact with them (local manager) as they were concerend nobody was living in the flat. He had an email address so I copied in the last 2 emails to say I had been trying to give notice since August 2023. I also stated that I would like the rent that was paid from August 2023 refunded back to his account as I had officially tried to give notice then and it went ignored. He replied to us about wanting to look at the flat then notice could be given once he had contacted the nursing home to confirm he was actually living there now. Notice was giving for the 22 March 2024 and this would be when rent would stop and no further payment would be taken by this point. The fact I asked to be back dated went ignored. I have since noticed on 2 banks statement for April and May that they are still taking Rent payments of £501 from his bank. Further to this which seems very strange. He was with Eon Next for his utility bill again we were having problems getting this stopped as they needed a named person on his account which there wasn't one despite me managing his online account for him. I didn't check the email address that often that I used to set it up and went to check as noticed the credit he had built up with not living there was all getting refunded in February. The email said £600 would be refunded to his account with a (sorry you are leaving us message) but how can he leave as nobody but himself had access to speak with them. I also noticed the lady in the flat above him had a letter from her bank sent to his address with his address details but his name which was dated 4th March well before we had given notice and it said (thank you for giving us your new address details) we have set all this up for your account.   So Sanctuary housing must have been aware he wasn't living there from the ignored emails for the lady above to start changing address details to move into his flat before the housing manager had even got in contact to ask if anyone was living there. What I basically want to know his do we have any legal standing to claim the rent back from when I first contacted them in August 2023? There is roughly £3000 to come back  
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I am currently in the middle of replying online

(they have tried various tricks in the past to get my signature,

so I shall not be replying in writing nor sending anything to their solicitors

but using money claim online),

 

 

explaining my intention to defend under the Limitations Act

and due to the lack of a CCA,

as well as not acknowledging the debt or making any form of payment on it.

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Please follow the info given by dx. It is important.

 

The SB defence has to be written in a proper way.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

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drop all comms

 

 

get that link done please

 

 

BEFORE you do MCOL or anything more.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Can you tell us your previous username please

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3. An payment plan offer I made years ago of £10 per month was rejected.

How long ago did you make the offer.

 

 

If it is truley SB'd that in itself is an absolute defence.

If so, what I would do (to bring early closure) is acknowledge the claim

and send a letter to cabot informing them that you have completed the AoS

and will be your intention to defend the claim on the basis that it is clearly statute barred.

 

 

Invite them to withdraw the claim and

that if you don't receive notice of discontinuence within 7 days

your defence will be submitted to the court.

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Name of the Claimant:

Cabot Financial (UK) Limited

 

Date of issue: 17th December 2014

Time to acknowledge: 5th January 2015

Time to defend: 19th January 2014

What is the claim for?:

The Claimant claims payment of the overdue balance

due from the Defendant(s)under a contract between the Defendant(s)

and Halifax dated on or about Dec 05 2005

and assigned to the Claimant on Nov 28 2008 in the sum of 2226

 

PARTICULARS

 

DATE: 28/11/2014

ITEM: Default Balance

VALUE 2226

Post Refrl Cr: NIL

TOTAL: 2226

What is the value of the claim? TOTAL AMOUNT: 2411

Is the claim for a current or credit/loan account or mobile phone account? Credit card

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? Before. 5th December 2005

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor

or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. The debt purchaser, Cabot Ltd.

Were you aware the account had been assigned

– did you receive a Notice of Assignment? No. I was only aware after receiving demands from Cabot Ltd.

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? No.

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year? No, not for any years.

Why did you cease payments?

I lost employment through ill-health, could not afford them,

Halifax refused to stop charges and interest,

and payment insurance refused my claim.

 

What was the date of your last payment? Sometime in 2007.

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Yes, regarding the total amount owed, which I had never borrowed.

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor

and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan?

Yes, via telephone, which was declined.

However I refused to discuss my personal income/outgoings,

and only offered what I could afford at the time.

 

re the CCA: I have done so, Halifax informed me it did not have a signed CCA, and returned my request and fee.

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old thread merged.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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can you go get your credit file please

and check if this debt shows please

need to confirm you last payment date if poss

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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cpr and CCA?

 

 

go get noddle report see below

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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are all you old addresses showing?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks. I already made a CCA request a few years ago, they claimed to not have one and returned my request and the postal order for the fee.

 

 

you MUST send a new CCA request to the claimant

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes I've only have two addresses ever and both are showing (I only spent 11 months at the other address, never informed any banks of this or signed to the electoral register there), as well as my fiancee on my account as a linked person. Halifax is linked to my file it says, and my bank (Lloyds) made two checks on me this year which are showing. There are no records of any loans, credit cards, or anything else, and my "score" is 4/5.

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looks like it SB'd then

 

 

cra confirms it

 

 

and no payment to the claimant since assignment confirms it too

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nope they have no need to respond and often now don't

but the CCA request they MUST comply with

 

 

get it sent NOW

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Update:

Received a letter from the solicitor representing Cabot today (14/01/2015), dated 5th January 2015, envelope stamped 6th January by the Post Office/Royal Mail. Somehow it only arrived this morning. This is in reply to my CPR31.14 request letter of 19th December 2014.

 

Dear sir,

 

Cabot Financial (UK) Limited v. Mr Joel Hall

 

Please find enclosed a draft letter which purports to come from you but which is unsigned.

 

You will appreciate that we must ensure we are corresponding with the correct person and that anyone requesting information is entitled to receive it.

 

Please ensure that all documentation is signed failing which we will not acknowledge receipt nor provide any response.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Mr S Bray, Litigation Executive

pp Resonts Solicitors Limitied

 

Sneaky attempt to obtain my signature? After all, they shouldn't have anything to compare it to. At any rate, they have not asked for an extension within 14 days of my request and offered a new date for which to fulfil my request.

 

Opinions?

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usual rubbish from rectums designed to intimidate and unsettle a defendant.

 

 

if you wish you can sign it

 

 

but the CCA is the important one

and they MUST reply

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Needless to say, I will not be providing anything with my signature on. I know, as do they, they haven't got the documents. They are after my signature to forge them. Happened a while back, as I posted on here. I forged Adolf Hitler's signature onto a letter - I then received a copy of a credit card application form (with the terms and conditions on the back dated 2 years after I took out the card) and was told by the bank "that's the CCA". It had Hitler's signature on it...

Anyway, I went to the MoJ website and viewed the Civil Rules and Practice Directions, Part 31: nothing at all about needing a signature, and besides a signature made, which is not witnessed, is not proof of identity, and is meaningless in this case. I have until this Friday to submit my defence.

 

Anyway, haven't heard a peep regarding the CCA request. The first sent off years ago was returned along with the postal order, with an admission they had no signed CCA. This one appears to simply be ignored. At any rate, according to the information they put in the claim, it was over six years with no movement.

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