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    • Thank you for posting the full sar.  So they definitely did place the PCN on your vehicle only to remove it 10 minutes later apparently because of a possible problem with the driver which seems highly unlikely [the reason for the PCN removal ]. Did the driver even see the warden at all while they were photographing the car . They did take several pictures spread over 6 minutes or so using a flash so the driver would have seen the car being photographed had they been there.   Very strange. You said that you had an onboard camera -are you able to go back and see what happened? Was the warden wearing UKPC clothing? In any event that PCN has not complied with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.  That should be a Notice to Driver and the follow up PCN should not be sent until 28 days AFTER the day the first PCN  was given were it a postal PCN. Instead the knuckleheads have issued the follow up PCN on the 28th day of their dodgy first PCN and so totally blowing all their machinations to get over the fact that  the windscreen ticket wasn't a windscreen ticket. In neither case, even if they had been sent properly, they were non compliant. neither of them showed the period of parking which is specified in the Act. Both just show a time of issue at 20.02 but no end period. Their  "mistake" in not giving 29 days  before issuing their keeper Liability notice, makes the PCN more than just non compliant. It means that the PCN was unlawful and probably deliberate as had UKPC waited until the correct time to send that Notice, it would have delayed it until the Monday. And as they probably knew that had not received the original windscreen PCN perhaps they thought it better to rewrite the Law. Part of that is conjecture but the basic fact is correct-the Notice was unlawful. And for that there should be repercussions. My first thought was the ICO but  as it isn't really a breach of data protection it goes higher than that. Perhaps the Site Team would know. I did look at the Legal Ombudsman but they are for complaints against lawyers.  I cannot imagine a decent lawyer even countenancing such a thing though were are dealing with third rate ones when involved with some parking companies.   For reference PoFA Schedule 4 S8 and S9 [2][f] f)warn the keeper that if, at the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to keeper is given— Their PCN dated 12/04/24 states "as 28 days have now elapsed since the Notice to Keeper was given, Parking Control management [UK] Ltd. [the creditor] are now able ...........to recover the unpaid parking charge from......... the registered keeper. The original PCN was marked by them as being deemed delivered 15/03/2024 so 28 days +1 =13/04/24. Their letter was sent one day early which means they altered or ignored the law . I have never seen that "error" on any other Notice from any of the parking companies. As the Member did not receive the original PCN which was originally a Windscreen ticket but they then changed it to a postal one for some fanciful reason the whole scenario reeks of skullduggery. I am going to ask again from Hamz why their warden might have felt scared about a confrontation with the driver but even if there was a chance the PCN was placed on the windscreen and not removed for two minutes but pictures had already been taken so why remove it? And then why produce a brand new keeper Liability Notice the like of which I have not seen before.  
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    • Thank you @BankFodder. Apologies for not being clear. Here are some further details that might help clarify: The item in question is a replica of a movie prop. I build highly accurate movie props as a hobby and these items are machined by enthusiasts in very small runs (50-100) and once they're gone, they're gone. I missed out on one of these runs but a friend from the community had purchased two and decided he only needed one so offered to sell me his other one. I bought the replica prop from him and asked him to send it to my Stackry address in USA. He is based in USA and I am based in the UK. Had he shipped it directly to me in the UK, due to the size and weight, the shipping would have been expensive. Stackry is a service in the USA that has access to cheaper couriers. I have used it many times before without any issues. I simply sign in to my account when they notify me the package is received, fill out the customs form, and select my home address in the UK, select one of the couriers after receiveing a quote based on size and weight and pay the shipping fee. On this occasion I chose GlobalDirect. I had no idea the item would be handed over to Evri on arrival to the UK. The initial tracking was with DHL e-commerce. The second tracking number on arrival to the UK was with Evri. It was Evri who lost the parcel through negligence. Below is a complete timeline of events. The item made its journey from my friend in the USA to Stackry, USA without any problems. I was notified when the package was received. The item also made its journey via DHL/Global Mail Direct from the USA to the UK without any issues. The problem happened in the UK, with Evri.   I did not take out insurance. The price of the item was £185.01 Shipping from Stackry, USA to my home address in the UK with Global Mail Direct was £17.87. Total £202.88.  The letter of claim is below. The 14 days is not up yet but I have every intention on following through. I have no priror experience with this which is why I came here for advice, but I have found the online claim form on Gov.UK and intend to start there.   TIMELINE:   Item purchased from individual in USA on 26/3/24. Payment made by PayPal. Item shipped to Stackry, USA on the same day. Item advised received by Stackry on 29/3/24. Redirected by myself to my UK home address on the same day. Payment made and selected Global Mail Direct as the courier of choice. Tracking number generated for DHL e-commerce 02/04/24: arrived to the UK and cleared customs 03/04/24: processed at local distribution centre, forwarded to delivery agent (Evri) - new tracking number generated 06/04/24: marked”out for delivery” at 08:52. No delivery attempt made all day. At 21:21 marked “on its way back to sender”.  09/04/24: no further updates since “there’s an issue with your parcel. 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I have spoken to your representatives many times and they did not offer any help trying to track down the missing parcel or offer me any option for compensation. I have explained that I am both the sender and the recipient, and I am therefore within my rights to claim compensation for this missing item. I have full records of the item from the point of purchase, to its journey with DHL in the USA, and with EVRi in the UK, until it was lost in the system. The value of the item including shipping is £202.88.   From you I am claiming £202.88 paid in full to compensate the price of the item (£185.01) plus international shipping (£17.87).    Listed below are the documents on which I intend to rely in my claim against you: Screenshots of transaction made with the original seller of the item, including photographs of the item and Paypal transaction. Screenshots of the item received by Stackry in the USA and shipping cost via Global Mail Direct to my address in the UK. Screenshots of tracking with DHL Screenshots of tracking with EVRi Email correspondence with various customer support members at EVRi     I can confirm that I would be agreeable to mediation and would consider any other system of Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) in order to avoid the need for this matter to be resolved by the courts.  I would invite you to put forward any proposals in this regard.  In closing, I would draw your attention to paragraphs 15 and 16 of the Practice Direction which gives the courts the power to impose sanctions on the parties if they fail to comply with the direction including failing to respond to this letter before claim.  I look forward to hearing from you within the next 14 days. Should I not receive a response to my letter within this time frame then I anticipate that court action will be commenced with no further reference to you.    
    • Hi All, Just a quick update...........nothing to report - no contact from ParkingEye or BPA as yet. I am sending a complaint to the ICO today as suggested as the others have had more than enough time to at least acknowledge receipt of my requests / complaints.   Thanks to all. T.
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12 months ago we bought a vehicle for the company.

we knew it needed work to bring it up to mot standard and make it serviceable so we took it to our usual hgv garage.

 

we have used this garage regularly for the last 5 years and have never had problems but this truck took a month before we got it back as they were busy.

 

we got the truck back and took it for mot.....it failed. this mot cost us £138 for the truck.

we returned it for further repairs and took it for a re-test at another £78 retest fee.

 

other work not completed....

 

no fuel gauge

no hydraulic fluid in external tank

steering wheel not straight (obscuring view of speedo)

auxilary lights not working

headlamp aim (mot fail)

siezed pins and bushes in equipment

front fog lamps not working

no 12 volts for radio etc

no greaseable parts were greased (when other mechanic greased everything it was full of OLD black grease)

tacho graph not calibrated

fuel and oil filters not replaced (photo evidence)

 

initialy we made an upfront payment OF £500 expecting the bill to be approximatly £1000 maximum as it seemed there wasnt much wrong with it.

 

a further £400 was paid around the time we collected it. a month later we recieved a bill for £1800 !!!!!!! charging us for wiper blades we supplied and fuel filters that were never fitted :mad2: at this i refused to pay any more.

 

the total labour charge was for 28 hours !!!!!! about 20 hours more than required accourding to 2 other mechanics.

 

we responded to court papers within the correct time frame but due to other reasons we didnt get the defense and counter claim in on time (i did ring northampton and they said if we got the docs emailed over before 4pm it would be processed) the next day i got a notice of judgement from the garages solicitor.....before i even got the notice from northampton.

 

what (if any) are the chances of this getting set aside? how do i appeal this decision ? can i make a counter claim still ?

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Did you email the documents and how long ago was the judgment?

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Recent then. That's good. I'm going to move your thread to legal issues so the guru's there can help you. :)

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Comments from andyorch:-

 

 

Chances are very good ..they have proof they met the 4.00pm deadline..they have proof they have suffered loss...they dont state the time lag between when the defence was due and when they rang CCBC ...assuming it was the same day then they should make application on the
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Your chances of success are excellent. Begin the set aside process immediately. Follow the set-aside link here to see how it's done.

 

Bettors know if you need any help with drafting any documents.

 

If they will not agree to the set-aside then your grounds for the set-aside are that you have an good chance of success if you are permitted to defend.

 

It will help your application enormously if you can prepare a draft defence.

 

However, you better make sure that you prioritise the deadlines in this. There is no place here for "for other reasons". You have seen what happens if you don't do the job properly.

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Your chances of success are excellent. Begin the set aside process immediately. Follow the set-aside link here to see how it's done.

 

Bettors know if you need any help with drafting any documents.

 

If they will not agree to the set-aside then your grounds for the set-aside are that you have an good chance of success if you are permitted to defend.

 

It will help your application enormously if you can prepare a draft defence.

 

However, you better make sure that you prioritise the deadlines in this. There is no place here for "for other reasons". You have seen what happens if you don't do the job properly.

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Post it up here streetlegal.

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Dear Sir/Madam,

We wish to respectfully apply for the current judgment against XXXXXXX to be "set aside" and full leave to file a defence.be granted on the basis that we were understanding that the legal time frame would be the same as dealing with many other government organisations in that it would be "WORKING DAYS" and as such we have fallen upon a time-out situation.

We are making this application with this in mind and the fact that we feel after seeking legal advice we have a very strong defence to the claim and consider that it would be in the interests of Fair and proper justice that the judgement be set-aside and that we be allowed to present our arguments.

 

Further to the above information we must inform yourself that another issue causing the delay in filing our defence was the difficulty in contacting Mr XXXXX the HGV mechanic that resolved our issues with the vehicle at the heart of this matter.

Since he has closed his buisness he has also moved home twice and this has caused great difficulty contacting MrXXXX for his supporting Statement.

May I also add the fact that i have tried over many months to contact XXXXXXXXX, to ask him to explain the excessive labour charges (28 hours) on our invoice.

My other estimates recieved were in the region of 8 to 10 hours maximum for the same work, some of the work i must point out was not done.

 

Defence and Counterclaim

We have used the services of XXXXXXXX for the last 5 years without issue and during this time we have had a "friendly" account with the same, and we have always paid for his services.

During october 2013 we purchased a replacement recovery vehicle and delivered it to XXXXX, prior to purchase it was inspected by myself and my buisness partner and we agreed that although it was running and driving it should have an inspection/ and a few remedial repairs.

With the price paid being representative of its condition we bought it and asked XXXXXXXX carry out these repairs and to bring it upto a serviceable and M.O.T. standard with an estimate of £800 including the tachograph calibration and mot test.

We would expect the final bill to be no more than 15-20% extra or for the claimant to contact us if he thought the estimate was going to be double. he did not.

Having considered the final bill and gained opinions we feel we are being overcharged to say the least, given his reluctance or inability to explain or justify the 28 hours labour he is trying to charge us for.

Some items on his invoice were supplied by us and we can supply supporting invoices.

we have photographic evidence and a statement that the fuel filters on the invoice were never fitted and caused a fault with the vehicle which caused further expense to us.

When presented for the M.O.T. test it failed due to work that XXXXXXXX had not done.

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Without seeing the particulars of claim it's difficult to comment in the defence. Also you've put "defence and counterclaim", but there only appears to be a defence.

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We wish to respectfully apply for the current judgment against xxxxx to be "set aside" and full leave to file a defence be granted on the basis that we were understanding that the legal time frame would be the same as dealing with many other government organisations in that it would be "WORKING DAYS" and as such we have fallen upon a time-out situation.

We are making this application with this in mind and the fact that we feel after seeking legal advice we have a very strong defence to the claim and consider that it would be in the interests of Fair and proper justice that the judgement be set-aside and that we be allowed to present our arguments.

We first contacted Northampton county courts on 15/10/2014 @14:00 and were advised that if we emailed the defence/counter claim over before 16:00 it would be processed, we have since found out that this did not happen.

 

Further to the above information we must inform yourself that another issue causing the delay in filing our defence was the difficulty in contacting Mr xxxxx the HGV mechanic that resolved our issues with the vehicle at the heart of this matter.

Since he has closed his buisness he has also moved home twice and this has caused great difficulty contacting mr xxxxx for his supporting Statement.

May I also add the fact that i have tried over many months to contact xxxxx, to ask him to explain the excessive labour charges (28 hours) on our invoice.

My other estimates recieved were in the region of 8 to 10 hours maximum for the same work, some of the work i must point out was not done.

 

Defence and Counterclaim

We have used the services of xxxxx for the last 5 years without issue and during this time we have had a "friendly" account with the same, and we have always paid for his services.

During october 2013 we purchased a replacement recovery vehicle and delivered it to xxxxx, prior to purchase it was inspected by myself and my buisness partner and we agreed that although it was running and driving it should have an inspection/ and a few remedial repairs.

With the price paid being representative of its condition we bought it and asked xxxxx carry out these repairs and to bring it upto a serviceable and M.O.T. standard with an estimate of £800 including the tachograph calibration and mot test.

we got the truck back and took it for mot.....it failed. this mot cost us £138 for the truck.

we returned it for further repairs and took it for a re-test at another £78 retest fee.

We would expect the final bill to be no more than 15-20% extra or for the claimant to contact us if he thought the estimate was going to be double. he did not.

Having considered the final bill and gained opinions we feel we are being overcharged to say the least, given his reluctance or inability to explain or justify the 28 hours labour he is trying to charge us for. we would like to counter claim on the excess 20 hours @ £900.

We also consider payments made so far to cover all costs and so would agree to "let things stand" as they are to avoid any further costs to xxxxx

Some items on his invoice were supplied by us and we can supply supporting invoices.

we have photographic evidence and a statement that the fuel filters on the invoice were never fitted and caused a fault with the vehicle which caused further expense to us.

 

Many thanks for your co-operation in this matter

 

 

THATS WHAT I SENT IN THE END

 

SO HERE I AM SAT BACK HAPPILY IN THE KNOWLEDGE I HAVE SENT MY DOCUMENTS IN...........

 

I rang Northampton today to make sure it was received........NO IT HAD NOT

advice to anyone else sending emails........look for the AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED "bounce back" reply and if you dont get one then send each page individualy as you WONT get a bounce back telling you the message was too big like lots of other organisations do

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got a letter today transfering the case to a court near the company claiming on there behalf.

does this mean my n244 is working or is there more to this yet ?

does the claimant get copies of my defence ?

 

basicly what happens next and in what time frames

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Yes it is but the hearing should be at your local County Court not theirs assuming you are defending as a Litigant.If you have provided a defence with the application then yes they will have had a copy.

 

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spoke with northampton and was advised it was a clerical error and papers recieved a few days ago have it listed this wednesday at our local court.

 

i dont know weather to get excited yet but today got a letter from his solicitor advising that they are no longer representing him !!!!

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You can't be complacent but I agree with f16.

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There will be may be 3 or 4 court rooms.

As you enter you will have to empty your pockets and go through security.

You the check in with the Court ushers to let them know you are there.

There will be a "listing" note on the wall with the cases to be heard that day and the order they will be heard.

 

In the Court there will be one Judge (Magistrate).

He will have read the file and ask both parties to explain their position.

 

The questions will be addressed to the "Claiment" first

Then you will get the chance to respond.

 

Take a note pad and pen to write down any relivent points.

Take your documentation so you can prove what you are sayng is the truth.

 

Stay COOL

You will be fine :-D :-D :-D

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