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in 2011 i purchased a piece of machinery on finance, in 2012 i sold it, i never settled the finance, it was reprocessed in 2013, in july of this year i was arrested for fraud, the amount is £20,000.

 

i made a mistake, i had settled finance with this company before and after this particular sale, never heard any more from either the man i sold it to or the finance company , what is going to happen

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Can you give more info? What type of machinery? How did fraud ( a criminal offence) become considered for a civil debt?

 

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in 2011 i purchased a piece of machinery on finance, in 2012 i sold it, i never settled the finance, it was reprocessed in 2013, in july of this year i was arrested for fraud, the amount is £20,000.

 

i made a mistake, i had settled finance with this company before and after this particular sale, never heard any more from either the man i sold it to or the finance company , what is going to happen

 

 

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What are the grounds for the accusation of fraud?

Is it "selling good that did not belong to you"

Who has laid the evidence regarding the alleged fraud?

 

 

Your post is confusing. " you sold it" (the machinery?) " Never settled the finance" (so fraudulently sold?).

 

 

Then: " I made a mistake." "I had settled the finance before and after this particular sale".

 

 

The you say you " have not heard from either Man". Are the sales/purchases made by private individuals or companies?

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Can you give more info? What type of machinery? How did fraud ( a criminal offence) become considered for a civil debt?

 

Please give as much info as possible as there are too many unanswered questions.

It has not become a civil debt.

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arrested by police, not been to court or cautioned, just arrested and now to answer bail on monday

 

it was a piece of plant machinery, the finance company i used never made contact about that item, but i had other items on finance with them which i settled the finance

 

i was arrested queistioned and released on bail

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Im concerned here.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?431837-benefit-fraud&p=4602987#post4602987

 

Two different threads related to you being arrested and interviewed for fraud at the same time but for different reasons.

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arrested by police, not been to court or cautioned, just arrested and now to answer bail on monday

 

it was a piece of plant machinery, the finance company i used never made contact about that item, but i had other items on finance with them which i settled the finance

 

i was arrested queistioned and released on bail

 

 

So as yet you do not know who made the complaint?

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no idea, maybe the finance company, maybe the guy who purchased the machine

This I guess will come down to the simple fact did you own the machine you sold?

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Was this machine only leased to you over a period, where you would own it at the end of the period ? ( lease purchase contract )

 

If it was sold, you did not settle the finance and stopped paying the lease, I should imagine that it would be considered fraud.

 

Suggest that you contact a Solicitors and do not allow yourself to be questionned by Police without a Solicitor being present. If you cannot afford your own Solicitors, the Police have to provide a duty Solicitors.

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You can ask for the " duty solicitor" to be present when you answer your bail.

You can refuse to answer questions until a solicitor is present.

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