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I have received a hand delivered letter in my letter box today from BAILIFFS

 

It is addressed to my son who hasn't lived here since he was 17.

 

I dont normally open any of his post and just bin it however this letter was not totally in its envelope.

 

I have been estranged from him since he was this age as he was in considerable trouble with the police

 

Now I have notice that these people are to return to my address to remove goods

 

Help what can I do

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No he has nothing here !

 

But how do I stop them calling I have visions of them knocking my door down

 

I am disabled and to add to that I have just had major surgery on my leg so therefore cannot walk - and I'm not too fast on these crutches it would take me 10 minutes to get to the door in this time they could gain entry before I even had a chance of getting there

 

I am so worried about this

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whats the debt all about?

 

p'haps better to contact who sent the bailiffs around

 

was it the court?

 

is this a magistrates fine?

 

more info please

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Don't worry - they won't break any doors down.

 

You owe them nothing, you are not the debtor and they aren't after you. What you need to do is tell them that your son does not live there, and hasn't for several years, and that he has no property there at all. They will probably want to see proof, in which case, Council Tax bill for the current year (and if possible lastyear too) will prove who lives there.

 

Start by phoning them and just tell them the situation.

 

Do you know where your son lives? They may press you to tell them, but of course you don't have to. They can't take your property and they can't force their way in.

 

How did they get your address, by the way? It suggests the car is registered at your address - if so, you need to also get in touch with DVLA and get them to amend their records. Do you know if this is the case?

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I have no idea how they got my address maybe my son did register it here

 

Any post I get for him goes straight in the bin I have had enough of the childs antics over the years

 

Will contact DVLA now - 2 years council tax bill :/ I'll have to hobble around to try and find one

 

Shall I phone to speak to them or email them?

 

You sure they cannot force entry this notice says they have a warrent of execution

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Phone - much quicker. Check whether DVLA have your address - if so, tell them you want it removed and they will tell you what to do - to avoid this sort of thing happening again.

 

If the bailiff did not get your address from them, then don't worry - but do speak to them as I suggested above. Phone them and tell them the situation.

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If there is penalty charge for parking then it is CLEAR that you son still has a vehicle registered at your address. I would assume that you wold also receive yearly road fund licence reminders from DVLA each year as well.

 

Which bailiff company has written to you?

 

PS: The warrant is addressed to your son. It allows bailiffs to seize goods belonging to HIM and not you. I would suggest that you do not open the door to any bailiff and they do NOT have the right to force their way into your home.

 

Jamberson has provided good advice above. Please post back with details of the bailiff firm.

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Collect Service Limited

 

says called today with a view to levying distress (certainly did that)

 

No letters from DVLA has come for my son that I can remember ?

 

See if you can phone the bailiff (record the call if you can) to tell them that your Son has not lived with you since he was 17 and there is nothing at the address that belongs to him. Advise them that you will obtain a statutory declaration to this effect if need be. See what they say and post back.

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Sent them an email with 2 years council tax bill

 

Noting to them that they have not acknowledged the 2 email notices I have sent them and have requested confirmation of receipt by return

 

don't think can record any calls but will look for a way on my phone ???

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Phone the bailiffs on Monday morning to advise them of the situation. If you know which council they are chasing the parking fine for, you could contact them if the bailiffs don't listen.

 

If you have an Ipod or phone with a recording device, you could use that by placing the microphone near to the speaker part, so it picks up what they are saying, as well as what you are saying.

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Tried phoning council to get yet another automated line - left the requested message for them to call me back that was on Thursday to no response

 

Think I'm going to stick a note to my front door as no way I'm getting up hobbling to the door to speak to these bully boys

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no your son does not live with you.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You need to contact Collect services with a copy sent to the council that issued the PCN.

 

You need to tell them that 1, your son has no connection to your address since he was 17 and you have no idea of his whereabouts. 2 you need to make it clear that you are vulnerable due to your disability so they SHOULD not even make a visit.

 

They can do nothing. They cannot break in, even with a warrant.

It maybe that they have traced your son to his last known address, which happens to be your's. I would be inclined to call the bailiff company (not bailiff) and let them know. This should stop any further bailiff visits.

 

If it dosnt then you would need to write a formal complaint to the CEO of the issuing council and get them to investigate Collect services and get them to stop hassling you.

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