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Hi,

 

here it is in a nutshell

 

* offered a F&F - it was refused several times

* sent cca - a recon came back - no signature - debt incurred 2004

* sent a sar - waiting for them to provide documents

* meanwhile the case has been referred to a solicitor who has asked for payment in full, but also says Lloyds may accept reduced payment and monthly installments

 

 

what is the best course of action now?

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What type of account is this ?

 

Credit card/loan/overdraft ?

 

When was the last payment made to the account

 

Who is the Solicitor.. SCM ?

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Have you received a Default Notice ?

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so its gone to a fake/tame solicitor - who?

 

and a discount too....urm.. i'd not rush to do anything.

 

loan or CC?

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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SCM solicitors - credit card - last payment made July 2012

 

 

Letter received December 15th from SCM solicitors

–saying despite several letters and a default notice they have not receivedpayment.

They say Lloyds may accept reduced payment along with realisticproposals for monthly repayment.

Just checking to see if a default notice was ever registered.

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The recording of a Default marker on your credit files does not mean that you were actually sent a physical statutory Default Notice.

 

A default notice is issued under the CCA1974 Act s87(1).

 

It advises there is a breach of the contract and what you need to do to remedy it. It then needs to give you a remedy date, by which time, if the breach is not rectified then they can do certain things.. eg.. record a default on your credit files, issue claim forms, etc, etc. Depending when the DN was issued then pre 2006 you had 7 days to remedy and after December 2006 you had 14. This time is mandatory as is the wording of the Default Notice.

 

LTSB sadly screwed up big time.. in some instances they didnt even issue the DN.. then along come **** advising as you ahve been that a DN has been issued.

 

LTSB were also slated by a Judge for messing up with the DNs.

 

It might be worth your investing £10.00 and sending a Subject Access Request to LTSB - you will specifically require sight of the communication log, which details all the actions taken on the account.

 

Do **** say anywhere on their letter that this is a Final Demand ?

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SCM are their internal toothless fake solicitor

 

haslots of those letters

 

they never go antwhere

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The letter states it is formal demand prior to the commencement of legal proceedings - and I have already sent a sar - and awaiting confirmation that we can collect from the nearest branch - as far as I am concerned the account is still in dispute - so do I write to them and tell them about the sar? or make an offer?

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So it is in dispute because of non compliance with an s78 request, yes ?

 

When did you cease payments or havent you ?

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scm are lloyds

 

they will know about the SAR.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So - if they know about the SAR what do you think would be the next step?

 

Do I contact SCM and tell them I am STILL awaiting info?

 

Their figures are wrong anyway which is why I sent the SAR to dispute it.

 

CitizenB - they sent a recon with no signature on it - just name and address and general terms and conditions - no date and no signature.

 

Payments ceased June 2012

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you sre missing the point......

 

SCM are LLOYDS not 2 diff companies. just a bloke in a diff skirt at a diff desk.

 

forget them.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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It really is up to you.. If it were me, I would drop them a line along the following. .

 

Your letter dated XYZ implies that LTSB have issued a Default Notice - they have misled you - they have not.

 

I would also bring to your attention the fact that this account has been in dispute for some time now, indeed, ever since LTSB failed to fully comply with a s78 request.

 

I trust this clarifies my position.

 

Yours etc..

 

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4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

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1: How can BCOBS protect you from your Banks unfair treatment

2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

3: Banking Conduct of Business Regulations - The Hidden Rules

4: BCOBS and Unfair Treatment - Common Examples of Banks Behaving Badly

5: Fair Treatment for Credit Card Holders and Borrowers - COBS

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no a VERY VERY long way off

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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3 threads merged

 

please keep to one thread per debt

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry!!! I am trying!!

 

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Hello!

I have just had the results from the sar i did to Lloyds - they provided proper copies of the cca and all statements which I have now gone through. The result is that we do owe them £893.18 - which is what remains of the £3,660 debt incurred with them in 2004.

 

Can anyone advise me as to how I go about asking for a F&F with them as they have rejected all my previous attempts.

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and PENALTY charges showing?

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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