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I would have had to stand in the middle of the road to read this, in fact that's where I was standing when I took the photo. I have pasted the appeal and rejection below. Many thanks for looking. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is my appeal statement: As you can see from the image attached (image 1) I actually paid £18.50 to park my car in Gee st. I parked the car at what I thought was outside 55 Gee st as seen in image 2 attached. When I read the PCN issued it stated there was a parking suspension. There was no suspension notice on the sign that I used to call the payment service outside number 55 Gee st. I looked for a suspension notice and eventually found one which was obscured by a large van and generator parked outside 47 Gee st. As seen in images 3 and 4 attached. I am guessing the parking suspension was to allow the Van to park and sell Pizza during the Clerkenwell design week. I was not obstructing the use or parking of the van, in fact the van was obstructing the suspension notice which meant I could not read or see it without prior knowledge it was there. I would have had to stand in the road to see it endangering myself as I had to to take images to illustrate the hidden notice. As there was no intention to avoid a parking charge and the fact the sign was not easily visible I would hope this challenge can be accepted. Many thanks.   This is the text from the rejection: Thank you for contacting us about the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). The PCN was issued because the vehicle was parked in a suspended bay or space. I note from your correspondence that there was no suspension notice on the sign that you used to call the payment serve outside number 55 Gee Street. I acknowledge your comments, however, your vehicle was parked in a bay which had been suspended. The regulations require the suspension warning to be clearly visible. It is a large bright yellow sign and is erected by the parking bay on the nearest parking plate to the area that is to be suspended. Parking is then not permitted in the bay for any reason or period of time, however brief. The signs relating to this suspension were sited in accordance with the regulations. Upon reviewing the Civil Enforcement Officer's (CEO's) images and notes, I am satisfied that sufficient signage was in place and that it meets statutory requirements. Whilst I note that the signage may have been obstructed by a large van and generator at the time, please note, it is the responsibility of the motorist to locate and check the time plate each time they park. This will ensure that any changes to the status of the bay are noted. I acknowledge that your vehicle possessed a RingGo session at the time, however, this does not authorize parking within a suspended bay. Suspension restrictions are established to facilitate specific activities like filming or construction, therefore, we anticipate the vehicle owner to relocate the vehicle from the suspended area until the specified date and time when the suspension concludes. Leaving a vehicle unattended for any period of time within a suspended bay, effectively renders the vehicle parked in contravention and a Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) may issue a PCN. Finally, the vehicle was left parked approximately 5 metres away from the closest time plate notice. It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure they park in a suitable parking place and check all signs and road markings prior to leaving their vehicle parked in contravention. It remains the driver's responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is parked legally at all times. With that being said, I would have to inform you, your appeal has been rejected at this stage. Please see the below images as taken by the CEO whilst issuing the PCN: You should now choose one of the following options: Pay the penalty charge. We will accept the discounted amount of £65.00 in settlement of this matter, provided it is received by 10 June 2024. After that date, the full penalty charge of £130.00 will be payable. Or Wait for a Notice to Owner (NtO) to be issued to the registered keeper of the vehicle, who is legally responsible for paying the penalty charge. Any further correspondence received prior to the NtO being issued may not be responded to. The NtO gives the recipient the right to make formal representations against the penalty charge. If we reject those representations, there will be the right of appeal to the Environment and Traffic Adjudicator.   Gee st pdf.pdf
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    • Incorrect as the debt will have been legally assigned to the DCA and they are therefore now the legal creditor. Read up on debt assignment.   Andy
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Steven,

Do you suggest I send my letter to my branch or to Abbeys customer services dept?

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NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

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19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

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10-MAY-07 LBA

 

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Sure do:)

:DSUCCESSESS:D

NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

See how

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

:)CURRENT CLAIMS:)

HALIFAX03

19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

02-OCT-07 APPLICATION REFUSED

LLOYDS TSB04

10-MAY-07 LBA

 

ABBEY05

19-SEPT-07 LBA

 

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The First Right of Appropriation bit I think needs to go toyour branch butthe some of the other stuff needs to go to customer services - I would send the letter to both.

 

 

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Having contacted Nationwide Head Office regarding charges taken from benefits, using the letter template given earlier in this thread, and also written to branck with RoA letters, I've now been informed that SSAA does not apply...

 

In the members rules it states: "[5iii] The Society may withhold all or part of any share investment (ie any funds paid in) and use it to pay or reduce any debt owed to the Society which is due or overdue for payment."

 

Based on what I've read here, I'm not convinced at all.... anyone more knowledgeable care to advise further?

 

Is particularly frustrating that the current cycle of charges that I'm stuck in was started when a DD was called without notice, thus technically in breach of DD guarantee etc. Nationwide accepted this and agreed to refund the charges levied. Instead, one was applied still the following month causing another DD to bounce and attract a charge,..... you get the picture ;-)

 

Quoting SSAA and sending RoA letters has caused quite a stir, though, and they've been running about trying to find someone who understands it - just seems they still haven't!

 

Steve

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puzz they are talking rubbish - as usual

 

Apart from their charges being unlawful they cannot negate your rights under statute just by claiming it's in their T&C's & to do so is an offence which should be reported to TS & the OFT

 

Write again telling them they are wrong & that unless they repay you + any interest they have added you will report them to the appropriate authorities forthwith

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There have been several reported cases of Banks taking charges from accounts that have benefits paid into them by DWP and Social security.thus leaving them with little or no money.

Here is a template letter to take or send to the bank to address this.

It is important to let the bank have this BEFORE you expect to have funds paid in by DWP or the Inland revenue.

A new letter should be sent for each payment that you expect to be protected,customise as required by adding the benefit/type of payment.

 

 

 

 

RIGHT OF APPROPRIATION

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxxx

 

I am writing to inform you that I am due to have a Tax Credit payment of £xxx paid into my account on xx/xx/xx, and I wish to use my first right of appropriation for this money, for the following purposes;

Rent £xx

Utilities bills £xx

Housekeeping money £xx

I will withdraw the money on the day that it is deposited for the above use, and I would be grateful if you would ensure that any other payments out of my account do not interfere with this withdrawal.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

[signature]

 

[print name)

 

Additionally here is further info thanks to JonCris

You may also wish to insert the following in your letter to the bank.

 

Social Security Administration Act 1992

Miscellaneous

Certain benefit to be inalienable **

 

187- Subject to the provisions of this Act, every assignment of, or charge on-

(a)benefit as defined in section 122 of the Contributions and Benefits Act;

(b)any income-related benefit; or

©child benefit,

and every agreement to assign or charge such benefit shall be void; and, on the bancrupcy of the beneficiary, such benefit shall not pass to any trustee or other person acting on behalf of his creditors

Hi

I sent this letter to my bank, and they totally ignored my request???

Any suggestions?

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I spoke with some girls and lads in a banking customer services departmnt. They are all unaware pf this law but do tell me that it's computers, for the most part, which manage our accounts and send out letters.

 

I'm told by these people that certain banks are threatening their staff with the sack if they try to reclaim charges: surely this is Blackmail: yet ANOTHER criminal offense with which they, the banks, are getting off Scot free.

 

I plan to try to enlist the help of Tommy Sheridan who, regardless of what some may think of him, has proven himself to be prepared, while more than able, to stand up and be counted in fighting for the rights of Society's less privileged.

 

Still scrubbing filthy greasy smoke off walls but might get chance to write to him tonight.

 

I'm sure he'll be bale to get "The Word" from the Govan Centre.

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Now this is going to sound stupid but do student bursaries (SAAS awards) and student loans count in this?

 

Last year during term I had many bank charges for silly things but they were always taken out of my DLA/student loan/bursary account. It would be difficult to prove that the money came out of my DLA directly but I would like to see if this makes my case any easier as I'm starting action against the bank soon.

Any posts submitted here on the Consumer Action Group under the user name GlasweJen may not necessarily be the view of the poster, CAG or indeed any normal person.

 

I've become addicted to green blobs (I have 2 now) so feel free to tip my scales if I ever make sense.;-)

 

 

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This may be a stupid question but...has anyone ever taken the bank to court for damages as well as their bank charges?

 

I am soooooo mad at Yorkshire Bank for taking my unemployment benefit and leaving me with nothing!! Unable to pay the part payment of my rent which was the cause of me getting 2 mths notice to quit my home!!

 

I now have a p/t job so am no longer receiving benefits and am just at the stage where I am about to put in my claim form to the courts but I aim to go for damages too. I want to make sure that they can no longer take other peoples benefits with the excuse that they didn't know it was illegal etc because once they've been to court then they won't have that excuse anymore!!

 

I'm trying to find some sort of template because I'm not sure if it's the same process if you are going for damages too. Anyone here know?

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Jenschnifer, I'd think you're as well throwing in everything you can.

 

If the total comes to more than £1,500 you'll n eed to get a solicitor to handle it as an Ordinary Case but the b anks, if found judged against, will have the costs to bear.

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Don't know for sure, ScorpioICE, but in every other case, "ignorance of the Law is considered to be no excuse".

 

Go for it but maybe seek legal advice first. I am sue that thre are still some solicitors who give 1 free advice apt.

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thanks vital spark, the claim is for just over £250 which is a drop in the ocean compared to some claims on here but i'm a student and I need all the cash I can get hands on, one of the charges was when someone commited fraud on my account, they refunded the money taken but not their wopping big bank charge.

Any posts submitted here on the Consumer Action Group under the user name GlasweJen may not necessarily be the view of the poster, CAG or indeed any normal person.

 

I've become addicted to green blobs (I have 2 now) so feel free to tip my scales if I ever make sense.;-)

 

 

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ScorpioICE, did you actually lose your home through this or did you manage to save it in time?

 

No I had to move out! I'd only moved in in January and I'd asked them if they were planning on long term rental because I didn't want to keep moving, said I wanted to rent for at least 3 yrs. They said that was ideal as they usually buy to do up and sell but now they planned to buy and rent their properties. I was given 2 mths notice in October, saying that they needed to sell it to use the equity in the house. I know I couldn't use this in court but I'm so angry because I know this was due to falling further and further behind with my rent due to the banks taking all my money, plus the fact that for months I had little or no gas and electric...food etc. It was a horrible time in my life where all control seemed to have been taken away from me. I'm not one for pushing things under the carpet when they get bad, I always sort things out but I swear I was going out of my mind at that time.

 

Reading all the postings on here makes me feel disgusted that I wasn't even a rare case...infact it seems to be the norm!!!!

 

I'm guessing that to sue them for damages is going to cost me more than just getting my charges back but I'm willing to take that chance as long as the initial cost isn't too much. I'm just trying to read up first to see what to do as I don't want to make a mistake!

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