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Hi there,

Hoping for some advice on Robinsons Way.

 

I have received a letter from them asking me to pay an ex-British Gas bill from back in 2007.

 

I spoke to a woman on the phone and she started yelling and talking over me

when I asked her to send through date/time confirmation by post

to prove I owe the debt because I felt they could be some random company phoning

up people asking for credit card details for 'apparent debt'.

 

Today I received a phonecall on my work phone number.

 

I immediately put the phone down but later phoned back and

spoke to a chap who couldn't understand why I was asking for proof that I owe the debt?

 

He said they have purchased the debt on good will from British Gas?!

 

Surely they should be able to prove that I owe the money by sending me an outstanding

B-Gas bill before requesting I pay the amount.

 

It is only for £39 but I'm going on principle here.

 

I have been reading the threads and understand a 6 year gap is required

but surely they can't ask me to pay without proper proof?

 

Your advice would be much appreciated.

 

Kind regards

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Poor robbinscum, they must be getting desperate if they are chasing an alledged debt for £39 pounds - anyway, stop talking to these fools and phone up BG your self to get them to verify if there is an alledged debt, if they know nothing then tell robbinscum to take a hike

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£39, so they bought for £4. They really are in dire straights :D

 

Did you get any names, ref numbers? Without telling them you will only communicate in writing they will continue to ring. If you have the info write to them saying you have no idea what they on about and contact you by written communication only, you will find out more from them then (if they reply)

 

Some may say ignore, but by trying to nip it in the bud they will move onto someone else to harass.

 

Dealt with them a few years ago, pain in the backside. Dont forget they get a minimum basic wage and rely on scaring people to increase their wage, imagine a little monkey with 2 GCSE's (Media Studies & Sociology) in a cheap suit ringing you trying to get your cash its gonna get angry if it cant buy its bananas :D

Advice & opinions given by spartathisis are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.:)

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Thanks for your advice.

 

I emailed BGas and they have come back to say they have no record of the debt.

 

Consequently I will write to the numpties at Robinsons Way

and let them know that BGas has no record of the debt and that I will not be paying a cent

to a company that is essentially operating this way.

 

They have claimed they have bought the debt on 'good will' and

 

expect me to pay on 'good will'. I honestly think this is some kind of joke!

 

Yes Sir, happy to had over my hard earned money on a whim just because you're asking for it?!

 

Honestly!

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If you got written proof from British Gas that they are unaware of any debt, then copy and forward all paperwork to both the OFT and Trading Standards via Consumer Direct.

 

Stigman

NEVER telephone a DCA

If a DCA rings you, refuse to go through the security questions & hang up!

 

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Post Duplicated which is why I have edited & deleted it, Blame Dell & Bill Gates :)

NEVER telephone a DCA

If a DCA rings you, refuse to go through the security questions & hang up!

 

If I have helped you, click on the star & say thank you

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Despite sending them a letter informing them British Gas aren't aware of the debt

(including the email from BGas)

 

they have now passed me on to a solicitor (Horwich Farrelly)

who works from the same address as them.

 

I am now getting demand letters and they are threatening court action.

 

The letters seem to have slowed down from one a week to one a month though.

 

I will resend to Mr. Farrelly what I sent to Robinsons Way and ask they don't contact me again

 

- is this the best course of action?

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Despite sending them a letter informing them British Gas aren't aware of the debt (including the email from BGas) they have now passed me on to a solicitor (Horwich Farrelly) who works from the same address as them. I am now getting demand letters and they are threatening court action. The letters seem to have slowed down from one a week to one a month though.

 

I will resend to Mr. Farrelly what I sent to Robinsons Way and ask they don't contact me again - is this the best course of action?

 

Did you also submit complaints to both the OFT & Trading Standards? If not do so.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/UsefulContactsByCategory/Governmentcitizensandrightscontacts/DG_195948

 

Has the Solicitor Farrelly got a SRA number on the paperwork? If so just for good measure report him as well

http://www.legalombudsman.org.uk/consumer/index.html

 

You do not have to send Robbers Way or their in-house Solicitor anything, just forward all your paperwork (Copies only) to the relevant bodies above.

 

Stigman

NEVER telephone a DCA

If a DCA rings you, refuse to go through the security questions & hang up!

 

If I have helped you, click on the star & say thank you

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I too have been plagued by Robinsons Way for years

now with them passing me from one debt agency to the next

and now ending up back with them.

 

I sent them a 'prove it' letter and they sent two letters back

stating they are waiting for a response from British Gas.

 

A letter arrived yesterday stating that they couldn't prove it

 

but asking me to send them a cheque to pay the debt.

 

The audacity!

 

The fact that they can't prove the debt is mine yet still expect me to pay it.

 

Surely what they are doing isn't legal. It's harassment!

 

I cannot understand how they are allowed to get away with this behaviour.

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I reviewed the Statute barred letter and it doesn't seem to fit my circumstances.

 

The debt isn't mine in the first place and the template seems to outline

that I haven't been in touch with them in 6 years

 

which I have but it's been mainly asking them to prove the debt.

 

Does that template still apply?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

H.

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dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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stop playing letter tennis with these fleecers

 

there is no debt

 

there never WAS any debt

 

British gas Don't sell gas debts on

 

under the back billing rules they effectively cant.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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