Employment/Work and asscioated benefits woes

[Hacked_Off]

I've been in touch with the conference centre no reply as yet. Same for apex.

 

Job centre weren't interested he said what I knew he'd say " seems genuine".

 

Meh

[Hacked_Off]

I got this txt from them:

 

You applied for a cleaning job with our company but the recruitment team was unable to view your cv. Pls resend your cv again to the recruitment dept email address: [email protected]

 

I've been ringing the number but no one ever picks up

[Hacked_Off]

The other thing is, have you actually had an interview yet?

 

I've always had an interview, been through the whole process and then I've either already had a current enhanced crb check, or after they've offered me the position, they've said and now can you sign this crb form so we can send it off and have you cleared.

 

Occasionally, some organisations still do their own crb application, even if you have a current one,but it doesn't matter, because they pay for it.

 

Only on one occasion have I had to pay for an enhanced crb check, but that wasn't for a job, that was required by my uni, because of the type of degree I did.

 

It just doesn't sound right.

 

Havnt interviewed no just sent a cv . That's not unusual for cleaning jobs though I've only ever interviewed once.

[Hacked_Off]

The Gateway at 71 London Road is a legitimate address/business in Liverpool. They hire out rooms for conferences, training etc. I would suggest that they have hired a room for this business and are oblivious to what may or may not be going on

 

I walk past it on my way to work so I might go in and see if they know what's going on.

[Hacked_Off]

Hacked Off,

 

You should send them an email with your uniform size and tell them you have a valid CRB and you've been told as it's only 2 weeks old it'll be valid, and see what they reply.

 

Up2

 

Dear applicant,

 

Thank you for emailing your uniform sizes. Unfortunately,we won't employ you until you email your ukash voucher numbers for a new crb fees,no other crb report will be accepted due to security reasons.We hope to welcome you to our company.

 

 

Recruitment Dept,

Apex Cleaning Ltd.

[renegadeimp]

Its become pretty obvious its a [problem]. Report it to trading standards and the other authorities and then ignore them.

[up2meears]

I can not believe that the Job Centre are not even willing to investigate this. After the recent press they've been getting you'd think they'd be hot on stuff like this, if even just to cover their own backs.

 

Imagine if you'd paid the £50 and then went to them because no job materialised? Would they do anything then I wonder? probably blame you for being gullible and not noticing it was a con.

 

At least you worked this out, I just feel sorry for the poor sods that wasn't so lucky

 

Up2

[Calamity1]

Hi,

 

Yes, you're quite right, it is quite usual to not have interviews for cleaning jobs, but usually not when you need security clearance, or a crb check.

 

I know this because of cleaners employed for someone I can't mention. At this place, they even security clear family members.

 

But I know in other departments, the ones who just need a crb check, get interviewed also.

 

Sorry I can't be more specific.

[Hacked_Off]

I keep seeing this one pop up every now and then on the job centre I think this ones a con to

 

Mon, Wed, and Fri 8.30am-10.30am . Total Hours are 6 hours week. Contact us by sending a free text to 80800 and start your message with the code A3 followed by your NAME and POSTCODE you will have an immediate response. Example: To: 80800 Message: A3 Your Name HG1 1LX THIS TEXT IS FREE OF CHARGE or call on 01280 841691 .

[honeybee13]

Hello there.

 

I googled the phone number and it comes up as Clockwork Contract Management.

 

Clockwork Contract ManagementBrackley, Northamptonshire

01280 841691

Clockwork Contracts is a national commercial cleaning company specialising in providing a structured, reliable, competitive and fully professional service for all your internal and external cleaning requirements. Call u…

 

 

 

My best, HB

[Hacked_Off]

I've recently been off for two weeks having surgery. I told the guy I usually deal with I'd be off from the 30th and back the 13th. I emailed the agency last Tuesday saying I'm

Back on Thursday yes? They said no they had cover for the rest of the week. Now there saying I don't get paid at all for last week and they guy I normally deal with has left and didn't tell anybody. So am I correct in thinking as per the agency worker regulations section 5 because I've been at the same job for 13 weeks and then some and told them

I was available but no work was given I'm entitled to my normal wage for those two days?

[Emmzzi]

No. The basic rights you have relate to pay, leave, rest periods etc - not to guaranteed availaibility of work.

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Understandingyourworkstatus/Agencyworkersandemploymentagencies/DG_198917

[Hacked_Off]

No. The basic rights you have relate to pay, leave, rest periods etc - not to guaranteed availaibility of work.

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Understandingyourworkstatus/Agencyworkersandemploymentagencies/DG_198917

 

Incorrect

during any period under the contract in which the agency worker is not working temporarily for and under the supervision and direction of a hirer but is available to do so—

(i)the temporary work agency takes reasonable steps to seek suitable work for the agency worker,

(ii)if suitable work is available, the temporary work agency offers the agency worker to be proposed to a hirer who is offering such work, and

(iii)the temporary work agency pays the agency worker a minimum amount of remuneration in respect of that period (“the minimum amount”); and

(d)the temporary work agency does not terminate the contract of employment until it has complied with its obligations in sub-paragraph © for an aggregate of not less than four calendar weeks during the contract.

[becky2585]

Incorrect

during any period under the contract in which the agency worker is not working temporarily for and under the supervision and direction of a hirer but is available to do so—

(i)the temporary work agency takes reasonable steps to seek suitable work for the agency worker,

(ii)if suitable work is available, the temporary work agency offers the agency worker to be proposed to a hirer who is offering such work, and

(iii)the temporary work agency pays the agency worker a minimum amount of remuneration in respect of that period (“the minimum amount”); and

(d)the temporary work agency does not terminate the contract of employment until it has complied with its obligations in sub-paragraph © for an aggregate of not less than four calendar weeks during the contract.

 

Then why ask if you already know the answer?

 

Given all your ranting agency related threads, have you considered maybe agency work isn't for you?

[Hacked_Off]

Then why ask if you already know the answer?

 

Given all your ranting agency related threads, have you considered maybe agency work isn't for you?

 

Calm down I was only checking I hadn't got it wrong

 

As for the agencies yes I need to do something about that. Hence why I am starting a law course as of tomorrow. The problem is I'm in the magistrates court ATM via the agency which will come in handy for placements/experience otherwise I would of walked away.

[Emmzzi]

Maybe you covered this on other threads - are you opted in or out of the Swedish derrogation then?

[Hacked_Off]

The only thing I signed was a registration form and "terms of engagement for agency workers"

 

I can't find anything in there about pay inbetween assignments only

 

" the agency worker is not entitled to recieve payment from the employment business or the client for time not spent on assignment, whether in respect of holidays , illness or absence for any other reason unless otherwise agreed."

[Emmzzi]

Do you get equal pay (per hour) as the permanent employees of the organisation?

 

Is there anything about a "regulation 10" opt in or out?

[Emmzzi]

Actually - just read this. It has a fair summary of the times when pay between assignments would apply. Others are available.

 

http://www.apsco.org/Candidates/AWR_Candidate_Information.aspx

[Hacked_Off]

I get the same pay as the actual employees yes. We're all paid bare minimum wage. Lucky us!!

 

I've read the whole thing and not once does it say opt in or out.

 

There's a random bit about ssp though , if you meet the criteria and claim ssp you will on qualify for one day per week "and that day shall be Wednesday"

[Emmzzi]

If you have equal pay it is unlikely that you are on a derogation - which is when pay between assignments would apply, and what the clauses you quoted above refer to.

 

Have a read of the link I posted, seek clarification from ACAS tomorrow of required.

[Hacked_Off]

Mmmm I don't think we're paid the same by choice. We're all on min wage. Infact the agency make more per hour than I do for doing the work!

 

I'll speak to one of the solicitors in work tomorrow.

[Emmzzi]

Other test is are you on a permanent contract employed by the agency directly with a pay between assignments clause in it.

 

btw the next time you reply with an "incorrect" without quoting your source - which I think is http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/93/regulation/10/made but you missed out the key bit which was

 

"Permanent contracts providing for pay between assignments"

 

- you're on your own. I'm here trying to help and going through law examples for you. No need to be abrupt if you disagree, I am fine with reasoned debate but not shout-downs.

[Hacked_Off]

Other test is are you on a permanent contract employed by the agency directly with a pay between assignments clause in it.

 

btw the next time you reply with an "incorrect" without quoting your source - which I think is http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/93/regulation/10/made but you missed out the key bit which was

 

"Permanent contracts providing for pay between assignments"

 

- you're on your own. I'm here trying to help and going through law examples for you. No need to be abrupt if you disagree, I am fine with reasoned debate but not shout-downs.

 

It wasn't a shout down I was merely stating I thought you were incorrect.

 

I do believe a certain someone on here is plain rude on every single thread I post here. Have I ever said anything about that? Nope.

 

Rise above dear rise above

 

Goodbye

[Hacked_Off]

As the title says I do 15 hours a week in college and 10 working. Should I still be claiming jsa?