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    • Here is my final draft: I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in the claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act.   1.        The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' 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This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party.   3.        The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’.  The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents.   4.        Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018.   5.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020.   6.        Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicotors is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’   7.        I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’.   8.        The claimant relies upon and exhibits a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement.   It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HH Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’.   The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause.   9.        Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not try to mislead the court.   10.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024
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    • Hi folks, I've just found previous documentation. I thought it had gone missing. I'd forgotten that I did appeal it through POPLA but I can't find the thread on here that, I assume, I posted for help. Appeal letter is dated 27/10/2020 with a rejection. I genuinely had forgotten about this so apologies for misleading you. A lot has happened in the years since the ticket was issued. We closed down a couple of businesses and moved to the opposite end of the country to retire. The documents I have are scanned copies. I no longer have the originals. If there's anything you'd like to see, please let me know and I'll post them, although it probably won't be until tomorrow now, but I'll be looking in on this page tonight. Thank you for the responses so far :)
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A default should only remain on your credit file for six years, yes you're correct.

 

You should raise the issue with the CRA who is processing inaccurate data.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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its better to write to the bank

copy them the letter of default

 

 

give them 14 days to remove the whole account as it was defaulted more than 6yrs ago and should now not be showing.

or you'll complain to the ICO and seek compensation too.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you must also attach a copy of the original default notice

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I am sure somebody has asked this question,but I cannot find it.

 

Why are CRAs allowed to record data from a third party (ie Bank) and yet take no responsibility for that data, as to whether it is true and does not contravene ICO REGS ,FCA REGS

 

 

as an example

I have a long running battle with Equifax, to remove incorrect data,

 

 

I have approached the bank/and Equifax 3 times,

the bank say NO,

Equifax state the bank refuse to remove the data and they are only acting on instructions,

 

 

the default was issued Feb 2009,

so according to ICO should not show on any CRA file,

and Equifax are not interested at all that I can prove the default date in writing.

 

 

Because I don't pay them anything I assume

 

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Have you got all of this in writing?

 

Have you got all of the evidence needed to sue them in court for defamation?

 

The real reason why the CRAs take no interest in you as an individual, is simply because they get paid by the DCA's for marking your files.

 

As soon as you make it known, in writing, that the information on your credit file is inaccurate and they need to remove/process accurately, or you WILL seek legal remedy, then they begin to sit up and take notice.

 

IMO, I'd write to them once more, advise them to remove the inaccurate data within seven working days, OR you WILL start legal proceedings against them, the data controller, for defamation.

 

You also need to make a complaint to the ICO regarding them.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Bazooka,thanks for your reply ,

 

 

I have all the relevant documentation ,

although I didn't put this in the post above,

 

 

also in writing from the bank in response to my SAR May 2009

I have the letter that states they are unable to find any documentation regarding this loan account,

so the account is also Statute Barred as well,

 

 

I have advised Equifax and the Bank of these facts,

and each time I write to them I make it very clear that my letter does not acknowledge the existence of the account, so naturally I haven't paid a single penny for nearly 8 years.

 

Have made an online complaint to ICO, and as you suggest I will send one final letter stating removal within 7 days or I will seek a Legal Remedy

 

Again thanks for your help

 

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you write to the original creditor

you enclose proof of the defaulted date

you give them 14 days to remove the wrongful data on aLL CRF providers files

or you will raise a complaint with the ICO

and seek financial Compensation.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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4 threads merged,

same advise given weeks ago.

 

 

so have you done so?

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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As I have already stated the ICO have been involved and there is a FINAL letter going of to the bank concerned,HOWEVER my question concerns the lack of responsibility taken by the CRAs,they are getting away without being RESPONSIBLE for any of the data they publish and that is not right in my opinion

 

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Not really as its the banks that inform them

You route is as post 13

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you are or were paying the debt off so you have acknowledged the debt and that means the debt doesnt become SB until 6 years after your last payment or acknowledgement of the debt was made.

 

Regarding your last point,

if the information is incorrect you may sue the people who place that information on your credit file for the resultant damages and the CRA will correct the file to show a true record with regard to the information given to them by the originator.

 

If they refuse to correct it them you can chase them for contempt of court ut ultimately it is still the bank or whoever is providing that information who is responsible.

 

As your files are not srictly in the public domain the laws of libel and their burden of proof that is the reverse of most law doesnt apply and you have to prove that damage has been done to your reputation.

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the fact that a debt might be sb'd has little or no relationship to if/if not the account shows on your credit file.

 

 

that is dictated by a default notice issuance.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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agree, however the account is well over 6 years old and should not be on any credit file,hence the ICO complaint,and final letter to bank

 

What is the date next to the default on your credit file?

 

The default will not drop off your credit file UNTIL the sixth year anniversary of it being placed on there.

 

Makes no difference the age of the account.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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I know bb but fs appears not be be understanding things......?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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So the default reached its 6th birthday then?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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great i'll mark the thread resolved.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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who was the bank please

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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