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    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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NatWest Bank refusing to allow Bank Transfer for painting in Rome to dealer of +60yrs reputation


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I recently visited Rome and wanted to purchase some paintings from a dealer who was the third generation in his family to continue the fine art business where he worked.

The business is a legitimate business

but as it is in Italy the dealer could not accept a cash deposit and did not accept credit cards and suggested I do a bank transfer when I got home to secure the paintings until the export license came through.

Natwest has been utterly obstructive and has point blankly refused to let me pay .

The money is not theirs to dictate how I spend it ,

this is absolutely disgusting.

I wondered if anyone else had problems with this useless bank .

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  • dx100uk changed the title to NatWest Bank refusing to allow Bank Transfer for painting in Rome to dealer of +60yrs reputation

They just did not like that we were putting a deposit down to secure some fine art, it was only 5000.00 Euros, but  they said that because the purchase did not fit the bank"s profile they had every right to stop our transaction.

I said that I knew the gentleman and that all was legitimate but they said "no" and not to ask again .

Have been a high spending customer with this bank for 30 years so they know my history .

I believe it is just youngsters who now control the banks dealings , there is no loyalty given to long standing customers- it is simply - computer says no - with no recourse as no local banks anymore and no one to complain to .

It is a very bad state of affairs and one of the reasons I am planning to remove my wealth and business to another country. 

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Seems to me they are “damned if they do, damned if they don’t!"

Thus will have 'tripped' the alerts within The Banking Protocol

If they didn’t put a hold on the transaction and it was a fraud, the bank would be liable for the loss.

Best way forward? Explain you understand they are required to be cautious, and ask how you can reassure them it is a legitimate transaction and what they would need to continue it.

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I did reassure them that this was a bonafide business, their response was , when I tried 3 times to process the transfer- ‘ Mr G - we have told you on 3 occasions that we do not want to go ahead with this and it is in our rights to do so , so goodbye! 
Banks are just staffed with people who do not know what they are doing most of the time , they are scared of having to pay out for fraud despite making billions of profit providing no service and employing no worthwhile staff. I have and regret not going to another agency to deal with my business ,  TorFX- which happened to be cheaper, better exchange rate and superb customer service . Natwest - you are a disgrace 

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“I tried the same, 3 times” isn't the same as "I understand you are acting as per the Banking Protocol. Who do I need to speak to, and what information do they require, to reassure the bank regarding this transaction?"

One of the Banking Protocol "red flags" is the customer declining to engage with the process.  

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