192.com people finder

[cashins]

They say they have an audit trail in place so they can see when your data was purchased, how it was purchased and who etc.

 

 

I wonder how effective in fact that is.

 

As they go out of their way to highlight maiden names, (which are very usefull if you are a fraudster), I wouldn't trust a single word they say.

 

David

[247orbital]

Had a response today pointing out a few interesting things.

 

192.com only hold birth, marriages, death records from 1984 onwards. If a search is done relating to a pre-1984 enquiry an electronic request is sent to a company called findmypast.com.

 

So findmypast.com will be receiving a S10 notice.

 

I've been assured that in the future any information will be removed unless I change address in which case I need to write to them again.

 

They have also told me to write to them with my date of birth, registration district etc post 1984.

 

Letter was sent special delivery.

[cerberusalert]

I'm afraid you may get 192 to remove the info, but the problem is there's dozens of companies out there doing the same thing & not all are based in the UK.

 

In my eyes one of the biggest offenders are the Mormon Church; this is their search engine for genealogy records, but they have a huge repository in Salt Lake City which holds all sorts of info & their intention is to catalogue everyone. Mormon Church (LDS) Genealogy / Geneology Records

[steven4064]

I got an answer to my letter before action pretty quickly - see attached

[rockwell304]

Steven, well done on this. I will certainly follow your lead. I have tried to get them to remove data held on me via a director's report but they have refused.

I will be on their case immediately!

[247orbital]

My letters identical.

[lickthewallfatboy]

well that was quick!

 

My MP has written back already to tell me that he is writing to the NI security minister Paul Goggins to get him to investigate 192.com

 

Wheels starting to turn

[kurvaface]

Good. That's 2 MPs that we know of that will have definitely made an enquiry about this company now.

[cashins]

My MP has written back already to tell me that he is writing to the NI security minister Paul Goggins to get him to investigate 192.com

 

 

Hmmmmm....worried Chilcot might find out where he really lives.

 

Only Joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

David

[fuzzybobble]

Been checking on there myself. So much of their data is years out of date. I researched all my family on there just to see how much stuff they had. With my Uncle's details only one of my cousins came up as living there, so that info is likely to be 24 years out of date.

 

With my details it came up with an address I lived at up until late 2001. And also a person who I've never met was living there at the same time according to 192.com.

 

Still going to send the letters and complaints etc. Just to cause them some extra hassle and work.

[fuzzybobble]

well that was quick!

 

My MP has written back already to tell me that he is writing to the NI security minister Paul Goggins to get him to investigate 192.com

 

Wheels starting to turn

 

Paul Goggins? Does his wife run the post office in Greendale?

[lickthewallfatboy]

Paul Goggins? Does his wife run the post office in Greendale?

 

he'll probably turn out to be just as useful

[fuzzybobble]

But no harm in trying. If you don't try, you don't get.

[fairclaire]

the whole fact that anyone can buy data such as this is a crass dereliction of responsibility on the govt's part

 

Data regarding people in certain sensitive fields of employment should not be able to be bought

 

A Data protection breach like this by an IRA spyring almost brought the NI executive crashing down

 

I totally agree!

 

I work for a govt dept that handles data on the very type of people you mention. These people are regarded as 'protected population' for obvious reasons. The security measures and rules for handling their data is very stringent.

 

I would think that anyone in this situation who is complaining to their MP may want to point out that they are regarded as a member of protected population by the government. It might just make them take a bit more notice.....worth a try anyway.

[marie6666red]

just looked at this site and what is making my blood boil is the fact that there is a facility to find my birth, marriage etc.records and even my mothers maiden name. they are inviting [problematic] i cant believe it.

[owen everybody]

keep telling your friends and family to check their data on 192.com and get them to send off the s10 form and get their stuff removed.

[red_squirrel]

I sent off the forms, one for each address and my entries were fully removed within 2 weeks. I am nagging my partner to do the same.

[count orlok]

i did a search for my name and it came up that i shared a residence with my wife and my son. My son left home ages ago, and the register of electors was informed but my details are on the edited register. i did a check on my adress and it gave the first name of all the people that lived in my street except for my house. i think they still have me living at my last address which no longer exists! If I ask them to remove my details what info do i need to give them? Might it be better to leave them with the wrong details that are nearly 3 years out f date?

[cerberusalert]

The info they carry goes back 5/6 years to date, so that's why they are still showing the old data for you.

[count orlok]

when i did an address search as opposed to name it had the correct names for my neighbours, but nothing for my addy. the place we live at was only finished in 2007. How did they find out my neighbours names but not mine?

[cerberusalert]

How did they find out my neighbours names but not mine?

Electoral Roll

Land Registry

Telephone Book

Data bought from other sources, i.e Mobile Companies, catalogues etc.

 

+ a whole myriad of other nefarious means.

[count orlok]

isn't being ex-dirctory and on the edited electoral reg supposed to keep your detals private?

[kurvaface]

They also use data from the pre-edited roll days, companies house for directors and they buy in data from other sources.

[247orbital]

findmypast.com

 

for all information pre-1994

[cerberusalert]

findmypast.com

 

for all information pre-1994

 

In the unlikely event that I ever research my family tree I won't be using that site. I've just entered the details of three seperate people who I know the birthdates, marriages & deaths of & they do not hold any record of them.