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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. 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( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. 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    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Hi,

 

I'm quitting using will power only.

 

I've managed 35 hours now, which have consisted of cravings every 1-2 hours lasting about 3/5 mins. When the cravings hit I go through every excuse in my mind as to why I should give in, 'It's my Birthday in March, I'll quit then' 'I'll just cut down instead' ect ect.

 

I've smoked for 8 years. Hand rolled tabacco. I've resisted so far. But could anyone please tell me when the cravings start to reduce? I should have seen a GP really and maybe got patches. If the cravings continue at this consistant strong rate then I may have to reconsider.

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Got bad news for you Happy - they don't go. I gave up smoking for a year and then started again. A friend hasn't smoked for 15 years but still admits to the odd craving. Get the patches quick otherwise you will just find excuses to start again.

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Hi,

 

I'm quitting using will power only.

 

I've managed 35 hours now, which have consisted of cravings every 1-2 hours lasting about 3/5 mins. When the cravings hit I go through every excuse in my mind as to why I should give in, 'It's my Birthday in March, I'll quit then' 'I'll just cut down instead' ect ect.

 

I've smoked for 8 years. Hand rolled tabacco. I've resisted so far. But could anyone please tell me when the cravings start to reduce? I should have seen a GP really and maybe got patches. If the cravings continue at this consistant strong rate then I may have to reconsider.

 

May i start with well done happyfeet, its tough isn't it...

but dont worry the cravings do go away, its just harder for some, just depends on how much you want to quit, stick at it, avoid things you did with a ciggie in your mouth, i stopped feb 2003 on willpower alone and never looked back, but its different for everyone, just dont have a sneaky ciggie, you will never quit having a sneaky, so learn how to ignore them demons in your head..lol and you will get through.....My mate used NHS smoking advisers they helped him quit for good, their number is 0800 169 0 169...

 

So good luck and keep us informed on your progress:)

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Thanks everyone,

 

I'm still holding out. I don't want to smoke, so far I've not missed the smoking as an action but I just keep getting these damn cravings. They have been a little less today, but not much, yesterday they were terrible! so hopefully I'll be one of the luckier ones and I'll escape.

 

It's been nearly 40 hours now and when the cravings pass I feel better already, so the early benefits are showing.

 

Hopefully I'll feel better as each day passes to keep me going. I've taken down the NHS number from your post. 2 days doesn't seem long but I don't want to ruin it now so if things don't start to ease a little bit I'll give them a ring. One thing I do want to ask them is if the inhalator is available on prescription so I may ring them now anyway (would ask the GP but don't trust a word they say about anything anyway)

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Despite my gloomy post above, most people I know who have successfully given up reckon that the eighth day is when it starts to get much easier.

Might be worth seeing your GP - there is a drug called Zyban which is a slow release capsule (apparently it is quite expensive, so you may not have much luck). It is a 6 week course.

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Try the fake drag – it really helped me. All you do is bring your fingers up to your mouth (as if you were holding a cigarette) take a long hard drag for about 3 seconds – then inhale through your mouth for about 10 seconds – then exhale through your mouth for about 10 seconds.

What you’re actually doing is deep breathing – which helps to calm you down. Once you are calm you can pat yourself on the back for not giving in to the craving.

One of the excuses we use to have a fag is to calm down – once you realize that you can calm down without inhaling all them nasty chemicals it starts to get a bit easier – one less reason to smoke.

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I found this again and found it useful. I had it printed out and posted by my 'puter, just to 'remind me', I hope it helps.

 

 

 

Within 20 minutes - Blood pressure and pulse rate start to return to normal

 

Within 8 Hours - Nicotine and carbon monoxide levels in blood reduce by half. Oxygen levels return to normal.

 

Within 24 Hours - Carbon monoxide will be eliminated from the body. Lungs start to clear out mucus and other smoking debris. You won't believe the gunge that comes up at first as your body begins to re-grow cilia, the tiny hairs that line your airways and help push up impurities from your lungs - your smoking destroyed these.

 

Within 48 Hours - There is no nicotine left in the body. Ability to taste and smell is greatly improved

 

Within 72 Hours - Breathing becomes easier. Bronchial tubes begin to relax and energy levels increase

 

Within 2-12 weeks - Circulation rapidly improves

 

Within 3-9 months - Coughs, wheezing and breathing problems improve as lung functions are increased by up to 10%. Personally, my smokers cough actually disappeared after 4-5 days!

 

Within 5 years - Risk of heart attack falls to about half that of a smoker

 

Within 10 years - Risk of lung cancer falls to about half that of a smoker. Risk of heart attack falls to the same as someone who has never smoked

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Nice one Mr Lex... But if its a money thing.......

 

Mon............................................. £5.50

Tues............................................£11.00

Wed.............................................£16.50

Thurs…. .......................................£22.00

Fri……………………………….....................£27.50

Sat………………………………....................£33.00

Sun………………………………....................£38.50

 

Mon…........It's Getting Much Easier....£44.00

Tues……………………………….................. £49.50

Wed………………………………....................£55.00

Thurs………………………………..................£60.50

Fri………………………………......................£66.00

Sat……………………………….....................£71.50

Sun….God why did I ever smoke………….£77.00

 

Mon…............................................ £82.50 Saving

Tues…............................................£88.00 Based on 20 a day

Wed……………………………….....................£93.50 1 Year

Thurs………………………………...................£99.00 Save....£2002

Fri……………………………….......................£104.50

Sat………………………………......................£110.00

Sun………………………………......................£115.50

 

Mon……………………………….....................£121.00

Tues………………………………................ ...£126.50

Wed Bet you feel better ............……....£132.00

Thurs………………………………...................£137.50

Fri……………………………….......................£143.00

Sat………………………………......................£148.50

Sun………………………………......................£154.00

 

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I recomend a pinch of snuff and nicotine chewing gum when the cravings get intense...i quit ten years ago, still have the odd pinch now and again.

 

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If you think back on the time you have stopped, you will realise that the only time you had a craving was when you were doing nothing ie; sat in from of the tv.

When you are busy, there is no craving, so the one answer is to keep busy.

Things like if you have a ciggy after dinner, don't sit around, as soon as you have finishe the meal, get up and wash the dishes.

It's little things like that that keep it from your mind.

 

You probably have realised that the craving is heaviest when you are alone and the mind can wander.

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Wow, thanks everyone:)

 

Mr lex that chart really helps, to see the good things that happen is a big boost.

 

atwozee, you're quite right, it does work. I pretend I'm smoking when I do it and it does stop the craving, thank you so much.

 

davidg007, my tobacco cost 2.60 a day, it did once cost 2.10 (and that wasn't so long ago!) so I've written out a forumla with my costs using the base that you've given me and I'm already saving money. Spare cash is easier to find now:)

 

Paul, what is snuff? I'm sorry, I just haven't heard of it before?

 

Conniff, as always you are right:D and my house is now cleaner! infact, I'm running out of bits to clean:)

 

Trilby, I was going to ask about Zyban as I've seen it mentioned quite alot but I wasn't sure what it was, so thank you for the post, you've saved me from asking:)

 

Thanks everyone,

all scales tipped for all your help and support (Don't stop yet though:eek:)

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Fredrickson - No cca yet - Now in default of my request - now stopped contact with me:rolleyes: **UPDATE** April - Sent back £1 p/o and gave up!!!!!!!!!!

 

1ST Credit - CCA request sent - now stopped contact with me

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I was going to ask about Zyban as I've seen it mentioned quite alot but I wasn't sure what it was, so thank you for the post, you've saved me from asking

 

I did Zyban and NRT before I found out about 'Champix' (other wise known as 'dog food'). Zyban had a bad effect on me, bad dreams, turned me nasty, (thats just not me) Champix is an expensive drug, but has little in the way of side effects, If you want to give it a go, you may have to tell the powers that be you have tried everything else.

 

I don't agree with NRT, I know it's the NHS favorite method, but to me it's like telling an alcoholic he can't have his Vodka, so drink some Gin until you get used to the idea. :D

 

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Just reading Davids post reminds me of many years ago when our son was around 6 or 7. They must have been talking about smoking in school because he came home one day and said "If you and mum stopped smoking, we could buy a caravan".

Nice to see the school put it into an object that the kids could relate to.

He, by the way, has never smoked, so early learning can make a difference.

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I am also using the 'dog food' method ..... in my case I have tried everything apart from Zyban (Lex my NHS support seems to favour the dog food over the NRT) Will power alone has never worked for me , patches what can I say apart from the fact that I ended up smoking while wearing the patches :oops:, Hypnotherapy was the the one that worked longest for me 12 months nicotine free (that was 14yrs ago ) I tried the Inhalator when they first came out as well but that dosent break the 'hand to mouth' habit.

 

Champix seems to be working over 2 weeks nicotine free with minimal cravings I find having a coffee helps with that (that hand to mouth habit im sure ;-))

 

Keep up the good work and I'm sure that we will beat nicotine together :)

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There are two words that can be tied together here, craving and want.

 

You have to be honest with yourself, you have to 'want' to give up and not just 'like' to.

 

Big difference. There is no bigger liar than a smoker telling himself he wants to give up.

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I think most smokers want to give up – most just don’t know how to go about it though and that’s why NRT has gotten so big and I think the makers of NRT want you to believe it’s harder to quit than it actually is.

Keep going happyfeet – remember, 2 fingers to the lips and you’re actually telling the cigarette to Foxtrot Oscar.

Before you know it the nasty smell of cigarettes will put you off for good – try smelling the breath of a smoker who has just finished a cigarette – yak.

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Agree with all that atwozee, but it does ultimately come down to willpower. No amount of nocotine substitutes can helkp with the willpower, that is all up to you.

 

That's not a problem for happyfeet, we know she will do it. The want is definately there or she wouldn't have started this thread.

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Hi everyone,

 

Thank you again for your replies:)

 

I'm doing well so far. It's now become routine not to smoke, if that makes any sense. So whereas when I first quit the routine was to smoke in certain situations, now it's become routine not too.

 

My head feels clearer aswell.

 

The one thing I have really noticed is other peoples smoke. Just walking down the street I can smell the smoke well before I see the person doing it. I'd never realised it was that strong before:eek:

 

The cravings are so much easier to deal with now and if I do start to struggle then I go on the interent and remind myself of the damage it can do and consider myself lucky. I know it's not a very nice thing to be doing but now that I'm a non smoker:) I'm not hiding from the dangers of it now. So it's shock tactics that I'm using on myself, and they work very very well.

 

and of course everyones support here is a huge help!

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Just a warning message to everyone please be very careful with Champix and Zyban they do work for a lot of people but they can also caurse a lot of side effects including depression mood swings and even aggresssive behaviour towards people. I have first hand expeariance of Zyban as i worked for Glaxo when they made them and i used them, scary depression and i have never suffered from depression befor or since and i believe Champix can be even worse so please be careful with any thing that messes with the brain. That does not mean that there isnt help out there if you need it use it its a case of what ever works for you to get off the dreaded weed so dont suffer if you dont have to and good luck.

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Just a warning message to everyone please be very careful with Champix and Zyban they do work for a lot of people but they can also caurse a lot of side effects including depression mood swings and even aggresssive behaviour towards people. I have first hand expeariance of Zyban as i worked for Glaxo when they made them and i used them, scary depression and i have never suffered from depression befor or since and i believe Champix can be even worse so please be careful with any thing that messes with the brain. That does not mean that there isnt help out there if you need it use it its a case of what ever works for you to get off the dreaded weed so dont suffer if you dont have to and good luck.

 

No they damned well don't. :)

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I hope you took that as the joke it was intended to be. :)

 

I think the greatest part is being honest with yourself and really wanting to give up.

If you don't really 'want' to give up but are doing it for health or financial reasons, or just because not smoking is the in thing, it will be a lot harder.

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