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Ok im not confused just jittery, can someone please clarify when i put in n2444, the last time i went to take into court, they said not to put it in until i had recieved the eviction order, as it was a possession order and not repossession order, im not panicking here just want to get it right, ta muchley :)

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Hi Kenny soz just spotted your post after i posted, yes i can scan the n2444 and put it here, yes i have been making payments, 2 tics and i will upload it :) back again is it just part c you want.

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...Any chance we can see the N244 you are going to submit, please?
I'm sure that it may also help other peeps who are/will face similar difficulties that U are currently facing at the moment Bill.

 

 

 

 

...Has anything been paid towards the mortgage since the possesion order?
It would certainly help peeps see/understand the depth of the arrears payment history Bill.

...A sugestion of the last 12months Mortgage Statements would suffice methinks.

This would enable peeps to be able to give U more specific/correct advice...;)

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Tilly

 

I know you can't post the mortgage statements just now but can you tell us what you have paid since 01 April - rough amounts will be good enough compared to the full monthly mortgage sum.

 

Can you realistically afford the £500 monthly, and will you be back at work by the time that is due?

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Patience is a virtue KTC.

...I'm sure Bill will be able to Post 12months worth of Mortgage Statements soon enough.

 

This would enable peeps to advise on the BIGGER picture, both before + after her hubby's unfortunate accident.

It would also allow peeps to see by how much this has effected their financial predicament + how a Judge MAY also see it like that + be MORE sympathetic.

 

 

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Again MTM, quite correct.:)

 

Its not easy for someone when they are in this position.

 

It is great to see all of the support to Tilly from every single person posting on this thread and those who have read it, but haven't posted to allow Tilly to concentrate.

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Little sis takes no notice of big sis :rolleyes:

 

If you explain how serious it is, then I am sure she will be fine.

 

Tilly

 

I know you can't post the mortgage statements just now but can you tell us what you have paid since 01 April - rough amounts will be good enough compared to the full monthly mortgage sum.

 

Can you realistically afford the £500 monthly, and will you be back at work by the time that is due?

 

We do need these to see how effective the above defence is going to be.

 

Patience is a virtue KTC.

...I'm sure Bill will be able to Post 12months worth of Mortgage Statements soon enough.

 

This would enable peeps to advise on the BIGGER picture, both before + after her hubby's unfortunate accident.

It would also allow peeps to see by how much this has effected their financial predicament + how a Judge MAY also see it like that + be MORE sympathetic.

 

 

...:)

 

Tilly will need these, MTM, but in the interim with the possesion order having tomorrow's date being the time when ME can apply for the eviction order and baliffs, a rough estimate is good enough, so we can all see on the actions that have been taken since 01 April, if a stay/extension is likely to be granted, and other mitigating circumstances could be put in front of the judge.

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It is really good to see that you are now getting the advice that you needed Tills, I am only sorry that I was not able to help earlier, but I havent go a clue with problems like this, but if you need some-one to scream at or kick you know where to find me. Keep your chin up girl you have loads of good friends here all rooting for you. :-D:-D

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It is really good to see that you are now getting the advice that you needed Tills, I am only sorry that I was not able to help earlier, but I havent go a clue with problems like this, but if you need some-one to scream at or kick you know where to find me. Keep your chin up girl you have loads of good friends here all rooting for you. :-D:-D

 

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Tilly

 

I know you can't post the mortgage statements just now but can you tell us what you have paid since 01 April - rough amounts will be good enough compared to the full monthly mortgage sum.

 

3rd april 500.00

22nd april 200.00

30th april 150.00

3rd may 500.00

10th may 75.00

24th may 75.00 as far as i can remember without looking at bank statements.might be more or less

Can you realistically afford the £500 monthly, and will you be back at work by the time that is due?

 

I am back at work thursday kenny, yes i will be able to afford the £500.00

working my normal 35 hour week plus overtime and with a wage increase,

adding together tax credits child tax credits,

 

I am not sure when i will be able to put statements up, im offline at home until at least thursday, but will try and keep in touch on here one way or another, to let you all know what is happening, it might have to be via a fellow cagga who will post any info or news if there is any,

so for now peeps toodles, and thankyou to everyone :)

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Had a text from Tilly. She has no internet access, nothing has happened and the courts are all shut today. Looks like Tills is still playing a waiting game, at least until tomorrow.

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