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Hi All

 

Just a quick question, are sky agreements covered by any sort of Consumer Credit Agreements.

 

Reason being I missed 2 payments and they have set a DCA onto me already, I fully intend to pay at the end of this month, but will pay SKY not these muppets, especialy as they claimed to be from SKY when the called, which is why I went through the security questions before they pounced.

 

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Yep going to pay it just had more important things this month, was thinking of sending SKY a bill for rent for having their dish on the side of my house, seeing has how they are so quick to pass things on these days.

 

Going to get Freeview instead. I mean why pay when most decent things are on terrestrial anyway.

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just looked on the web, and it appears that Intrium J are based in Ireland and specialise in Irish debtors and branch out across the water occasionally.

 

Regardless I aint paying them a single Pound or Punt.

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Hi there,

 

Just thought I`d drop in on this one as we have recently sorted out a debt with Sky, this was after they released Wesclots onto us and we just totally blanked these knob jockeys.

 

Have a read of our thread to see how we got on - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/126282-wescot-credit-services-sky.html?highlight=sky+wescot

 

Don`t give in to these morons, just deal directly with Sky and Sky only. You`ll probably receive the usual trash mail from them, but who cares? You owe Sky not them.

 

Regards

 

 

N.P

 

 

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Hi NP, read your thread, loved it.

 

I have only had 2 calls from "Indegestion & Jaundice" so not too fussed at the moment, and like I said earlier SKY will get paid on the 20 this month so IJ can swivel.

 

Cheers

 

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Im not sure about IJ being based in Ireland the delightful call centre operative who phoned me were from Delhi not Londondelhi and had quite a poor grasp of the English language

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Received letter yesterday from Idiots and Jokers Ltd

 

Gave me a whole 48hours to respond or look out, "Scary"

 

Letter states this will be passed to our collections dept who will visit you, "Dont think so"

 

So nice little BogOff letter in post today. stating no permission no visit, also where is the permission from Sky for you to process my data, cause I certainly havent given it to you.

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afternoon all. this morning i received a letter from intrum justitia based in harlow,stating brittania music & film have passed administration of my account to them and i am supposed to contact them to arrange payments or £20 will be added to my account for admin charges. I do not beleive that these people nor Brittania have the right to contact me in anyway in regards to this account, reason being sine march 2007 i ahve had an administration order in place to cover all small debts of which brittania are one of, the amount being requested by intrum is the same amount on the order which i have been paying into county court since last year. i have an appointment with an advisor at citizens advice on monday morning about all my debts and will show them the letter. I personally will not be contacting intrum about this, they can try and file court papers if they wish, i will fill out any court papers sent and also ask for compensation for my trouble. If i write to them i will bill them £25 for my administration costs and see how they like it.:lol:

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This Year,britannia Music Club Went Into Administration,but We`ve Heared That Dca Intrum Justitia Has Been Contacting Old Customers To Call In Britannias Old Debt-debts The Intrum Justitia Can`t Explain And Many People Beleive They Don`t Owe

 

Like I Said Check Out The Watchdog Website There`s A Bit More On This Site Good Luck,, Hope This Helps

 

could you please give me the address at harlow STRAFORD CLOSED HAHA

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Paid Sky last night and they could not be more helpful, switched the box back on and we renegotiated a new package.

 

I just hope Idiots and Jokers Inc phone back demanding payment, :D

 

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i have just had a letter from these jokers myself , my wife brought some items from atlas editions then did not pay ( this i did not know ) she got a letter from them 2 weeks ago which she ignored , yesterday i got a letter from them with the outstanding debt transfered to my name , i do hope they take me to court it will be very interesting .

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afternoon all. this morning i received a letter from intrum justitia based in harlow,stating brittania music & film have passed administration of my account to them and i am supposed to contact them to arrange payments or £20 will be added to my account for admin charges.

 

 

Today my wife received a letter from IJ saying that because she had not replied to an earlier letter they have now added £20 to the account. :mad:

 

The fact is SHE DID reply in writing just over 3 weeks ago so you can guess how peeved she is now. She also included a financial statement showing that we could not really afford to pay too much in one go.

 

They have basically said in the letter that they have not heard any replies blah blah blah.

 

This is for a debt owed to Brittania but Im more than sure its more than six years old and we havent paid anything since then so could I argue saying that this debt is now statute barred?

 

My wife is also thinking of requesting CCA?

 

What would peoples advice be on this - especially the £20 charge :mad: . Surely ANY debt collector can say they have never had any replies and basically charge people whenever they wish???

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Today my wife received a letter from IJ saying that because she had not replied to an earlier letter they have now added £20 to the account. :mad:

 

The fact is SHE DID reply in writing just over 3 weeks ago so you can guess how peeved she is now. She also included a financial statement showing that we could not really afford to pay too much in one go.

 

They have basically said in the letter that they have not heard any replies blah blah blah.

 

This is for a debt owed to Brittania but Im more than sure its more than six years old and we havent paid anything since then so could I argue saying that this debt is now statute barred?

 

My wife is also thinking of requesting CCA?

 

What would peoples advice be on this - especially the £20 charge :mad: . Surely ANY debt collector can say they have never had any replies and basically charge people whenever they wish???

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

How are you doing? you really need to start your own thread with this.

 

In the meant time, throw this at the knob jockeys and see what they come back with. Don`t worry about the charges, everyone knows they are unlawful and therefore unenforceable anyway.

 

 

 

Dear Morons,

 

You have contacted me regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by myself.

 

I would point out that I have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to, or have even heard of BoxClever.

 

I am familiar with the Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance which states that it is unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question.

 

I would also point out that the Office of Fair Trading say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods.

 

Furthermore ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment.

 

I would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above account unless you can provide evidence as to my liability for the debt in question, for example, the last bill you have at our address.

 

I await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the Trading Standards department and consider informing the Office of Fair Trading of your phishing actions.

 

I look forward to your reply.

 

Yours faithfully

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Im not sure about IJ being based in Ireland the delightful call centre operative who phoned me were from Delhi not Londondelhi and had quite a poor grasp of the English language
LONDONDELHI...:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

made me laugh my tea down my nose :shock:

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