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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
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I've recently noticed an upsuge of dodgy looking mailings offering to lend me money (ALL SOUNDLY BINNED), makes me wonder where they got my address?

Zazen, have you applied for a credit report from any of the credit reference agencies recently? CRAs, like Experian, Equifax or CallCredit?

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

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No great surprise to most of us but BBC NEWS | UK | Banks 'prey on customers in debt' at least it's getting some publicity.

 

Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere.

Publicity's good. :)

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'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

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Zazen - this is a very long thread, but many people have found they get the kind of 'offer' letters you've had, after asking for a copy of their credit report:

CAG CRA S.A.R Club

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

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Am trying to write Christmas Cards and catch up with friends and relatives, but I'm nearly bursting with anger! If we can all get through this festive season more or less intact, then next year will be the year when this country changes!! For the better, I hope!

We will not be intimidated.

'The pen is mightier than the sword'.

Petition to Outlaw Debt Sale and Purchase

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VIVA CAG!!! :)

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I'm truly gobsmacked.

 

I wouldn't have believed such a thing was possible, in what is essentially the foundation of modern 'democracy'. :rolleyes:

 

So...it can happen to anyone.

 

Does anyone else remember when you had the choice of where your wages/salary were paid?? It wasn't unusual to get paid cash weekly or monthly, in your own hand, and completely under your own control.

 

....

 

Is it true you can only get benefits now, if it is paid through the account of a privately owned bank???

 

 

Can anyone else spot the problem???

 

 

How much longer will this continue before enough people decide to actively protect their own interests??

HOIST BY THEIR OWN PETARD.

 

Blimey it works....:-)

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I signed up for Credit Expert, now I get E-Mails from THEM offering to broker me a christmas loan! Now surely that must be a conflict of interests.

At the moment more people are beng turned down for loans, credit cards and mortgages. Seems sensible in current debt circumstances but the banks aren't earning. This means that a lot of loan salespeople and their managers are not getting commission. But you can bet your bottom dollar (maybe not in the present fiancial climate!) that the sales force targets have not decreased, they have probably been increased. So, harangue as many people as possible into applying for debt so that as much can be thrown against the wall as possible and some (the copper bottomed and platinum lined cases) might stick!!

It's now purely about massively increasing application numbers which means harder sales techniques.

 

Newborn

Beaten:

RBS: £4,500

AMEX: £4,200

Barclaycard Visa: £12,100

Barclaycard M/Card: £12,600

(Including the numerous DCAs they have set on me.)

PPI reclaims (into my bank account): £25,000

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I signed up for Credit Expert, now I get E-Mails from THEM offering to broker me a christmas loan! Now surely that must be a conflict of interests.

At the moment more people are beng turned down for loans, credit cards and mortgages. Seems sensible in current debt circumstances but the banks aren't earning. This means that a lot of loan salespeople and their managers are not getting commission. But you can bet your bottom dollar (maybe not in the present fiancial climate!) that the sales force targets have not decreased, they have probably been increased. So, harangue as many people as possible into applying for debt so that as much can be thrown against the wall as possible and some (the copper bottomed and platinum lined cases) might stick!!

It's now purely about massively increasing application numbers which means harder sales techniques.

 

Newborn

Newborn, you're getting emails from Credit Expert - from Experian that is, offering to broker a loan?:o

We will not be intimidated.

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DannyBoy, here's the Shelter Benefits page:

Shelter: Benefits

I think you're right. Banks rule - and they shouldn't. They've got ****all scruples, ****all compassion, ***all humanity, ***all anything decent TBH. It might just be that the 'Credit Crunch' we're watching will leave them thoroughly exposed. I really hope so.

The connections between Banks, DCAs, CRAs are all there.

We will not be intimidated.

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my daughter last week went to the bank because she is a student and her money was a fortnight late in getting into the bank she asked could they tide her over for two weeks,,THEY REFUSED instaead they told her to use her credit card ? i was so angry and could nt bite my lip any longer and sadly i stooped to ef and bs on the phone to some moron in the bank,,lucky for me i did not reveal my name or daughters,but ti was the thought of forcing her into a debt crisis..anyway she got funds from us and did nt need to use her card..the reason she does not want to use her card is she knows that it is so easy to slip up with a card hence the reason she never uses on and if she does she pays within days of using it...ggggrrr i really hate banks

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The only other way to get state benefits is to be paid into a Post Office card account. I'm not sure of the way they pay homeless people, but when I worked for the then DHSS in 1987-1989, they had to collect weekly giros from their local office.

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The only other way to get state benefits is to be paid into a Post Office card account. I'm not sure of the way they pay homeless people, but when I worked for the then DHSS in 1987-1989, they had to collect weekly giros from their local office.

 

Indeed, you would need to get a standard letter from the job centre which you then take to the post office who open the account for you, this account can only be used to receive benefits afaik, things seem to have changed as they dont like issuing giros now a days and insist on funds going directly into an account

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Yes! I did get an E-Mail from Credit Exper (Experian) offering to broker me a loan etc. I've had to reduce the content to less than 6 images as the full e-mail won't fit in the forum. The gist you can get from this:

 

 

LOANS, CREDIT CARDS, SHOPPING, MORTGAGES, ENERGY

 

• Receive a quick, easy and impartial service which helps you compare hundreds of loans.

 

• Get a free quote from an impartial broker, with no hassle or obligation.

 

• Cover your Christmas expenses in a way that suits you.

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Compare a range of companies

 

• 0% balance transfers

 

• Poor Credit History

 

• Platinum Cards

 

What about the Presents you need to buy for Christmas?

 

With CreditExpert Marketplace you can also compare your Christmas present prices online, on anything from jewellery and toys to electrical goods and video games. Marketplace shopping can help you with gift ideas and then find the best price for you.

 

Let CreditExpert help you with those difficult Christmas financial decisions.

 

Many thanks

 

CreditExpert

I Must say that I find this a profoundly disturbing development. Comments?

Newborn

Beaten:

RBS: £4,500

AMEX: £4,200

Barclaycard Visa: £12,100

Barclaycard M/Card: £12,600

(Including the numerous DCAs they have set on me.)

PPI reclaims (into my bank account): £25,000

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Thats a definite conflict of interests, offering a loan, offering help with purchasing and offering credit checking too.... I'd put a report to the Advertising Standards people about this.

 

I've been getting ads for loan brokers in the UK via USA based companies via email, now why would a UK company go to the USA to tout for business? Doesn't make sense unless they are covering something up......

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