Honestly I had no idea these companies could now just take pictures of your car and charge you, if anyone could help I would really appreciate it, if you need any other information please do let me know.

I found the seven questions I was asked to answer below, honestly I have no idea why there would be a limit in a service station in the middle of no where. I wasn't actually driving the car although I guess they don't care.

1 Date of the infringement 19.09.2018

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 25.09.2018

3 Date received 28.09.2018

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] Yes

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal]

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

No I have not appealed

7 Who is the parking company? ParkingEye

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Euro Garages Deeside Service Station

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

THe BPA

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here No

ANPR I take it in/out pix on the NTK?

Yes 20 mins overstay.

post up the NTK to PDF please

read upload

what was the max time and how long did you stay?

2 hours, stay was for 2 hours 20 mins. It wasn’t me driving the car.

theres only on other thread here and that not been updated...

I would 'suggest' that the ORG planning permission by the council stipulated a minimum of 3hrs free parking as with a lot of sites

pop off to the council planning section of there website and see if you can find it.

I would also suggest going by that old thread

their signs are not upto scratch..

Sorry for the delay in getting back I thought I had posted but can’t see it here. I have been on flint council planning but can’t seem to see anything about parking times anywhere. Am I missing a section?

have you found the original planning consent for the land in question?

I searched for the postcode on the Flintshire website and lots of different ones came up, I looked through them all but couldn’t find anything to do with parking.

what is it you are supposed to have done wrong to attract such a charge? What was the purpose of your visit?

Can you remember what franchised petrol company t was, ie Esso, etc? That may well give you a method of knocking this on the head without approaching the parking co.

A meeting in Starbucks

I went there today to check it out and the signs are not very clear I dont think but in the toilet of the starbucks there is a notice saying you need to give them your reg if you want to stay longer or they cant help.

I remember there was a Spar, burger king and a gregs as well

there is asnother thread on this site, have a look at it and let us know the similarities and differences.

Also we need more detail, like how long was your meeting in starbucks and was this anything other than social.

The meeting would technically be held as a business conversation. If you list any questions you would like answering I would come straight back to you. Getting worried about this one now lol

EB also asked how long you were in Starbucks, audia.

Have you read the other thread?

HB

so how long were you there? Was it an official meeting and did starbucks sanction it?

How do you mean did starbucks sanction it? They let you buy coffee the whole time you are there and no one warns you about the 2 hours, the meeting would be classed as a business meeting if it had to have a tag on it.

Massively sorry for the late reply I have been away sso just back today.

audi, we still don't know how long you were there, we've already asked 3 times. Please answer all the questions put to you or we can't move this forward.

HB

well, if you arent going to help yourself much ask your bosses to pay up as it was on business.

If you want help we need to know how long you were there and whether Starbucks told you that you could hold a meeting there as thuis makes a great difference to your rights. If it want an official business meeting ordered by your company and sanctioned by Starbucks then you are just someone drinking coffee and we will address things accordingly but the first scenario makes our job much simpler to get this killed.

Sorry all I thought I had answered earlier the stay was for 2 hours and 20 mins, I was asked to check if there was anything in the planning permission to see a 3 hour minimum or the ANPR camera permissions but although I found the planning on the flintshire website I couldn't locate those specifics.

I saw a client there however the conversation was more of a catch up than business and we have grown to be friends hence I dont know how to classify it as it was mostly a catch up. Starbucks was not informed I was meeting anyone we just drank some of their coffee and left afterwards.

I'm not trying to be unhelpful and I massively appreciate all the help you are all trying to give me, I really do!

Right, so no authority from Starbucks that overrides the offer of a contract by the parking bandits. No instruction form your company to meet a client at this place

You must respiond with simple truths, if it does get as far as court and you give soem vague and incomplete response all of your other evidence will be deisounted as being unrliable regardless of how good it is.

Now for planning, you phone up the planning dept and ask them if PE have applied for planning permission for their equipment and separate to that ask if theire were conditions placed in the original planning consent for regulation of parking. PE's involvement will be recent compared to the building fo the place.

Dont be fobbed off, junior staff in the office wont know much about the law on signage ect and will say almost anything to get rid of you without bothering their seniors. Be clear as to what you wnat to know and come back here when you have spoken to them so we can rephrase things if necessary. If they cnat find a permission then it doesnt exist and that is good enough.

So I have called on 3 occasions, Im pretty sure twice they had no idea what I was going on about but all times I have been told there is nothing for restricted parking nor anything for equipment.

please refrain from making the thread twice as long by keep hitting reply with quote

just type!!

numerous unnecessary quotes now removed

then there is no planning permission . You cant prove the non existence of somehting so take them at thier word, the parking co doesnt have PP, end of.

So I have called on 3 occasions, Im pretty sure twice they had no idea what I was going on about but all times I have been told there is nothing for restricted parking nor anything for equipment.

Excellent, so do I just follow the appeal process and say I cant find evidence of PP? Sorry for all the questions just not a clue when it comes to this sort of thing